Post: #1

Hi guys,

This is not one of the looks doesn't matter. I think this debate has settled already.

But what I am asking when I dress really well does this lift up my looks ? I mean does this increase my SMV? I dress very well and I got a lot of eye contacts when I do, I do't have pretty face or body. Because I am so insecure about my looks, I would assume women are only looking at my clothes not me.

What do you think guys?

Post: #2

Does a corvette with a crap paint job look better than one with a nice one? They're both Corvettes right?

Yes. Clothes matter.

Post: #3

This is easy...

- Good clothing. Just pick a "theme" and go with it. Playboy, cowboy, biker, musician, professional, construction worker, whatever. Just pick a congruent style and rock it. I wear suits during the week, and go playboy on the weekends (pastels, khakis shorts, docksiders, chrome watch, etc. I want to look like I just got off a boat in Maine.) If you're taller, you can dress more like an outlaw with leather jackets, tattoos, etc. I can't do that.

- Go tanning. I know, gay. It's like $10 a month at Planet Fatness, I mean Planet Fitness.

- Whiten your teeth. Those whitening strips work fine.

- Lose weight, or beef up. If you're fat, lose weight and then beef up. One way or another, go to the gym.

- If you're balding, shave that shit off. Google old images of Neil Strauss.

- Good haircut. Find a competent barber, and get your hair done every 3 weeks. I pay $30 for my haircut, plus $10 for a beard trim, but it's worth it. I always look well groomed. Shave the neck beard. Bring a comb with you everywhere. I keep a comb in all of my suits / sport coats, plus my briefcase. They are like $1 a piece. Buy a bunch of combs.

I'm 5'5, relatively good looking for my height, but these things all really help.

Post: #4

(01-14-2018 11:52 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  This is easy...

- Good clothing. Just pick a "theme" and go with it. Playboy, cowboy, biker, musician, professional, construction worker, whatever. Just pick a congruent style and rock it. I wear suits during the week, and go playboy on the weekends (pastels, khakis shorts, docksiders, chrome watch, etc. I want to look like I just got off a boat in Maine.) If you're taller, you can dress more like an outlaw with leather jackets, tattoos, etc. I can't do that.

- Go tanning. I know, gay. It's like $10 a month at Planet Fatness, I mean Planet Fitness.

- Whiten your teeth. Those whitening strips work fine.

- Lose weight, or beef up. If you're fat, lose weight and then beef up. One way or another, go to the gym.

- If you're balding, shave that shit off. Google old images of Neil Strauss.

- Good haircut. Find a competent barber, and get your hair done every 3 weeks. I pay $30 for my haircut, plus $10 for a beard trim, but it's worth it. I always look well groomed. Shave the neck beard. Bring a comb with you everywhere. I keep a comb in all of my suits / sport coats, plus my briefcase. They are like $1 a piece. Buy a bunch of combs.

I'm 5'5, relatively good looking for my height, but these things all really help.

Thanks, for your info. Regarding the height, I am 5' 6" myself too. What would you recommend ? Should I go only for girls shorter than me? Have you ever had any insecurities about your height ? How did you handle them ?

Post: #5

I’m 5-9” so on the short side as well. I make sure to max my height by an inch or two by always wearing new dress shoes or boots with a decent heel. Especially in the west where everyone nowadays seems to be 6”+ every bit of height helps...besides new shoes with decent heel look good and improve your stature.

Post: #6

Great post as ever Hank. Key for me is to be congruent. I don't want to fake it till I make it. I own my style and girls that like it are attracted to me. Out of those, I choose the ones I want to fuck or date.

OP, I recommend making the little things Hank mentioned part of your routine. I used to think that was some gay pretty boy shit, but like he says they all help.

And of course how you dress affects how others perceive you. So play to your strengths.

Post: #7

The best advice I got what "just look at guys who get laid and dress the way they dress". You don't have to imitate other guys. Wear what you feel comfortable in and be congruent, but make sure it's still attractive to women.

And like the others said, groom yourself, stay clean etc.

Post: #8

^^ Definitely own your style and confidence, but I would say grooming and hygiene are absolutely the most critical. Not even once do you want to be "the smelly BO guy" or "the nose hair guy". That shit sticks and gets around, even if it only happens that one time.

Post: #9

(01-14-2018 09:10 PM)Mizo1234 Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 11:52 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  This is easy...

- Good clothing. Just pick a "theme" and go with it. Playboy, cowboy, biker, musician, professional, construction worker, whatever. Just pick a congruent style and rock it. I wear suits during the week, and go playboy on the weekends (pastels, khakis shorts, docksiders, chrome watch, etc. I want to look like I just got off a boat in Maine.) If you're taller, you can dress more like an outlaw with leather jackets, tattoos, etc. I can't do that.

- Go tanning. I know, gay. It's like $10 a month at Planet Fatness, I mean Planet Fitness.

- Whiten your teeth. Those whitening strips work fine.

- Lose weight, or beef up. If you're fat, lose weight and then beef up. One way or another, go to the gym.

- If you're balding, shave that shit off. Google old images of Neil Strauss.

- Good haircut. Find a competent barber, and get your hair done every 3 weeks. I pay $30 for my haircut, plus $10 for a beard trim, but it's worth it. I always look well groomed. Shave the neck beard. Bring a comb with you everywhere. I keep a comb in all of my suits / sport coats, plus my briefcase. They are like $1 a piece. Buy a bunch of combs.

I'm 5'5, relatively good looking for my height, but these things all really help.

Thanks, for your info. Regarding the height, I am 5' 6" myself too. What would you recommend ? Should I go only for girls shorter than me? Have you ever had any insecurities about your height ? How did you handle them ?

Shorter girls are actually harder to game than taller girls. It's like they're genetically programmed to want to create taller children.

That said, game whoever you're attracted to.

Personally, I am more attracted to shorter girls. Give me a gal who is 5'1. However, I have found they're more into guys who are tall. I've found gaming short women to be more of a challenge.

Post: #10

Other than cost there is no reason not to look good. As said earlier, anyone can brighten their teeth and a white smile makes you stand out in the sea of yellow. Same goes for tanning if your in the north (or conversely for not tanning in the south). Also, this goes back to MM but, peacocking is a real thing. Give a girl something sparkly or new to catch her eye and trust me it will. Lastly, from your original post, you said you didn't know if girls were looking at you or your clothes, even if it is just your clothes it's better than neither ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Post: #11

Don't shave it at the first sign of balding - check out jude law in around 2003 or 2004 - Norwood 3 but looked great.

Only shave it when you cant style it anymore.

Even look at Roger Federer - receded temples, but still looks good at 35.

Post: #12

Depends on what you wear and how you carry yourself.

This guy is not getting laid (and he be wearing high fashion crap):



This guy however, is getting laid: