Post: #26

(05-09-2018 11:07 PM)Steelex Wrote:  if she wants to get fucked up don't be the asshole that stops her

That's right, she is an independent strong woman pill head and you should tell her "yeah sweetie take the pills to feel good, don't listen to your mean boyfriend", hold her hair back when she's slumped over the toilet later, after all don't be an asshole..

Jesus what the fuck have men and the relations with women come to.

Here's an idea- let her do what she wants, sure, but walk out and leave that junkie whore on the floor.

If you regularly find yourself with girls who desire pills, and who have multiple slut stories to share, look for better women and find something better to do with your life.

Post: #27

(05-10-2018 01:16 AM)Ice Man Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 11:07 PM)Steelex Wrote:  if she wants to get fucked up don't be the asshole that stops her

That's right, she is an independent strong woman pill head and you should tell her "yeah sweetie take the pills to feel good, don't listen to your mean boyfriend", hold her hair back when she's slumped over the toilet later, after all don't be an asshole..

Jesus what the fuck have men and the relations with women come to.

Here's an idea- let her do what she wants, sure, but walk out and leave that junkie whore on the floor.

If you regularly find yourself with girls who desire pills, and who have multiple slut stories to share, look for better women and find something better to do with your life.

Taking pills with girls didn't work out well for Bill Cosby. There is really no way to prove whether they took them on their own or were actually slipped them. Banging druggies can be a dangerous sport. Not to mention if she has some other kinda intravenous drug problem.

I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of cases like this in the west pumping through the media quick. Bunch of broke druggie girls find out the guy they slept with was a man of means then claim all the shit they put in their system was slipped in by the guy.

Remember even if a guy somehow lucks out and gets out of a conviction the rape charge in and of itself is enough to destroy a mans future. Charges are not typically dropped from the record. I got off of a DUI once but the charge still shows up, just says dismissed by it. I still get asked about it every time I go through a background check.

In America they can also still sue you for everything you got in a separate civil case even after being acquitted.

This already happens a lot in Domestic Violence cases

Post: #28

(05-08-2018 11:15 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  Stopped reading after ghb. Fuck guys who drug girls.even Coke and Molly (aka amphetamines + random research chems)fuck your bodybuilding g4p rape drug shit. You are a loser with no style.if you are into ghb and orgies I am 100% sure you have sucked a dick before.

Long term nothing good comes out of that shit.drug use promises glamour and great things but is never worth it.

Gameless degenerate druggy. Your attitude and culture spreads like flame destroying all in its path in our society.

Surprised no "Make sure you buy the bitch a four loko to make her blackout while you're at it!"

No offence brother but from you post history you seem to be quite a conservative young kid who just left high school. Drugs, gays, and foreign culture still seem to be the bogeyman for you.

If you knew me, I'm sure you'd change your judgemental tune speaking of judgemental attitudes, I wonder how your game is doing at the moment?

You might not want to hear it, but the hottest party girls who will suck your cock balls deep for half an hour straight are also the type of girls who take drugs and hang out with crazy well-off freaks like me. It ain't the quiet chick with a ponytail reading English classics in a quaint cafe.

All of what I do is done with utmost respect for other people and respect for consent, good vibes, and safety (within reason).

Peace out, and have fun buddy. Sex drugs and rock'n'roll (or whatever genre of music!) is a beautiful combination!

Post: #29

(05-09-2018 06:46 AM)Suits Wrote:  I'd like to see a datasheet on how to have casual sex with a room full of women without paying, without involving drugs and without another penis being involved.

I believe Islam has a 72 virgin datasheet. Different game to what I run, but seems like an interesting proposition.

Datasheet available here: https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Quran-Arabic...1853723142

Post: #30

It's always the guys who are injecting steroids to help get and stay built, taking dick pills to keep a boner, and having drugs play a key role in their intimate encounters who like to talk about "good vibes" and "openness" being the key.

And you ask about another man's game?

Give me a break.

Post: #31

I agree... Fuck drugs.
Not gonna enable pill head,coke head or even weed head chicks.. Just to get my dick wet.

I've had a couple threesomes before and I'm not in college
Best thing I can say is to have casual relationships with chicks that truly don't mind you having other women around.
And introduce them.


My go to plan is inviting two chicks I smash over to go to a couple bars and listen to music.
Nothing wild.. Just be honest and let them both know you're fucking both of them.
If your game is good enough to keep them around you this point... And the two girls have bisexual tendencies... The threesome might... happen.


Every time I tried to force it... The two girls feel stressed and obligated.
Which is the opposite of what you want them to be.
You don't need drugs for that

Post: #32

I've never been in an orgy, but I imagine the best and easiest way to get into this sort of thing regularly is to visit an adult/swingers resort. They have a couple around where I live. You pay a cover and they have couples, singles, and groups that come to hang out, be naked, share eachother, or even just watch eachother. Sounds fun as hell honestly.

(05-10-2018 01:16 AM)Ice Man Wrote:  

(05-09-2018 11:07 PM)Steelex Wrote:  if she wants to get fucked up don't be the asshole that stops her

That's right, she is an independent strong woman pill head and you should tell her "yeah sweetie take the pills to feel good, don't listen to your mean boyfriend", hold her hair back when she's slumped over the toilet later, after all don't be an asshole..

Jesus what the fuck have men and the relations with women come to.

Here's an idea- let her do what she wants, sure, but walk out and leave that junkie whore on the floor.

If you regularly find yourself with girls who desire pills, and who have multiple slut stories to share, look for better women and find something better to do with your life.

(05-10-2018 05:50 AM)Ice Man Wrote:  It's always the guys who are injecting steroids to help get and stay built, taking dick pills to keep a boner, and having drugs play a key role in their intimate encounters who like to talk about "good vibes" and "openness" being the key.

And you ask about another man's game?

Give me a break.

Seeing some anti-game puritanism like this in this in here.

I get it, when I was younger I used to be straight edge and was super against drinking and doing drugs.

...but I also didn't judge others for doing whatever they do to have a good time.

If you're not hurting anyone else then party on.

Drugs and alcohol go with sex and partying like spaghetti and meatballs. Sure you can have one without the other, but having them all together certainly makes for a more interesting and fun experience most of the time.

Post: #33

(05-10-2018 04:01 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Seeing some anti-game puritanism like this in this in here.

Fucking girls without drugging them up first is anti-game?

Using every substance under the sun, while giving her substances, is game??

Bizzare.

What I'm saying is there are a few members here who like to write touch feely shit about "you just gotta have the vibes" and "be open" and "just dance and be free"

..and they fail to mention they get jacked on roids, viagra, and loosen all the bitches up with GHB. Oh by the way I'm wealthy.

But that's pure "game"

Sorry if I don't agree.

Absolutely, do what you want, that's fine by me- but don't piss on me and tell it's raining, that's all I'm saying.

(05-10-2018 04:01 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  I get it, when I was younger I used to be straight edge and was super against drinking and doing drugs.

Curious- why did that change, and what benefits have you seen from doing these substances as you age?

As I've aged I've realized how detrimental to my health and longevity so much of that stuff is.

Post: #34

@Ice Man

Giving girls drugs isn't about taking advantage of them. It's not like you are slipping shit into their drink like some fuckin rapist. Substances are just the party lubricant. Most people do em, and contrary to what you may or may not believe, fun slutty party girls love drugs. They like smoking weed, doing coke, popping molly, you name it. Those might not be your type of girls, but to each their own.

When I say anti-game I'm talking about acting like girls are innocent snowflakes and giving them drugs is bad and not a good way to get with them. Also, whats so wrong about taking steroids or viagra? Like I said, no reason to shame others for doing shit they like to do or enhances their lives that literally affects no one else but themselves.

As for me and substance:

I started getting into drugs and drinking in my late 20's believe it or not, and the reason that changed was simply because I loosened up my worldview and decided I wanted to experience more of what the world had to offer - and I'm glad I did. I'm a huge fan of moderation though and do not have an addictive personality by any means. Getting a good buzz when at a party or out at a club is just a great way to feel more loose, comfortable, and carefree. Not that I need that like I'm pent up - ask anyone whose met me on here they'll tell you I'm one fo the most easy going carefree dudes there are. It's just a good sensation you can't get from just being sober. Blowing coke gets you more talkative and free-flowing then you normally would be, and just makes it easier to enjoy every situation you find yourself in. Doing molly or ecstasy just makes everything feel awesome physically and mentally in a way being sober never ever will. fucking on molly or X is something everyone should try at least once in their life.

But I also understand it's not for everyone and plenty of people have zero desire to do it. That said, it's not their place to pass judgment on others who like to imbibe.

Post: #35

(05-10-2018 12:38 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  An orgy starts with 3 girls and if necessary 2 guys. Ideally you have 10-20 girls per 2 guys. A good ratio is 3-5 times as many women than men. In some colleges those things happen regularly. To do it without any money later in life involves a certain degree of planning and I would be interested to know how you can plan that.

I've gotten close to these terms, but still blew quite a bit of cash in doing so (about 150 bucks). If someone has a better method not requiring drugs or a pre-existing social circle, please enlighten me.

I 'piggyback' off of an event, like a concert. Doesn't necessarily have to be a sold out Arena - in Cincinnati we have a small theatre "Bogart's" that has a 500 person capacity. To boot, it is also located just a half mile from the UC campus. As you can imagine, that automatically reduces prospects to the 18-22 y/o range.

Now here's the key - I had rented a 4 passenger limo that cost me $150 for the night. (it was a 1996 model with a basic interior, which is why it was so inexpensive)

I left the show about 20 mins early (I noticed the finest girls leave right before the last 2 songs - ill elaborate later)

I then had the driver cruise up and down Vine Street as the girls poured out of the venue.

Had the window cracked halfway, and started yelling out elderly openers (asking for directions to hotel). The goal was to see if any of would request a ride, or attempt to continue the conversation. Obviously most didn't because hot girls will pretend to be 'uninterested' so they don't seem thirsty in front of their friends.

But i did get one group who responded enthusiastically, asking if i worked for the rappers (Migos/Rae Sremmurd). I didnt answer directly, just said "my boss" is having an afterparty, and they were invited if they could get there on their own.

So we show up to the hotel about a half hour later, and that group of 5 girls is there... plus a dozen other chicks (more on this later).

I had only the original 5 (from the venue) hop in and basically ran "qualifying" game. On my iPad i had them record 30 sec videos introducing themselves (full name, hometown, career path) that i'd presumably e-mail to "my boss". But instead i playfully mocked them, whether it was how they talked or their career aspirations. I explained how "my boss" meets girls like this everyday and it would take alot more to impress him than that.

Pulled out the iPad again and instructed them to do the same exact introduction.... But while lifting up their shirts. At first all of them were looking apprehensive, waiting to see who would go first.. I made laser like eye contact with the leader of the group, and said her name in a commanding tone, the same way you would with a pet. Seconds later, her tits flop out and its like a chain reaction - everybodys wiggling their boobs for the iPad. I then told them to make out with each other, so 4 girls were occupied with one left over. I told the lonesome girl to unzip my pants, let her suck me off for a bit before i fucked the shit out of her, then rotated the rest of the girls. Had my iPad rolling the entire time.

Goes to show you, how strongly girls react to negs/insults, and engineering a scenario where they have to prove themselves. I can't remember if theres a better word for it, but in Psychology you have the "yes" ladder where you have someone comply with a seriee of small requests, and gradually turn up the heat as opposed to asking straight away for what you want.

Earlier i had mentioned hot girls leaving before the show is over - I eventually got a job working at a hotel and noticed not just on Concert nights...MLB/NFL games etc... groups of girls will pitch in for a room, and wander all about the hotel, hoping to party withbsomeone important. They always exit the event early, so they have the best odds of meeting somebody.

Since it's baseball season, ill go to a hotel and "elderly open" women in the lounge/bar area pretending to be visiting from where ever the opposing team is from. Ill ask ofvthey're going to the game tonight, and offer tickets (ordering months in advance you can get a batch of 10 tickets for $50). Ill make up some story that im loosely affiliated with a pro player and can arrange a meet up. Then later that night ill run them thru the same qualifying game i do with the concerts.

Post: #36

< Interesting story. Difficult to say whether real, but sounds cool nonetheless.

Post: #37

(05-10-2018 04:37 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  When I say anti-game I'm talking about acting like girls are innocent snowflakes and giving them drugs is bad and not a good way to get with them. Also, whats so wrong about taking steroids or viagra? Like I said, no reason to shame others for doing shit they like to do or enhances their lives that literally affects no one else but themselves.

100%, clearly girls aren't innocent snowflakes, I didn't say or imply that. What I implied was that personally there is no reason to purposely seek out girls who have (and share) "all of their crazy slut stories" and who pop pills. As depraved as most women can be, there is certainly a large percentage who are not pill heads or drug addicts and do not have multiple crazy slut stories.

I feel it is perfectly reasonable to both understand the nature of women while also seeking out the ones who are not completely broken pill poppers and extreme whores- they do exist, as I have been fucking them for years

Having this approach and view is not the same as viewing girls "innocent snowflakes". Yes, yes, someone will pop in accusing me of saying "NAWALT", but it's just true- there is absolutely a spectrum, and not all women are popping pills and getting gang banged on the weekend. Saying this truth is not saying girls are "innocent snowflakes".

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Quote:I started getting into drugs and drinking in my late 20's believe it or not, and the reason that changed was simply because I loosened up my worldview and decided I wanted to experience more of what the world had to offer.

I'm not sure quite what is meant by "worldview" in this context- I've experienced great things all over the world and I'm "open" to the amazing things I've seen and done. Not doing drugs doesn't mean there is a "tightness" in worldview that needs "loosening". I do understand what you're saying if you simply mean "experience something different", as drugs will certainly give you that, fair enough.

Quote:Doing molly or ecstasy just makes everything feel awesome physically and mentally in a way being sober never ever will.

Certainly doing drugs can make one "feel good" for a time. However I think tossing aside reality and sobriety as the "boring" state is a mistake, and one of the great damages to the worldview of a substance taker. There is so much more I can see, sense and feel in normal everyday life since I quit taking any substances that I would have missed or framed as "boring" previously.

Taking drugs and "feeling good" and seeing sobriety as boring is a self fulfilling prophecy- of course sobriety can't compare, because you lose your ability to actually feel and appreciate un-drugged life. It's a circle that just re-enforces itself over time.

Quote:But I also understand it's not for everyone and plenty of people have zero desire to do it. That said, it's not their place to pass judgment on others who like to imbibe.

I can agree with that.

Finally and again- my initial thoughts on this topic were not meant to preach about sobriety, there is nothing wrong with what any guy chooses to do. My point was and remains this: I feel it is disingenuous to use every possible drug to enhance yourself, and drugs to lubricate a girls inhibitions, but then turn around and say to another guy "well tell me how is your game bro", as well as tell guys unrealistic and simplistic takes on how to seduce women while leaving out some very key facts that lead to his "success".

I'm not saying that is completely on OP, I've seen a few guys who do this here. "Just write her a love letter and bring her flowers" "it's vibes and openness", while they fail to mention the numerous factors that really lead to their success.

There is nothing wrong getting the pussy any way you can, there is no one way to do it or best way- I simply don't like reading guys who are misleading others, that's all I meant.

Post: #38

I don't think SteezeySteve managed to read past the first sentence or two of the OP. Theres a pretty big difference between having fun doing drugs with a girl (or girls) the way the OP is talking about, and a sober man drugging a girl the way Bill Cosby did it. One involves sharing a fun experience for both of you that increases the likelihood of some freaky sex. The other involves taking advantage of a girl by deliberately getting her fucked up.

Getting high on coke / molly / whatever and having sex with hot but retarded party girls isn't a good long term, or extremely frequent, hobby to get into. But anyone who hasn't at least tried it at some point in their 20s is missing out on a very fun life experience. Life's all about the spice of sexual variety.

Though OP you might want to be careful inviting them back to your place if you're doing it often. Theres a pretty high probability of one of them being properly crazy if you bang enough druggy party girls, and that can get dangerous. Better to go to their places or hotels if you can.

Post: #39

(05-10-2018 05:18 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  < Interesting story. Difficult to say whether real, but sounds cool nonetheless.

He can post those ipad screenshots with faces blurred out... easy.

Post: #40

Threesomes are fine and I've yet to experience anything hotter than two girls blowing you at the same time or the one you're fucking from behind is licking the other one's pussy.
It works quite well if it's the girl to find the other girl, either she knows one who's already into it or she can recruit one for you.

Regarding orgies, I am with some of the guys here who just can't stand being very close to another dick and risking that dick brushing all over you...it would be a boner killer for me.

Post: #41

(05-08-2018 01:09 PM)elRey Wrote:  The past few months particularly, I've been really hitting orgies hard and I'd love to hear what other guys' experience has been. I've been stumbling into group sex at least once every couple of weeks on average now for the last few months and it has been mind blowing. My first orgy was less than a year ago, but I've been having them all the time, and I'm still quite young, so it has been interesting for me to learn how to get these parties started.

I have initiated the vast majority of orgies I've been involved in. The key is just asking when everyone, or the main girl involved, is comfortable and relaxed.

Uh... When I was 28 I attended an orgy of sorts. It was at one of those pay to enter swinger places and you had to bring a woman to get in. I had a female friend that was curious about it too. My friend was a big girl... like 250+lbs, so I convinced her to come with me.

I will tell you that I was completely shocked when I got there. The average woman was probably 55yo... and very heavy. There were some young attractive men like me, but after wandering around the party for over an hour I never ran into even a single woman that could pass a boner test.

I have no idea how you initiate orgies, but they pretty much lost all fascination for me after that. I'm not all that into the idea of threesome either.

Post: #42

(05-15-2018 11:05 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(05-08-2018 01:09 PM)elRey Wrote:  The past few months particularly, I've been really hitting orgies hard and I'd love to hear what other guys' experience has been. I've been stumbling into group sex at least once every couple of weeks on average now for the last few months and it has been mind blowing. My first orgy was less than a year ago, but I've been having them all the time, and I'm still quite young, so it has been interesting for me to learn how to get these parties started.

I have initiated the vast majority of orgies I've been involved in. The key is just asking when everyone, or the main girl involved, is comfortable and relaxed.

Uh... When I was 28 I attended an orgy of sorts. It was at one of those pay to enter swinger places and you had to bring a woman to get in. I had a female friend that was curious about it too. My friend was a big girl... like 250+lbs, so I convinced her to come with me.

I will tell you that I was completely shocked when I got there. The average woman was probably 55yo... and very heavy. There were some young attractive men like me, but after wandering around the party for over an hour I never ran into even a single woman that could pass a boner test.

I have no idea how you initiate orgies, but they pretty much lost all fascination for me after that. I'm not all that into the idea of threesome either.

Depends on the location. Anyway, most of these places have rooms. . . So even though you may not want to bang half of the people there, you can approach a few you would and grab a room away from the uglies.

You kind of have to set expectations when you go to these. If you don't know anyone, go with your date under the expectation "hey where going to bang in the public where everyone can see us, and who knows maybe well see someone who wants to join in". That way you aren't dissapointed if the crowd sucks.

That said, I've had girls just hop in after watching me fuck the girl I came with. Or if they gather around, have your date grab her or grab her yourself, or maybe just put her hands on your girl. . .depends on the vibe.

Bottom line, dont attend one of these without bringing a girl who you'd enjoy banging one on one, because theres no guarantee you'll see anyone else worth banging. Attractive people tend to find each other at these type of things, as you will share a mutual disgust for the fuglies. Best to have a few drinks, one you start fucking they become invisible anyway.

Post: #43

If you do drugs regularly, you're probably weak minded and also enabling terrible, destructive behaviour. You do you, of course, but don't go around pimping out your lifestyle as if it's superior to everyone else's.

Post: #44

-Drugs substantially suppress immunity. No doubt about that.

-Sex will expose you to numerous pathogens. (Especially risky sex/orgies etc.)

-I`m not moralizing at all, I`m a Laissez-Faire guy, but what the OP is talking about is, empirically speaking, a very dangerous thing to do.

Post: #45

@OP Well I have nothing against using the grass if you're into that sort of thing (I don't use it personally)

But I'd like to see a formal HOW-TO-DO guide to pull these off consistently. And you've used sweds as your example, do you think you can replicate this at other places like US, Asia or LatAm?

Post: #46

In the past, I was into FMF threesomes, with limited (albeit nonzero) success but great motivation. The limited success I had always involved me and an LTR or VLTR (V for very) with another girl. My experience those days was that a couple could easily attract another couple or another man. Both options involved another dick not just in the room but in my LTR. I would never ever agree to something like that. Finding just one extra girl proved much more difficult. One way that worked, once in a blue moon, was inviting my side girl to join me and my main girl. One other time, my main girl found the extra one. Anyway, in some circles the ideal bisexual girls who really like couples are called unicorns, a name that accurately reflects the difficulty of finding them.

Regarding drugs, including alcohol, mixed with sex. I can't understand the attraction to girls who are under the influence, even if they volunteered to imbibe. On top of that, having sex with them these days involves a major rape accusation risk. Bill Cosby's guilt or innocence aside, today it is 100% clear to anybody that if a girl proves you had sex with her while she was under the influence you will be convicted. Why risk it?

Post: #47

(05-08-2018 11:15 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  Stopped reading after ghb. Fuck guys who drug girls.even Coke and Molly (aka amphetamines + random research chems)fuck your bodybuilding g4p rape drug shit. You are a loser with no style.if you are into ghb and orgies I am 100% sure you have sucked a dick before.

Long term nothing good comes out of that shit.drug use promises glamour and great things but is never worth it.

Gameless degenerate druggy. Your attitude and culture spreads like flame destroying all in its path in our society.

Surprised no "Make sure you buy the bitch a four loko to make her blackout while you're at it!"

Get out then, you judgmental bum. It's a choice to be in this thread.

Post: #48

When guys start dishing out health advice in a thread about orgies:

Post: #49

I've been around the drugs enough to realize that pretty much all the people around it are scummy.

And no I was never a former addict but hung around certain circles.....both sell side and buy side...thank God i stood by my own personal honour code and have principles.

I've just seen too much scummy shit with guys using drugs to get 14/15 year girls and had guns pointed at me by pill heads and other stories I'm not going to go into.

I'm not against enhancing an expierence with with drugs but through and through it's not worth it and I hate the glamorization of shit... especially drug use. So I'll stick to my guns on being anti drug use as a life recommendation. Even if it's expierences a large portion will be stuff you don't even want to tell other people. Or see.

Seriously most people who have been in those dark places and seen shit will agree with me.

Also this "ghb and ganbang a bitch" stuff is retarded but even if you disagree it doesnt exactly help us against the "metoo" "rapeculture" stuff.

Post: #50

I was in an orgy once, it was kinda weird. Everyone wearing masks and this creepy ass music playing. Also Tom Cruise was there.

I took a picture.