Post: #26

(09-18-2018 08:09 AM)darlten Wrote:  So from your experience from what you've seen girls do, fucked them or just heard them talking what size do girls really prefer. Also would you ever consider getting penis enhancement?

When it comes to women talking about dick size you need to understand three things:

1. they're terrible at estimating sizes
2. they lie. a lot.
3. they're swayed by feels

So with the above in mind, know that you can bang more chicks with an average dick than with a monster cock. There is a point where it's too big to use and if you like Asian women, forget about doing doggy style balls deep if you're above average.

As for the treatment, don't be silly. They will cut the ligament at your pelvic bone that holds the inner part of the dick inside your body. That's all it is.

You can get your cock bigger naturally and safely without operations for a fraction of the cost, except it will take a few to several years using standard dick training techniques and a few tools. Don't expect a 3 inch increase... but half to 1 inch is doable for the average guy who is *dedicated*.

Post: #27

Chicks would probably like you to get a tongue extension more.

Post: #28

If you can't satisfy a woman you can always become a bottom faggot. I think it's the best bet for a micropenis type to get action.

Post: #29

Cool advertising.
OP will spend the money he'll make from that link on trannies. 69 for the win.

If increasing penis size were possible, all men would have 15-inch dicks.

Post: #30

Sorry guys,

We all know I'm the winner of biggest dick here. Here is my my measurement with the official RVF dick measuring tool.

Post: #31

My info on penis enlargement here.

In penis lengthening I believe there is only one method that produces a longer erect penis and I wish I'd never seen photos of it. It involves taking apart all the components of the penis, using different techniques to lengthen them and then putting it all back together again. The success rate is low.

There are permanent and temporary girth enhancements. The permanent one has the potential to make your dick rot.

It's best to stay away from all this.

I think penis enlargement excercises can work, but the main reason people may have success with them is they improve errection quality, which is worth 1-3cm for many guys.

Beyond that it appears it takes serious investment doing the right technique in the right way for your physiology. If it were easy there would be evidence all over the internet.

As noted what women say about size is as much rubbish as what guys say about their size. There are about as many women who can take a genuine 7.5 inch penis without issues as are men with them, 1% of Europeans. Any women gossiping about a 9 incher would be hobbling about doing so. She's probably referring to an actual 7.5 incher.

There's a good site but I can't find the link, of a woman holding up various lengths and sizes of cardboard tubs up against her naked body. This puts in perspective how ridiculous various claims and gossip is. 9 inches is full on bowel tapping.

Post: #32

Wow..

Only $13,000??

Where have I been?

OP is my new friend. Screw the rest of you guys.

Post: #33

This is actually quite a thing. There's another guy named Dr. Elist in Beverly Hills who does the same type of implant. He also charges $13,000

He even does testicle enlargement to have bigger balls.

https://www.drelist.com/penile-enlargement-surgery/

Post: #34

To be transparent, I've been told I have a big dick, and I've had more complaints (and repeat lays) than not.
Only sluts, thots, slags, and hood rats can "take dick".
I guess I could practice not trying to gut them, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my pleasure for a bang; that's wife type shit.

The main problem is thinking about other guys' dicks at all. If they're not helping you fuck her, then give no fuck.

Sluts will fuck regardless, and if you get it bUT can't get a repeat, move on.

Or drop 13k (!!!!) on cosmetic dick surgery that may or may not matter.

Post: #35

Some of the mental hangs and gymnastics on this thread....and I thought females had huge hamsters.

Post: #36

(09-19-2018 06:05 AM)realologist Wrote:  Sorry guys,

We all know I'm the winner of biggest dick here. Here is my my measurement with the official RVF dick measuring tool.

Here it is...unless this is used as a comparison system you're all liars.

Some guys really replied seriously here but we all know this is an ad thread to get some clicks or maybe feeding the hope someone takes the bait and drops 13k

Post: #37

(09-19-2018 10:40 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Some of the mental hangs and gymnastics on this thread....and I thought females had huge hamsters.

What's really sad here is that some men seem to think their measure as a man, is taken in inches.

Post: #38

If you're really considering such a risky procedure, you should think long and hard before taking the plunge.

Post: #39

(09-19-2018 03:11 PM)Horus Wrote:  If you're really considering such a risky procedure, you should think long and hard before taking the plunge.

What kind of flaccid attitude is that?

Post: #40

(09-19-2018 03:14 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:11 PM)Horus Wrote:  If you're really considering such a risky procedure, you should think long and hard before taking the plunge.

What kind of flaccid attitude is that?

You've got some spunk haven't you? I'm just concerned that if you spend $13000 on this procedure, you might feel shafted if girls are able to tell the deferens. If the surgeon is really able to pull it off then I'm all for it, but it sounds like a cockamamie idea to be honest. It's not something I wood risk. My advice for anyone already signed up for this surgery to pull out before it's too late.

Post: #41

(09-19-2018 03:56 PM)Horus Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:14 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:11 PM)Horus Wrote:  If you're really considering such a risky procedure, you should think long and hard before taking the plunge.

What kind of flaccid attitude is that?

You've got some spunk haven't you? I'm just concerned that if you spend $13000 on this procedure, you might feel shafted if girls are able to tell the deferens. If the surgeon is really able to pull it off then I'm all for it, but it sounds like a cockamamie idea to be honest. It's not something I wood risk. My advice for anyone already signed up for this surgery to pull out before it's too late.

It's time to quit dicking around and have someone just take a stab at it. No more mental masturbation.

Post: #42

I settled this two years ago.

(12-09-2016 02:45 AM)wi30 Wrote:  Ha I voted in the average range (though Suits said I was small compared to his humble and flaccid 9 inches).

But lately I've tried joking with girls before banging them about me having a huge dick. The 2 girls I tried it with both continued thinking I had a big dick after having sex a handful of times.

My non-exhaustive, non-scientific, completely biased research shows that:

1. Women are dumb.
2. Women think your dick is huge if you make them cum.
3. Women think your dick is huge if they really like you.
4. Women suck at taking measurements.

In conclusion: Game makes you have a big swinging dick.

20 year old Canadian Prairie Troll strikes again in wasting 5 minutes of my time.

Post: #43

This seems like a major troll post, but since OP is supposedly my Prairie brother, I'm going to treat it as a genuine question.

On Penis Size

Unlike respondent-dependent questionnaires, we actually have fairly good data on penis size averages. This information is really only useful to determine if you fall within a "normal" range, as there will always be severe outliers.

The probable best study on the matter was published in the British Journal of Urology. It was a meta-study examining the results of tests done on over 16,000 men. In all cases, the measurements were made in a clinical setting by health care professionals. And... they came up with an average length of 5 point something inches (erect) and just under 5 inches in girth. So, it sounds like OP is doing just fine.

On "Enhancement" Surgery

There have been surgeries of this type for years. Length enhancement has usually involved severing the suspensory ligament. Results varied and, trust me, you really don't want to do this.

Girth enhancements are even worse. Most involve injections. HLA injections are the safest but they are temporary and you cannot get huge gains. Fat transfer injections (once the gold standard) often leave a lumpy texture to the entire shaft. The more "exotic" injections like collagen and various polymers are straight-up dangerous and often only available through medical tourism.

The new type of enhancement you are either looking in to or shilling is a polymer sheet that is inserted under the skin, around the corpora cavernosa. This procedure is somewhat akin to the old enhancement surgery in which a flap transfer of fat (usually from the back of the leg) was wrapped around the penis. The only difference is your body is not going to absorb the polymer sheet.

But, now, the bad news... Your body can certainly reject a polymer implant. In fact, it happens all the time. Dr. James Elist in California has been putting these implants in for a while now. Anyone interested can google the "bad" results of the surgery.

As a side note, because someone mentioned it - Yes, you can have testicular enhancement. One, you can have a complete replacement enhancement. I don't know why you would willingly castrate yourself, but I guess if you had testicular cancer, it makes sense. FYI, the "neuticals" they put in were originally developed for show dogs. Two, you can have encapsulation enhancement. That is where they put a hollow shell around your testicle. The down side is it makes you functionally infertile (and it can lead to bad and painful side effects like hydrocele and testicular torsion).

A final thought on enhancements. Your penis is not your kidneys. You only have one (well, most guys only have one, but that's another story). If you do something to fuck it up, you are impotent - probably for life. And you are going to do this why? To impress some random pump and dump? Again, why?

On Girls and Penis Size

Out of the thousands of girls that I have interviewed about sex over the years, do you want to know how many brought up penis size? Very few.

Girls care up to a point. Younger girls seem to care more than older ones. And the previous posters are correct on several points. Women can't eyeball measure for shit. They often have no idea. And your size will depend on the girl's feelings towards you. Some asshole that's annoying them is packing a gherkin. That jock that alpha widowed them has a Hillshire Farm Summer Sausage in his pants.

This is only a concern in a specific circumstance, as far as I can see it.

Do you care if a random slut likes your size? You shouldn't, she's a pump and dump.

Do you care about other guys? If you do, you are probably on the wrong forum.

So, you should really only care about it in the context of an LTR. And, even then, only if she brings it up. If she says she is unsatisfied (very unlikely to happen), there can only be a few reasons. She is trying to get you to dump her. Or, she is a (former) carousel rider who truly has had and enjoyed some monster cocks. Or, she was one of those "lucky girls" who happened upon Mr. John Holmes in the guy(s) she previous slept with. Or, she is some sort of weird primordial size queen. If any of those concerns come up, I would leave the girl long before I let some doctor take a whack at my junk.

In Closing

If you are really concerned with "enhancement", get a low-traction stretching device and, maybe, a low-pressure water pump. All together that would cost you less than $500 and it actually has research to back it up. You won't become a porn star over night, but you might add an inch or two over a few years.

Did I put way too much thought in to this response? Yes. Yes, I did. This is what happens when academics retire.

Post: #44

(09-20-2018 02:10 AM)Tiger Man Wrote:  This seems like a major troll post, but since OP is supposedly my Prairie brother, I'm going to treat it as a genuine question.

On Penis Size

Unlike respondent-dependent questionnaires, we actually have fairly good data on penis size averages. This information is really only useful to determine if you fall within a "normal" range, as there will always be severe outliers.

The probable best study on the matter was published in the British Journal of Urology. It was a meta-study examining the results of tests done on over 16,000 men. In all cases, the measurements were made in a clinical setting by health care professionals. And... they came up with an average length of 5 point something inches (erect) and just under 5 inches in girth. So, it sounds like OP is doing just fine.

On "Enhancement" Surgery

There have been surgeries of this type for years. Length enhancement has usually involved severing the suspensory ligament. Results varied and, trust me, you really don't want to do this.

Girth enhancements are even worse. Most involve injections. HLA injections are the safest but they are temporary and you cannot get huge gains. Fat transfer injections (once the gold standard) often leave a lumpy texture to the entire shaft. The more "exotic" injections like collagen and various polymers are straight-up dangerous and often only available through medical tourism.

The new type of enhancement you are either looking in to or shilling is a polymer sheet that is inserted under the skin, around the corpora cavernosa. This procedure is somewhat akin to the old enhancement surgery in which a flap transfer of fat (usually from the back of the leg) was wrapped around the penis. The only difference is your body is not going to absorb the polymer sheet.

But, now, the bad news... Your body can certainly reject a polymer implant. In fact, it happens all the time. Dr. James Elist in California has been putting these implants in for a while now. Anyone interested can google the "bad" results of the surgery.

As a side note, because someone mentioned it - Yes, you can have testicular enhancement. One, you can have a complete replacement enhancement. I don't know why you would willingly castrate yourself, but I guess if you had testicular cancer, it makes sense. FYI, the "neuticals" they put in were originally developed for show dogs. Two, you can have encapsulation enhancement. That is where they put a hollow shell around your testicle. The down side is it makes you functionally infertile (and it can lead to bad and painful side effects like hydrocele and testicular torsion).

A final thought on enhancements. Your penis is not your kidneys. You only have one (well, most guys only have one, but that's another story). If you do something to fuck it up, you are impotent - probably for life. And you are going to do this why? To impress some random pump and dump? Again, why?

On Girls and Penis Size

Out of the thousands of girls that I have interviewed about sex over the years, do you want to know how many brought up penis size? Very few.

Girls care up to a point. Younger girls seem to care more than older ones. And the previous posters are correct on several points. Women can't eyeball measure for shit. They often have no idea. And your size will depend on the girl's feelings towards you. Some asshole that's annoying them is packing a gherkin. That jock that alpha widowed them has a Hillshire Farm Summer Sausage in his pants.

This is only a concern in a specific circumstance, as far as I can see it.

Do you care if a random slut likes your size? You shouldn't, she's a pump and dump.

Do you care about other guys? If you do, you are probably on the wrong forum.

So, you should really only care about it in the context of an LTR. And, even then, only if she brings it up. If she says she is unsatisfied (very unlikely to happen), there can only be a few reasons. She is trying to get you to dump her. Or, she is a (former) carousel rider who truly has had and enjoyed some monster cocks. Or, she was one of those "lucky girls" who happened upon Mr. John Holmes in the guy(s) she previous slept with. Or, she is some sort of weird primordial size queen. If any of those concerns come up, I would leave the girl long before I let some doctor take a whack at my junk.

In Closing

If you are really concerned with "enhancement", get a low-traction stretching device and, maybe, a low-pressure water pump. All together that would cost you less than $500 and it actually has research to back it up. You won't become a porn star over night, but you might add an inch or two over a few years.

Did I put way too much thought in to this response? Yes. Yes, I did. This is what happens when academics retire.

One issue with the meta-study you mentioned is that it includes a lot of different races in the data sets, including various Asian countries/peoples. One might wonder if that contributed to a lower global average than what would be normal for European men.

As an analogy, the global average for adult male stature is something like 175 cm, if I remember correctly. But for many Euro countries like Denmark and Holland it`s more like 180-182. (Measured usually on military recruits.) Obviously I don`t know if there really is a difference in penis size varying between racial groups, but there is good reasons (including studies) to think there is. Although it might not be huge differences, even a few centimetres matters a lot when we`re talking about averages.

Post: #45

(09-20-2018 01:08 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  One issue with the meta-study you mentioned is that it includes a lot of different races in the data sets, including various Asian countries/peoples. One might wonder if that contributed to a lower global average than what would be normal for European men.

As an analogy, the global average for adult male stature is something like 175 cm, if I remember correctly. But for many Euro countries like Denmark and Holland it`s more like 180-182. (Measured usually on military recruits.) Obviously I don`t know if there really is a difference in penis size varying between racial groups, but there is good reasons (including studies) to think there is. Although it might not be huge differences, even a few centimetres matters a lot when we`re talking about averages.

This is true and is a minor issue. There are noted differences in penis size between ethnic groups. This is most apparent in measurements of ethnically homogeneous groups in different countries. On average, certain sub-Saharan African men rank well above the rest. On average, certain Northern Asian men rank well below the rest. But then the question becomes, what is well above or well below?

Length has far more variance than girth. But, even then, you can look at the standard deviation for all men or for specific ethnic/racial groups, and you still get a fairly tight range. In gework's linked post above, he has a table with percentiles and SD. That is a fairly good representation. Even if we were to break it down by ethnicity/race, the best data indicate that you would only be sliding the entire range up or down by <5 cms.

There also appears to be a correlation between height or general body size and penis size. It is one of the only signature correlative points that has been confirmed (when it comes to penis size). So genetics play a part, but so do things like environment and nutrition.

If I was OP or anyone else concerned with my "size", I would first be concerned with girth. It is very unlikely a guy would be seriously deficient in the girth department due to the low variance. If that was actually an issue, it may be time to visit a urologist (there are some hormonal treatnments, depending on age and other factors). Length is, honestly, less important. And, merely due to the nature of numbers, most men will fall well within a "normal range". Again, there are safer and more effective ways to modify penis metrics, but it can take a while. And, one has to decide if it is worth it. Based on what you have said and what I have said, this may be worth it for some men. If you are median average and you manage to add 1.5 in in length, you put yourself in to a rarer category, indeed. If that is of major importance to the individual guy, he may be able to justify wearing an extender for several hours a day for a year or two. But, I think a lot of guys will decide it isn't worth it.

Post: #46

(09-20-2018 01:35 PM)Tiger Man Wrote:  

(09-20-2018 01:08 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  One issue with the meta-study you mentioned is that it includes a lot of different races in the data sets, including various Asian countries/peoples. One might wonder if that contributed to a lower global average than what would be normal for European men.

As an analogy, the global average for adult male stature is something like 175 cm, if I remember correctly. But for many Euro countries like Denmark and Holland it`s more like 180-182. (Measured usually on military recruits.) Obviously I don`t know if there really is a difference in penis size varying between racial groups, but there is good reasons (including studies) to think there is. Although it might not be huge differences, even a few centimetres matters a lot when we`re talking about averages.

This is true and is a minor issue. There are noted differences in penis size between ethnic groups. This is most apparent in measurements of ethnically homogeneous groups in different countries. On average, certain sub-Saharan African men rank well above the rest. On average, certain Northern Asian men rank well below the rest. But then the question becomes, what is well above or well below?

Length has far more variance than girth. But, even then, you can look at the standard deviation for all men or for specific ethnic/racial groups, and you still get a fairly tight range. In gework's linked post above, he has a table with percentiles and SD. That is a fairly good representation. Even if we were to break it down by ethnicity/race, the best data indicate that you would only be sliding the entire range up or down by <5 cms.

There also appears to be a correlation between height or general body size and penis size. It is one of the only signature correlative points that has been confirmed (when it comes to penis size). So genetics play a part, but so do things like environment and nutrition.

If I was OP or anyone else concerned with my "size", I would first be concerned with girth. It is very unlikely a guy would be seriously deficient in the girth department due to the low variance. If that was actually an issue, it may be time to visit a urologist (there are some hormonal treatnments, depending on age and other factors). Length is, honestly, less important. And, merely due to the nature of numbers, most men will fall well within a "normal range". Again, there are safer and more effective ways to modify penis metrics, but it can take a while. And, one has to decide if it is worth it. Based on what you have said and what I have said, this may be worth it for some men. If you are median average and you manage to add 1.5 in in length, you put yourself in to a rarer category, indeed. If that is of major importance to the individual guy, he may be able to justify wearing an extender for several hours a day for a year or two. But, I think a lot of guys will decide it isn't worth it.

Well, 5 cm`s is a lot though. If you have a 10 cm erect penis you have problem! 15 and you`re fine. (I guess) I just think that urologist etc. are focusing on putting men at ease, rather than seeking objective truth here. Probably the Euro average is somewhat bigger in both length and girth than that study suggest. Also it didn`t include much data from African countries, so the Asian data included might just give a false impression/misrepresent the true Euro average.

Post: #47

I love this forum. You will always find a thread that will make you laugh

Post: #48

In light of Tiger Man's excellent musings on this subject, I feel this may come across as trite, however does OP groom properly? That can make a difference in the appearance, and since women get their impression based off emotions, a particularly well groomed schlong may get them excited and they may then feel that you have good enough size.

In my not so frequent past sexcapades, I can say that several times during the act women have decided to make some sort of statement about my member. In basically all of those cases (minus the Asian chicks) I believe they were just saying that to get my confidence up even higher and get me more motivated during the act. Dare I say - it works. However, I am under no illusions that they were just emotionally manipulating me. Positively, but still.

Remember, if women are actually telling you or behaving as if your member size is an issue, they are almost definitely emotionally manipulating you, only negatively. As Tiger Man put so deftly, that is not worth your time or stress.

Finally, there's all kinds of sex toys out there you can include into your repotiore to supplement whatever you are doing. But put all this stress and angst into just being a better player overall, a more confident person overall, and it will be much better overall.

Post: #49

(09-20-2018 02:12 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(09-20-2018 01:35 PM)Tiger Man Wrote:  

(09-20-2018 01:08 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  One issue with the meta-study you mentioned is that it includes a lot of different races in the data sets, including various Asian countries/peoples. One might wonder if that contributed to a lower global average than what would be normal for European men.

As an analogy, the global average for adult male stature is something like 175 cm, if I remember correctly. But for many Euro countries like Denmark and Holland it`s more like 180-182. (Measured usually on military recruits.) Obviously I don`t know if there really is a difference in penis size varying between racial groups, but there is good reasons (including studies) to think there is. Although it might not be huge differences, even a few centimetres matters a lot when we`re talking about averages.

This is true and is a minor issue. There are noted differences in penis size between ethnic groups. This is most apparent in measurements of ethnically homogeneous groups in different countries. On average, certain sub-Saharan African men rank well above the rest. On average, certain Northern Asian men rank well below the rest. But then the question becomes, what is well above or well below?

Length has far more variance than girth. But, even then, you can look at the standard deviation for all men or for specific ethnic/racial groups, and you still get a fairly tight range. In gework's linked post above, he has a table with percentiles and SD. That is a fairly good representation. Even if we were to break it down by ethnicity/race, the best data indicate that you would only be sliding the entire range up or down by <5 cms.

There also appears to be a correlation between height or general body size and penis size. It is one of the only signature correlative points that has been confirmed (when it comes to penis size). So genetics play a part, but so do things like environment and nutrition.

If I was OP or anyone else concerned with my "size", I would first be concerned with girth. It is very unlikely a guy would be seriously deficient in the girth department due to the low variance. If that was actually an issue, it may be time to visit a urologist (there are some hormonal treatnments, depending on age and other factors). Length is, honestly, less important. And, merely due to the nature of numbers, most men will fall well within a "normal range". Again, there are safer and more effective ways to modify penis metrics, but it can take a while. And, one has to decide if it is worth it. Based on what you have said and what I have said, this may be worth it for some men. If you are median average and you manage to add 1.5 in in length, you put yourself in to a rarer category, indeed. If that is of major importance to the individual guy, he may be able to justify wearing an extender for several hours a day for a year or two. But, I think a lot of guys will decide it isn't worth it.

Well, 5 cm`s is a lot though. If you have a 10 cm erect penis you have problem! 15 and you`re fine. (I guess) I just think that urologist etc. are focusing on putting men at ease, rather than seeking objective truth here. Probably the Euro average is somewhat bigger in both length and girth than that study suggest. Also it didn't include much data from African countries, so the Asian data included might just give a false impression/misrepresent the true Euro average.

I see what you are saying about 10 vs. 15 cm. However, I was referring to the whole distribution. So (and I am making an informed guess here) the difference between certain European men and certain African men might be 2 cm at the median. That is less than an inch, and the SD1 ranges would overlap by quite a bit. I say some because there is variance within both European and African communities.

I also take your point about urologists wishing to be reassuring, and I agree with it for the most part. I did rotations with the urology department of a teaching hospital when I was starting out and I felt there was an over-diagnosis of BDD in men presenting with concerns over their penis size. A guy with a four inch penis, while not clinically a case of micropenis, might have real and significant concerns. And, he might benefit from the actual (and scientifically-based) interventions that are available to men on the short end of the scale.

Aside from differences in size, perceptions about penis size vary by race/culture/ethnicity. Germany, for example, leads European nations in penis enhancement surgeries. On the other hand, there are several Eastern European countries that have no available data on such surgeries being performed (indicating that if it done, it is very rare). It is unlikely that the men in, say, Georgia have penises so much larger than German men that the Germans require "enhancement" while the Georgians do not.

(09-20-2018 11:01 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  In light of Tiger Man's excellent musings on this subject, I feel this may come across as trite, however does OP groom properly? That can make a difference in the appearance, and since women get their impression based off emotions, a particularly well groomed schlong may get them excited and they may then feel that you have good enough size.

In my not so frequent past sexcapades, I can say that several times during the act women have decided to make some sort of statement about my member. In basically all of those cases (minus the Asian chicks) I believe they were just saying that to get my confidence up even higher and get me more motivated during the act. Dare I say - it works. However, I am under no illusions that they were just emotionally manipulating me. Positively, but still.

Remember, if women are actually telling you or behaving as if your member size is an issue, they are almost definitely emotionally manipulating you, only negatively. As Tiger Man put so deftly, that is not worth your time or stress.

Finally, there's all kinds of sex toys out there you can include into your repotiore to supplement whatever you are doing. But put all this stress and angst into just being a better player overall, a more confident person overall, and it will be much better overall.

I don't find your point trite. Considering differences in technique, arousal, entry velocity, etc., it is very difficult for a woman to give a specific measure of a penis that is inside her body. Most women are going to gauge what they think is a man's penis size based on viewing it. This would be one of the few occasions in which flaccid size actually matters (if you care about it). Grooming will assist here. As will the temperature in the room, to be honest.

It didn't occur to me to add it before, but thinking back to the urology rotations reminded me of something. Some men carry excess fat in the pubic area. This can happen in men that are skinny (fat) as well as the overweight. I would advise exercise, but that doesn't always work. Liposuction of the pubic area is one of the cheapest, safest, and most effective ways to "add" length to the penis. I have read of men that added over an inch of usable length via this method. If I was considering surgery, that would be my first thought.

It will also contribute to a larger appearance (again, if you care about it).

Post: #50

(09-21-2018 12:15 AM)Tiger Man Wrote:  Liposuction of the pubic area is one of the cheapest, safest, and most effective ways to "add" length to the penis. I have read of men that added over an inch of usable length via this method. If I was considering surgery, that would be my first thought.

It will also contribute to a larger appearance (again, if you care about it).

It'll definitely change the appearance. Although absolute, and repeatable length is measured bone pressed, you push the ruler against your pubic bone. Fat pad or not, it's all *mostly* usable length because it compresses to the bone.

By the way, if anyone wants to know what the real "average" looks like among American guys just check out Annabel Chong's gang bang video. Couple of black guys in there, bunch of white guys, no viagra and no camera tricks. It was filmed with randoms and before Viagra and dick training became common practice among porno actors.

Yes, stunt-cocks train because the techniques are now proven. I believe Mike Salvini basically wrote the book on it FOR the porn industry. A huge giveaway is some of the discoloration that's often visible... it's hemosiderin staining due to repeated bruising or over-pumping. (so just a warning for any noobs and lurkers not to overdo it when they find the holy grail of info that I've alluded to in this post)