Post: #26

I can see this working with certain demographics of women.

I prefer 18-22 year old women that are in "cool / popular" circles. Superficial things like good looking, have a strong social media following, with many followers and likes on Instagram photos, coupled with many comments from her equally as attractive and popular friends telling her how pretty she is.

Instead, I'd imagine these girls would prefer words like (mostly said through text):
lit
goals
dkm (short for don't kill me, a new way of saying "lol" in white girls lingo)
wbu (what about you)
hbu (how about you)
*proper emoji use*

It all depends on the demographics you are going after.

Post: #27

Nothing makes their panties more wet then driving around, and approaching random people at intersections and going: "Pardon me, but do you have any Grey Poupon?".

Those jersey shore Italians love it.

Seriously, unless you're a member of the British upper class, you really shouldn't try imitating them.

You'd look like an idiot.

Post: #28

Having grown up in a very waspy town, I can say that this will likely come off as try hard with old money people. Hank's goal seems to be banging girls who are not old money themselves, so I could see him having pretty good success. The upper class people I know tend to be polite, speak properly without going over the top, and have little to no regional accent. The ones who have the most money tend to be the least flashy. I know an older guy who is worth several 100 million dollars but drives a 10+ year old Volvo station wagon.

Post: #29

Great post Hank.

I suspect this works quite well for you because you're dating girls from a typical blue collar background.

People want what they don't have, everyone craves novelty.

Many high society women will fuck the skater punk, bartender, dj for the same reasons. That's the whole premise behind the movie Titanic. There is a reason that movie was so popular.

So keep in mind this "high society game" can work against you in actual high society circles.

Post: #30

Very interesting point, tr1cky.

Post: #31

(01-25-2018 04:10 PM)tr1cky Wrote:  Great post Hank.

I suspect this works quite well for you because you're dating girls from a typical blue collar background.

People want what they don't have, everyone craves novelty.

Many high society women will fuck the skater punk, bartender, dj for the same reasons. That's the whole premise behind the movie Titanic. There is a reason that movie was so popular.

So keep in mind this "high society game" can work against you in actual high society circles.

Precisely.

I can't run that type of game. It would be incongruent with my career, lifestyle, and personality. It's incredibly effective for guys who can. Skate punks, DJs, tattoo artists, promoters, those dudes clean up. These guys manage to smash your graduate students, nurses, teachers, etc.

I have much better "luck" with servers, hairdressers, strippers, etc. People laugh about this.

Post: #32

Also, just to add some random stuff...

"By all means..." (like when she asks if she can have another drink)
"We're not poor, so feel free to indulge."

And then just use a lot of random language that is very, shall we say, delicate. My random pointers...

- Talk very little about yourself
- Ask a lot of questions about her
- Let her do most of the talking
- Be very cool to the server, and treat them like they're your wing

Post: #33

Reminds me of the quote, "treat a whore like a lady and a lady like a whore."

But those were just examples of common archetypes that a high society girl would fuck based on her need for novelty/excitement.

However, that's the problem with archetypes as a form of "game". You adopt the "professional lawyer" and it works great for blue collar girls but misses the high society chicks. You adopt the "punk skater" identity and it attracts one set of girls and turns off another.

Thats why, like hank says, it is much more effective to focus on the girl and how she feels/thinks. That works on ALL girls, not just some.

If you're (naturally) the professional lawyer dealing with a blue collar chick, you play up the part of you that is high society. If you meet a high society chick, you don't change your identity, you play up the part of yourself that will provide the emotions she craves aka you're a mysterious but certainly degenerate lawyer who may or may not be involved in some sort of criminal element.

Hank was just kind enough to give us some tools to use to feed a certain type of women's emotional desires.

Be who you are, but give women the emotions they want.

Post: #34

(01-20-2018 10:55 PM)dogthom Wrote:  Nothing makes their panties more wet then driving around, and approaching random people at intersections and going: "Pardon me, but do you have any Grey Poupon?".
Those jersey shore Italians love it.
Seriously, unless you're a member of the British upper class, you really shouldn't try imitating them.
You'd look like an idiot.

For men SMV is partly predicated on social status. If you adopt mannerisms and speech patterns of successful people you will convey higher SMV. It's really that simple. Plus, when you actually interact with highly successful people they will feel more comfortable around you. I've learned that doing C-Suite sales, that you have to adopt a slightly different approach to Ivy League Execs. Those deals tend to be way bigger as well.

Does it work with Jersey Shore girls? I don't know. I have seen it work wonders with black women and white girls of all varieties. This won't work on women who are not native English speakers. Unlike many other languages English has for at least 500 years used vocabulary and speech mannerisms to separate the classes.

Post: #35

I spent about 3 years doing telemarketing, my words were the only thing I could use to close the deal. Because I was successful, and people generally don't like to part with their money or be told what to do, I believe I have something of value to add to this conversation.

It will be to your benefit not to use bigger words than necessary in conversation, trust me. You're going to be able to click with people better if you follow this advice.

Remember that people, especially women, make choices based on emotion. If you use a word that your audience is unfamiliar with then you will feel the distance between you grow. Appearing smarter, even unintentionally, often causes the other person to feel stupid. They might end up feeling like you're a know-it-all, or dislike you and they themselves are unsure why.

In other words, it makes you come off some kind of way. You want to hit in the middle of spectrum for the best results. Everybody likes The Beatles right? That's because it's not too much of anything so it achieves the widest possible audience who have different musical tastes: You want people to feel that you are relatable.

(01-20-2018 01:35 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  "Pardon my candor..."
"Would it break your heart if... ?"
"I beg your pardon..."
"My condolences..."
"I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight"

These are great examples of "aristocratic" vocabulary, but you may have people wonder if you're fake and they shouldn't trust you, or if you're intentionally trying to make a special impression on them, something that those in power positions may be particularly mindful of watching out for. Hank is a lawyer so that way of speaking makes sense for him to use sometimes, but for most of us, talking like that is going to lose at least an equal number of people it will help gain.

I believe these come across as more genuine by comparison.
"Excuse me, but I have to say..."
"Would it be alright if..."
"Excuse me,"
"I'm sorry to hear that."
"I feel so bad for those people."

It's better to hit in the middle of the spectrum.
You're not working on an essay for your American Lit class.

I do encourage you to choose words that make the other person feel emotion, though tone is often more effective in causing your audience to feel that way that you want them to feel.

As far as tone is concerned in pickup, you want to sound confident, Which means You should communicate a sense of calm through your baseline way of speaking, which communicates strength, as if you're saying "Believe in me, I got this." You can be yourself, but others shouldn't be able to describe your baseline way of speaking as bubbly.

Post: #36

The old school way of sounding higher class, rather than remembering lines, is to simply pick a word or two a week that you come across in your reading, and try to add it to your every day vocabulary naturally.

This way you don't have to worry about if a certain line matches your personality or comes across as incongruent with the rest of your persona.