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No Arizona does not count as middle, it's full of retard boomers and libshits who fled california

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Quote:^She can win over a lot of Millenials with her anti-war stance, and I don't think they give a shit about kids. Most of em probably dont have any to begin with.


That’s exactly why they DO care about this. If they had kids they’d be worried about their own kids. Because they don’t that parenting instinct attaches itself in unhealthy ways onto pet causes.
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Millennial voters care about health insurance, student loans, jobs, racism/sexism, and what a bad guy Drumpf is.

There's no evidence to think that a primarily anti-war candidate will appeal to them.
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(02-17-2019 07:01 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  ^She can win over a lot of Millenials with her anti-war stance, and I don't think they give a shit about kids. Most of em probably dont have any to begin with. Plus Tulsi is cute (for her age) and she's a war vet. Middle America loves its military. Who knows, I'm certainly not banking on her winning anything and SamB brought up some valid points, but crazier things have happened.

Oh, no doubt she'll get far. Nobody will ever, ever admit that her childless nature is the reason they aren't voting for her. Just like nobody would admit that a male candidate's height is the reason they voted against Dukakis and McCain and voted for Bush, Clinton, and Obama.

Nevertheless, all recent presidents have been over 6' 0" and short candidates are routinely mocked.

Human beings don't make their decisions based on rational reasons. All decision making is emotional and controlled by the lizard brain. If you don't understand this, time to learn it. Will help you immensely in your future career.

For women, fertility will be the deciding factor. Women voters, especially, are incredibly vicious to each other. I actually will enjoy it if Tulsi wins the nom. Will enjoy watching her get torn to quivering little strips of flesh by her fellow women.
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(02-18-2019 01:43 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  [Image: Screenshot-20190218-133848-Opera.jpg]

https://nypost.com/2019/02/07/alexandria...x-for-10m/

[Image: Screenshot-20190218-133653-Metal.jpg]

She's doing what Kardashian did...converting accidental fame into a huge multi-milion dollar paycheck.

But let's be clear: nothing she is doing here is in any way "good" for the US government. She is tearing apart an important institution to put money in her pockets, with zero benefit to the poor stupid slobs in her district.
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(02-18-2019 04:40 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  She's doing what Kardashian did...converting accidental fame into a huge multi-milion dollar paycheck.

But let's be clear: nothing she is doing here is in any way "good" for the US government. She is tearing apart an important institution to put money in her pockets, with zero benefit to the poor stupid slobs in her district.

Even the Amazon situation.
I could give a damn about Amazon either way & can see that that situation is not a simple black & white situation.
Yet now that it's all over. Nothing constructive has come out of it, especially for the local folk of NY.
Rents may not have gone up, yet the job market has not gone up either & neither has investment.
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(02-18-2019 05:28 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  
(02-18-2019 04:40 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  She's doing what Kardashian did...converting accidental fame into a huge multi-milion dollar paycheck.

But let's be clear: nothing she is doing here is in any way "good" for the US government. She is tearing apart an important institution to put money in her pockets, with zero benefit to the poor stupid slobs in her district.

Even the Amazon situation.
I could give a damn about Amazon either way & can see that that situation is not a simple black & white situation.
Yet now that it's all over. Nothing constructive has come out of it, especially for the local folk of NY.
Rents may not have gone up, yet the job market has not gone up either & neither has investment.

If I was Amazon, I'd move to Newark, New Jersey just to rub salt in the wound. Plus, if Michael Lewis' book Flashboys is accurate and my Amazon theory has any merit, the telecom lines that they would need to disrupt Wall Street are located there anyway.
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I understand the concern about rising rents and a general disdain for Amazon. Still, I view jobs as good thing.

From what I understood the 25,000 Amazon jobs paid an average of $150k or so. Even if these jobs were not going to be filled by AOC’s constituency, a large Amazon presence would have spill over benefits in the area. For example, local hotels, restaurants, and merchants would see increased business traffic off the back of having Amazon in the area. This could translate into more jobs albeit not necessarily at Amazon.
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Not only that, Long Island City is really growing. Sort of similar to how much of Brooklyn was basically an unused area 20 years ago and after bringing in real estate developers and adding hundreds of apartment buildings, stores and supermarkets, and a larger population, there is a push to do that in Long Island City in queens, starting with apartment buildings. Essentially Brooklyn has become more like Manhattan, Long Island City will see the same thing happen. Having amazon and all of their thousands of high paying jobs would have been quite a boon. I’m sure things will continue on without amazon but running them off the way they did is idiotic.

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(02-18-2019 01:43 PM)BallsDeep Wrote:  [Image: Screenshot-20190218-133848-Opera.jpg]

https://nypost.com/2019/02/07/alexandria...x-for-10m/

[Image: Screenshot-20190218-133653-Metal.jpg]

So this is where she picked her $10M and above marginal tax number from. . . .I thought it sounded a bit arbitrary at the time.
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(02-19-2019 09:06 AM)eradicator Wrote:  Not only that, Long Island City is really growing. Sort of similar to how much of Brooklyn was basically an unused area 20 years ago and after bringing in real estate developers and adding hundreds of apartment buildings, stores and supermarkets, and a larger population, there is a push to do that in Long Island City in queens, starting with apartment buildings. Essentially Brooklyn has become more like Manhattan, Long Island City will see the same thing happen. Having amazon and all of their thousands of high paying jobs would have been quite a boon. I’m sure things will continue on without amazon but running them off the way they did is idiotic.

I think it's a mistake to view Long Island City as a single entity like this. Amazon's coming would've had different benefits and drawbacks for different residents.
Property owners, obviously, would benefit enormously, as did any commercial business that owned its own building. Renters would've suffered heavily, as they were now forced to compete with people making 4 times their salary. That's both commercial renters and apartment renters, by the way. One of the things that happen when rental cost skyrockets is that small individual tenants are forced out and replaced with large chains who can better afford the rent. The stereotypical example would be that neat little independent coffee shop on the corner being replaced with a Starbucks.

So if you were say, a family which rented an apartment and ran a local Mexican restaurant, Amazon's coming would mean the loss of your job and the loss of your home. Why would you care what benefits it had for the area's tax base? You won't be around to enjoy it.
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(02-18-2019 04:40 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  But let's be clear: nothing she is doing here is in any way "good" for the US government. She is tearing apart an important institution to put money in her pockets, with zero benefit to the poor stupid slobs in her district.

Thats what communists do and surprise surprise, she is one.
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Clueless is, as clueless does.



Agnominity...?
Anyway. Did she really not know that D.C. is a den of vipers? Did she not know that the Swamp is deep & full of traitors?
Is she completely unaware of espionage & the Cold War?

Probably.
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(02-19-2019 05:01 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Clueless is, as clueless does.



Agnominity...?
Anyway. Did she really not know that D.C. is a den of vipers? Did she not know that the Swamp is deep & full of traitors?
Is she completely unaware of espionage & the Cold War?

Probably.

Covfefe...

why do you keep getting playing like this?

C'mon man, you're smart - SamB and Leonard have explained the playbook here. Don't keep falling for it

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(02-19-2019 05:37 PM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  Covfefe...

why do you keep getting playing like this?

C'mon man, you're smart - SamB and Leonard have explained the playbook here. Don't keep falling for it

Except there's a key difference.
Something as simple as 'covfefe' & other Trump antics, can rile up the Soycialist types. Trigger their emotions, trigger their stunted amygdala.

Whereas with AOC's antics, it's a simple matter of being rather bemused / amused & laughing at her.
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Not buying it, and you know it's not true.

You know what I post when I see something stupid that has no potential to harm me and my family?

Laugh3

Laugh4

Laugh5

I don't see those gifs used here.

Guys that keep posting AOC shit "ridiculing" her? Including James Woods?

That shit is pure salt. It looks like salt. It tastes like salt. And if it looks like salt and tastes like salt then it's salt.

This forum is abandoning all tenets of frame as applied to politics.

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Wait, wait, wait.
This is the RVF.

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

Here's the reality. You are an emotional slave to this woman. The emotions may vary but your insistence on hanging on every "stupid" word she utters is in direct violation of all masculine ethos. Cortez is not on your side and doesn't know you exist. You are not swaying anyone who would otherwise support her into not supporting her and I refute your claims that this is all simply amusing to you. I'm not buying it, nor would I buy it from the other members that stop here routinely to "make fun of her" which in reality is obsessing over her.

What stupid stuff has Alma Adams said lately? What about Susie Lee? What about Angie Craig? What about Lauren Underwood?

AOC is a 10 foot tall statue on a 100 foot tall pedestal and the tomatoes you throw don't even reach her feet but your efforts to harm her sure do mobilize the left around her.

That so few people understand this makes me realise that the Right has inherently learned nothing since 2016 and the second that Trump was elected they fell immediately back into their mental recliners.

Business as usual. Yet I will persist. These issues are no longer about useful political activism. They are teachable moments about life itself.

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(02-19-2019 09:34 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Wait, wait, wait.
This is the RVF.

We're supposed to respect chicks now...? [Image: Upside-smile.png]

I respect her for being smarter than the guys who keep laughing at her for being so dumb.

I've been thinking about it a lot, and I'm thinking the US will be a socialist nation in every way that Europe is within say, 10 years. Conservatives are either corrupt, like the ones in congress, or stupid and arrogant, like the ones in this thread. We don't stand a chance.
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(02-19-2019 10:04 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  I respect her for being smarter than the guys who keep laughing at her for being so dumb.

I've been thinking about it a lot, and I'm thinking the US will be a socialist nation in every way that Europe is within say, 10 years. Conservatives are either corrupt, like the ones in congress, or stupid and arrogant, like the ones in this thread. We don't stand a chance.

Mountains rise & fall.
Empires rise & fall.

Nothing new about that...
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I'm curious though, to see what she does next.

The Green New Dream is essentially up in smoke in this current political environment.
The Amazon thing was as much circumstantial as it was neither here nor there.
Plus with Jussie Smollett sucking up so much of the airwaves at the moment & to the detriment of the DNC narrative.

Gaffy may well be compelled to generate more attention in some daft way.
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(02-19-2019 10:19 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  I'm curious though, to see what she does next.

The Green New Dream is essentially up in smoke in this current political environment.
The Amazon thing was as much circumstantial as it was neither here nor there.
Plus with Jussie Smollett sucking up so much of the airwaves at the moment & to the detriment of the DNC narrative.

Gaffy may well be compelled to generate more attention in some daft way.

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(02-19-2019 10:13 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  
(02-19-2019 10:04 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  I respect her for being smarter than the guys who keep laughing at her for being so dumb.

I've been thinking about it a lot, and I'm thinking the US will be a socialist nation in every way that Europe is within say, 10 years. Conservatives are either corrupt, like the ones in congress, or stupid and arrogant, like the ones in this thread. We don't stand a chance.

Mountains rise & fall.
Empires rise & fall.

Nothing new about that...

There's nothing new about people mangling themselves in horrific bandsaw accidents, either. But if I say, "You should really stay away from that bandsaw after your 5th shot of jack daniels" and you mouth a banal platitude like the one you just said, you're not a deep, world-weary intellectual, you're a reckless idiot who's about to lose some fingers.
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