Post: #1

This situation can vary slightly depending on which of the two women you talk to first but ultimately, the uglier of the two women will start to cockblock at some point in the set when you are starting to vibe with the attractive woman. How do you handle this situation?

Here, are a couple examples of recent encounters where I have experienced this and am curious how folks here would handle these situations?:

1. I talk to the uglier woman of the two first and after a few minutes switch over to the prettier woman. We start to vibe but once the uglier woman realizes she is not the target, she throws a fit and manufactures some excuse that they need to go somewhere else. However, she is polite and relatively ladylike with her language.

2. This set is technically 2 women and a beta guy. I talk to the uglier woman of the two women first and after a few minutes switch over to the prettier woman. We are talking for a few minutes too before the uglier woman interrupts rudely and says that I am drunk, bragging and a bunch of other wild, false statements but finishing with the other woman is not interested in you. I make the rookie mistake of talking logically with her despite her whole response being emotional and over the top. The beta guy who is apparently trying to get with the uglier woman steps in to support her lie. Obviously, in this case the uglier woman is rude and obnoxious.

I am thinking to deal with these type of situations as follows:

1. For this one, I should try to approach the more attractive woman first but when this is not possible, simply go for the phone close by telling the uglier woman that you would like a couple more minutes to talk with her friend as you like her.

Another alternative could be asking the prettier woman of the two to a dance first (if the venue allows it) and then use that as an opportunity to number close the prettier woman away from the direct line of sight of her friend.

2. I'm still unsure on this one but I am thinking the best course of action is to ignore the uglier woman's complaint and/or laugh it off and keep talking to the pretty woman. If the uglier woman continues interrupting the conversation, you can go on about how the prettier woman can think for herself and it is rude to try to do her thinking for her. Still not sure how best to go about getting her number without having the Mexican standoff.

Post: #2

Talk to them both like you are talking with a buddy of yours, and none will cockblock you. The end goal is to bang, not to get the number. Both of your options will mean no bang.

Big mistake that guys do is when they approach a group of girls, they think that they will swoop their target (normally the prettiest one), but thats not how it works, you have to conquer all of them, change venues, spent a reasonable time with them and giving attention to all, they have to be all lusting for you and your attention. And then, only then, you isolate your target and go for the kill. The other ones will not cockblock you, and will even encourage the girl to go home with the guy.

Post: #3

Rocha dropping some wisdom

Post: #4

(12-18-2017 08:10 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Talk to them both like you are talking with a buddy of yours, and none will cockblock you. The end goal is to bang, not to get the number. Both of your options will mean no bang.

Fair enough, but how long do you go on with the buddy talk (indirect) before going direct with the one you want? Or how exactly does this scenario play out? I am trying to see the steps.

Post: #5

(12-18-2017 08:10 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Talk to them both like you are talking with a buddy of yours, and none will cockblock you. The end goal is to bang, not to get the number. Both of your options will mean no bang.

Big mistake that guys do is when they approach a group of girls, they think that they will swoop their target (normally the prettiest one), but thats not how it works, you have to conquer all of them, change venues, spent a reasonable time with them and giving attention to all, they have to be all lusting for you and your attention. And then, only then, you isolate your target and go for the kill. The other ones will not cockblock you, and will even encourage the girl to go home with the guy.

Ok, thank you. I think I understand your approach better now.

Post: #6

(12-18-2017 08:36 PM)TIOT12 Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 08:10 PM)Rocha Wrote:  Talk to them both like you are talking with a buddy of yours, and none will cockblock you. The end goal is to bang, not to get the number. Both of your options will mean no bang.

Fair enough, but how long do you go on with the buddy talk (indirect) before going direct with the one you want? Or how exactly does this scenario play out? I am trying to see the steps.

Well, you have to be a ninja, wait for when the time is right, keeping the iron hot, all the while floating like a butterfly and then stinging like a bee. In sum, you have to be patient and don't fuck up until you feel is the right time to move to your target. How long depends on the kind of group or the kind of girls.

First of all, numbers are for PUA's and RSD's. I am not here to play around. I am here to bang! So what I can tell is that first drop that mentality of number gathering.

So, when I say talk like you talk to a friend, does not mean buddy talk, means that you have to be calmed, relaxed, witty and playful like if you are hanging out with some guys in a social venue, so getting them drunk, talking about whatever meaningless shit, make some cultural observations if they are foreigner to you, talk about the clubs in town, etc. You dont need to be talking about Trump or sports like you would probably do with the guys. But most important is that you do not show off as an illegal uninvited alien in a group of people, isolating (or trying) someone from the group, that is anti-social and will not get you laid, unless you are 3-4 points above the chick in the SMV scale.

Now, you also should not be a clown entertaining them, that is why you have to filter which sets are good to go. There is an old saying, "tell me with who you hang out with, and I tell you who you are", so this applies to a set of girls, if there is some feminist blue haired, pierced girl in that group or similar, nothing good will come out of it no matter how good you are.

Another thing you have to keep in mind is that if you have wingmans, at some point you also have to start working like a quarterback and distribute game to all of them, that will be even better to help you isolate your prey.

Also, girls have their codes, and many times when they go together to the toillete is to discuss which one will swoop the guy, or at least what will be their strategy, one makes the move and if she senses the guy is interested more in other chick or is not complying to her advances then the other lets herself be swooped...the previous one normally also will get a guy to spend the night with or at least a good time in the bar/club.

Experience is the key. But start from here.

Post: #7

Rocha dropping a lot of knowledge. I have tried the buddy talk to the potential cock blockers, only to fail with the intended target. At times I don't know if I was sending mixed messages to my target bc I spoke too much to her ugly friend.