Post: #1

After being back in Murica for the past year.... It's abundantly clear to me that something is wrong here. The majority of the males I see have super effeminate mannerisms. There are sooo many fat people its stupid, also girls who are young and not fat still have nasty cellulite looking legs.. its like the female skinny fat (not all of them but a lot of them) Four out of every five girls on dating apps are snarky "dog moms." An the majority of the population walks around looking defeated.

What do you think are some of the main causes of Americas decline?

Post: #2

P4FL

Post: #3

Excessive female empowerment.

Degrading treatment of young men.

Corn Syrup.

There was no where near this many fat people in the 80's.

Post: #4

Soda/Pop, an over reliance on grains and potatoes in diets and "Fat acceptance" WTF ever that means. Fucking Fat acceptance? Seriously?

We need to taxthe fuck out of McDonald's and the rest of the lard peddlers. a $.99 burger should have a $3.00 fat tax on it.

(08-15-2018 09:03 PM)TheOllam Wrote:  Excessive female empowerment.

Degrading treatment of young men.

Corn Syrup.

There was no where near this many fat people in the 80's.

Hell no, we got our asses booted out to play at dawn and were told to come home when the street lights came on.

Post: #5

One out of every four women take "mental health drugs" according to this Huffington Post article published in 2011 (cache link here).

But wait, it gets worse. In 2015, WebMD reported that the use of anti-depressants had jumped 65 percent in 15 years. That's likely to mean that even more women are on the drugs now than they were in 2011.

This seems especially true for women ages 30-50, which is the age bracket I deal with a lot. Talking to these women is like talking to Stepford Wives or the bizarre stoner chicks you knew in high school but usually avoided. All logic and reason goes out the window and you wind up talking to the human equivalent of a wall.

The larger point here is that if you have a country where people are drugging themselves into being zombies, then you have some serious issues. Back in the old days, people survived without so many drugs. And, yes, we had "Mother's Little Helpers" like the Rolling Stones sang and alcohol, but I don't think that compares to what we have today.

Anyway, I don't like dealing with people on drugs. Also -- has anyone ever linked women's use of these drugs with the rise in autism? I know women who are on multiple drugs and trying to get pregnant. WTF? There was a time that women wouldn't even drink coffee if they were expecting.

Update: Yes, apparently links have been found between anti-depressant use by women and kids with autism. So, now we have a society of druggie women and disabled kids. That's great. Talk about The Death Of America.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/drexel-study...ant-women/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...to-autism/
https://www.newsweek.com/antidepressant-...isk-639386
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt...SKBN17J1PY

Post: #6

(08-15-2018 08:47 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  What do you think are some of the main causes of Americas decline?

Post: #7

(08-15-2018 09:03 PM)TheOllam Wrote:  Excessive female empowerment.

Degrading treatment of young men.

Corn Syrup.

There was no where near this many fat people in the 80's.

Bitches stopped cooking. When you ask millenials, you get the picture that the only people who cook these days are guys who hit the gym. WTF is with that?

All of that over-processed, low-fat, high-carb, low-mineral 'food' in plastic containers is turning them into fat faggots. On top of that, a large number of young men are turning themselves into shemales by eating female hormones (in the form of soy).
Edit: then they start taking psycho drugs, which makes it even worse.

Post: #8

The root cause is capitalism. All the factors that exist in the environment that degrade and enslave are there because someone is making money from them.

Post: #9

(08-15-2018 09:31 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

^^ ^^
Well played




Kids being raised by singe mothers, divorce rape, the destruction of the nuclear family

Post: #10

(08-15-2018 09:33 PM)RawGod Wrote:  The root cause is capitalism. All the factors that exist in the environment that degrade and enslave are there because someone is making money from them.

I'm sure getting rid of the profit motive would solve everything.

Then again you can't have soyboys if you kill all the soy farmers.

Post: #11

So a few causes:
- Hollywood faggotry and feminist anti-family messages
- smartphones and social media providing too much attention and access to degeneracy. Hamsters weren't designed to be in 24/7 contact with thousands of people.

Are leading to:
- rapid decline in values
- terrible diet
- use of psycho drugs, including birth control pills


The picture was very, very different just 11 years ago (pre- smarphone, Face Book, financial crisis).

Post: #12

Too much work and not enough leisure time.

Post: #13

1. Fat acceptance
2. acceptance of sluts and promiscuous women
3. Instagram (giving men and women unfair and unrealistic standards which leads to idiotic coping)
4. Unreliable information on the internet (both sides have compelling arguments as to why the other side sucks)
5. Lack of true self-improvement and self-reliance (people want to get better just to brag about it it seems)
6. Destruction of masculinity
7. No strong male figures
8. lack of a warrior culture or even a warrior monk culture
9. Healthy food is too hard for most people to get (garbage food is easier to get)
10. Lack of testosterone
11. Special snowflakes where everybody is a blogger and everybody is a revolutionist
12. Two generations of hippie goth abominations (generation z and millennials)
13. Destruction of the nuclear family
14. Feminism

Post: #14

The ills that face America are nothing new in human society. They're the same issues that have plagued humanity since we left the caves and jungles.

There has always been, and always will be, a wealth disparity. At least since the dawn of agriculture and the shift from Hunter-Gatherers.

There has always been, and always will be, greed and materialism. Technology has always played a vital role in this greed.

Much has been written about the spiritual malaise of Western man. It's an interesting dilemma to say the least:

We are very consumed with the external, with ambition, with material wealth, achievements, ego satisfaction, and so on. It's yielded one of the greatest societies the world has known, but with its fair share of ugliness as well. Cell phones, birth control, entertainment...these are not causes of the downfall, but necessary components of the society we live in. They are tools in pleasure-seeking and cures of boredom. They are mere habits of a society that values everything I mentioned above (the external, ambition, wealth, achievements, ego)

There is another side of existence, what many would consider a higher channel, and that's the internal, the world of peace, non-desires, ego death. In essence, the spiritual world, the realm of mysticism and intangibles. Personally, I find organized Christianity in America to be wholly inadequate to address the spiritual yearnings for the modern man (though I find the teachings of Christ to be absolutely perfect)

The fatness and addictions and social ills are just extensions of these fundamental problems that have existed well before smartphones and fast food. But having those things available have just brought the ugliness out in the open more than ever, which is unfortunate.

I see it every day in Vegas. Want to get the pulse of America and a nice cross section of what's going on in this country? Come to Vegas.

Despite the ugliness, I can't bring myself to hate it. It's all part of the dance that we either agree to, or not. Perhaps in our lifetime we may see a great awakening, a 21st century Renaissance of sorts. Or, the machines will take over and in 100 years we'll be extinct.

Either way, it's by far the most exciting time we could possibly be alive.

Post: #15

(08-15-2018 09:33 PM)RawGod Wrote:  The root cause is capitalism. All the factors that exist in the environment that degrade and enslave are there because someone is making money from them.

To paraphrase Churchill (I think it was him), capitalism is the worst system, except for all the others.

Capitalism is not the problem really. Crony capitalism and a lack of accountability and the whole laundry list that other posters have already provided, are the problems.

Post: #16

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/03/...pocalypse/

Many of the reasons listed above are symptoms, not causes. I think Roissy's classic list identifies the causes.

Quote: So, a crib sheet of quippy replies if you ever need it to send a feminist or manboob howling with indignation:

1. The Pill
2. No-fault divorce
3. Working women
4. Man-hating feminism
5. Penicillin
6. Porn

Post: #17

It should also be added that since the advent of hardcore Jewish influence, things have gotten considerably worse for the common prole. I think America up to roughly the late 1960s (?) was an ideal environment, minus the racism against blacks. The big mistake was handing the steering wheel to jews, which historically speaking is never a good idea.

Post: #18

Like you, I started noticing big changes each time I came back. It's like all the masculine men left the cities. The ones who seem masculine because of big muscles are, at least in Washington DC, more likely to be gay.

This is mostly what I see now:

   

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Post: #20

They do still exist though. Where I live in my city is a "border zone" that's straddling where two areas where office and trade jobs are respectively dominant. Even in NYC and Chicago there's no shortage of greasy, masculine guys working in various roles related to the infrastructure of those cities. You just won't see them in the city centers because they're effectively priced out. Even if they weren't most of them prefer a good dive bar over the kind of metro bars you get downtown.

Post: #21

I'll agree with everything listed above, as the 'snowball' has really gained momentum in the last 30 years. But I really think when men started giving in to the demands of women was the spark to a lot of it.

Post: #22

(08-15-2018 09:09 PM)ChefAllDay Wrote:  Soda/Pop, an over reliance on grains and potatoes in diets and "Fat acceptance" WTF ever that means. Fucking Fat acceptance? Seriously?

We need to taxthe fuck out of McDonald's and the rest of the lard peddlers. a $.99 burger should have a $3.00 fat tax on it.

(08-15-2018 09:03 PM)TheOllam Wrote:  Excessive female empowerment.

Degrading treatment of young men.

Corn Syrup.

There was no where near this many fat people in the 80's.

Hell no, we got our asses booted out to play at dawn and were told to come home when the street lights came on.

Maccas has been around for a while where the women used to personally go up to your car and deliver the burgers and not from a glass window.

Just like naughty children when people have not been kept in check by order they run around with an entitlement mentality ruining it for everyone else hence the problems today these Yanks amongst many others brought to the world.

It's frustrating that many chicks from Murica are fat.

Uncle Sam has been helping the world gain more weight with Maccas.
But tax Maccas and the gluttonous are just going to go right next door to KFC or skull down a 2L bottle of Coke or something equally vulgar.

Post: #23

I'm not American, but I recognise all the symptoms above in the UK and Western Europe. I subscribe to the view that this decline is real, natural and cyclical and unfortunately probably beyond the capabilities of any one group of people to arrest.

I know many here are familiar with Sir John Glubb and his The Fate of Empires already, but his observations are incredibly prescient. For those who haven't read his short essay, below is a brief taste (but just read the goddamn essay for free on the internet!)

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'The Fate of Empires is a brief essay laying out the life cycle of an empire. An empire is defined as a super power of their time. He brings examples ranging from Persia, Ancient China, to the Ottoman Empire. In fact, all of his evidence is from eras other than our own era, which makes sense when writing something like this. This read is a basic read, and should be taught to everyone.

The average lifespan of an empire is 250 years. The life cycle of an empire is broken down into six ages. They are:

The Age of Pioneers
The Age of Conquest
The Age of Commerce
The Age of Affluence
The Age of Intellectualism
The Age of Decadence

The age of decadence is the decay of the empire. It is characterized by defensive minded militaries, decaying morals, lost of religion, frivolous consumption of food, entertainment, sex, and the complete focus of individual interests. When things tend to get rough, it would be thought that the people would work together to fix the problems, but instead there are schisms in the society that make the resolution of dire problems impossible. With everyone thinking about themselves, they lack the self-sacrifice and courage needed to defend themselves from collapse internally or from the next age of pioneers.

It is pretty obvious that The United States, the world’s super power, is in the last and final stage, the age of decadence. When just looking at our practices, it becomes clear that our morals have completely collapsed due to actions of various corporations for their increase in profits. When debating politics, people constantly look at how their interests are affected rather than taking into account the needs of other people. Sex is the main theme or method of selling products or services, and there are strip clubs and porn sites. We consume frivolously on drugs, food (obesity), sex, and entertainment. We worship celebrities rather than a God or religion. This all points to a society that is on a verge of collapse. The United States is scheduled to collapse at around 2030. The 10 generation time scale is an average, so it is not exact'
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(I've taken the above from this site as it does a good job of briefing Glubb's essay);

https://jotmonline.com/2013/09/18/reflec...ohn-glubb/

But the essay itself is a very short read so I'd recommend it to anyone here;

http://www.rexresearch.com/glubb/glubb-empire.pdf

You can read Glubb and take the view that there is no point fighting this shit and we might as well sit back and enjoy the decline. This is a little too nihilistic for me, and while I agree with Glubb I prefer to believe that he has given us a red-pilled lens with which to view history and we can use that as we see fit.

You can't fight entropy. Change is going to occur regardless, so we should recognise what's happening around us, take steps (both individually and in groups) to strengthen ourselves, our family, our gangs, tribes, whatever, in order to be best placed to capitalise on the next stage of the cycle; The Age of Pioneers!

Post: #24

(08-16-2018 01:04 AM)Duke Main Wrote:  To paraphrase Churchill (I think it was him), capitalism is the worst system, except for all the others ...

Isn't the Churchill quote this one?

Quote:'Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others'

Either way, substituting capitalism for democracy & economy for government conveys a similar message.

The Cycle Of Empires In Four Pictures: (Summary of Post #23)

Quote:Hard times create strong men. (Winter-Spring)
Strong men create good times. (Spring-Summer)
Good times create weak men. (Summer-Fall)
Weak men create hard times. (Fall-Winter)

Dear Summer
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"There was a statue of a man. It had a head of gold, a chest and arms of silver, a belly and thighs of brass, iron legs, and feet that were made of iron and clay. They represent four world empires throughout history. After that came fragmented kingdoms, some strong and mighty like iron, some weak and subservient like clay."

Post: #25

I agree with the above posters assessment based on The Fate of Empires. However, there are no viable nations who could occupy America in the next 10-15 years. Most likely it will see a transformation similar to the Roman Republic to Empire.