Post: #126

(09-06-2018 09:54 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(09-06-2018 05:12 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Looks don't matter more than they used to. Girls are absolutely sluttier, they matter less. They crave experiences, newness, taboo sex, a FWB who's not clingy. I've literally never been asked for my IG. Hell, 'dad bods' are even a thing for girls now. Of course, being fitter is a generic advantage, sure, but lotsa girls are very suspicious of guys that are 'too good looking' or 'too fit,' figuring them to be narcissistic, or gay, just gonna fuck and run, treat them like shit, etc.

IMHO, restart texts worked as well as they ever did. If the girl wasn't interested in you before, she won't be now. Same as it ever was.

You know what matters more than ever? Confidence. In my top 5 traits girls are looking for that's #1, 2, and 4.

Pro tip: the hotter/younger the girl, the more she lacks confidence. Even if she puts up a bitch shield at first.

It would be fair to note for the thread that you (exclusively?) game on Seeking Arrangement. Changes the context of your opinion quite a bit.

Not even remotely. Other than jealousy I have no idea why you would say that because I've posted about plenty of pickups IRL.

In order of pickups:
Night Game
social + biz circle
Daygame
fetlife
tinder+snap+fb/ig
all dating websites combined. I've probably been on all of them for at least a trial period over the past 15 years. The last 3 have serious Venn overlap.

I don't bother posting a lot on a huge topic like bar/club game because it's all been said before and by people better than me at it. I have 25 years experience but nothing new to add other than if I know some good spots to post-up, and I generally refrain from giving those out to the gen pop.

The hottest girl I've ever banged was a simple daygame pickup which I've mentioned here couple years ago -- she was sitting on a NYC park bench, 6' redhead with stunning features, looking sad so I sat down next to her and started chatting, sure enough she was a runway model, but getting rejected all day.
I made her laugh, she turned out to be very smart, instadate for ice cream, and in a following date with a few glasses of champagne she came back to my place and fucked my brains out. We did the fwb off and on for a long while, she was also a world-class wing for obvious reasons.

It was the initial pickup I'd recommend to anyone whether in 2005, 1988 or 1967.

In the SA thread, you wrote:

Quote:Many of the girls I fuck completely forget which app they met me on. Once you have them in person it stops mattering.

I've been saying this for years and loudly to anyone who would listen. It doesn't matter what site or app you first msg on. It's the *same* girl, she's on 10 diff apps and 5 dating websites.

You also complained about your inability to get sorority girls. Is this why you're so negative on an advice thread to help guys actually get those exact girls?

Several people pointed out what you needed to work on and to avoid self-limiting beliefs. You've posted about getting flaked on 60-80% of the time, which just sounds absolutely shocking.

Post: #127

I have see a trend, not necessarily new. More and more girls having long term relationships with betas or femine like men. The women control all the interactions and environment. Every where I go in my city, I see men carrying their wife or gf handbags while following behind them(wife or gf). The man hand is full while the women have nothing in their hand but their phones. What has this world has come to

Post: #128

Did social media really make dating that much harder for average guys or is that just coping?

Post: #129

It inflated female ego which consequently made things worse for the average Joe.
I wouldn't give all the credit to social media tho.

I also noticed somewhat similar issues to Roswells comment. What baffles me more is that guys got no standards anymore. I see legit good looking dudes with 4s and 5s when they can easily pull 2-4 above those numbers.

As for being a beta mule, it's a lack of experience in relationship dynamics. Those guys are pretty much spineless and cede all the power to the females because they are too thirsty or are believing the BP lie. It starts with small things, and before they realize it they are already turned into a mule.

That aside

I've noticed a huge increase in success after I gave up on 3 dates rule. It's either on the first or I move on. Besides it's not like those chicks that wait before giving sex are better or more well put together than the rest of them.
A horse that managed to glue a horn on top of it's forehead is not a unicorn......

Post: #130

Yh. Even I observe a couple interacting behind me. The girl was very audible when talking but the bf wasn’t audible at all when he was talking. I assume he didn’t want to talk over her. We sure can tell who wear the pants. Just for further observation, the gf was very fat and ugly while the guy was decent looking. It is getting worse day by day

Post: #131

(10-14-2018 04:19 PM)Roswell87 Wrote:  I have see a trend, not necessarily new. More and more girls having long term relationships with betas or femine like men. The women control all the interactions and environment. Every where I go in my city, I see men carrying their wife or gf handbags while following behind them(wife or gf). The man hand is full while the women have nothing in their hand but their phones. What has this world has come to

Part of this is because of the changing financial dynamics. The bottom line is that in much of the Western world, younger women are seriously outpacing younger men in education and corporate work. I used to see a lot of couples in which the woman was climbing the corporate ladder while the guy had a dead-end job (or was sometimes unemployed).

It will be interesting to see how that plays out, as women almost universally hate dating/marrying down. It is a good indicator for divorce. But as the women's options become further funnelled in the future, I don't know what alternatives they have.

There is a game style in there, though, for those willing to play. Deadbeat game definitely exists. Act like a total degenerate (who can otherwise get her tingling) and you can bag a high-income corporate slave. She'll let you move in to her house, she'll try to "fix you", you might even get a whole new wardrobe or car out of it. When she wises up or you get bored, move on, rinse and repeat. I don't necessarily encourage it, but it can work.

Post: #132

For one I view deadbeat game as disgusting. A man should a purpose that he is pursuing. This purpose makes him feel alive and life worth living. I would feel powerless if I had to wait on a woman for resources. The world is for my taking. Props to guys who played that deadbeat game

Post: #133

I think many of the changes of recent years boil down to one thing:

Visual Hypergamy - girls now place much more value on looks and less on intangible qualities.

This is largely due to social media, but also overexposure to the male form in general. Women have gone from seeing perhaps 1000 unique men at most in their life 100 years ago, to potentially thousands in a week. A girl can see as many unique male faces swiping through tinder one evening as a peasant girl might in her entire life 100 years ago, and not much fewer than a farmgirl would 15 years ago before smartphones. This affects their assessment of what qualifies as good looking.

Intangible Qualities: girls are now unable to measure these in a man due to our feminised society, and place more value on looks as a result.

The intangible sexual hierarchy of alpha, beta, etc. is determined not by women but other men. I often see people talking about alphas as though it is women who detects an alpha. This is false. Throughout most of history male groups existed with collective skin in the game (think tribes hunting for their livelihood or going into battle to protect their life) and men would sort themselves into a hierarchy largely on the basis of intangible masculine qualities such as bravery, trustworthiness, dominance etc. The alpha is the man other men choose to lead them into battle or direct a week-long dangerous hunt. Women would feed off this hierarchy in selecting a mate and since it was the result of the assessment of a large group of men with skin in the game, it provided the most accurate measure of the intangible worth of a man.

These male groups are almost nonexistent now. Not long ago business, politics or the military would provide proxies for these meritocratic male-spaces. But with HR departments and feminisation this is no longer really the case.

The result is that women now find it very difficult to assess intangible masculine characteristics in a man, so they are much more visual. When women do attempt to select for alpha characteristics it is generally the r-selected traits of assholery and ZFG attitude, since r-selected alpha traits are very easy to detect (but also easy to mimic), not being dependent on the assessment of other men with collective skin in the game.

Fame is also increasingly important as it is easy for women to detect. But in our feminised society fame shows less and less correlation with the masculine traits which result in the approval or admiration of other men, so I don’t think fame-chasing women necessarily get what they truly want from a man.

The Result: how you are portrayed on visual media (instagram, tinder photos) is becoming more and more important and the SMP is becoming more and more polarized, but on the basis of looks, not game or status.

On the plus side, in-person game is an excellent way to demonstrate certain masculine traits such as bravery, dominance, composure etc. that girls are more desperate for than ever. However, the glass ceiling for looks for in-person game is also getting lower.

Most of this applies mainly to the west, but it’s spreading.