Post: #26

Solo is great, especially if you repeatedly hit up the same area on the same night over a period of several weeks. Bartenders/Bouncers will know you, you'll meet regulars, etc. Drink LESS than you would normally, I alternate a soft drink for every alcoholic drink.

I'm only really ever "solo" for like 30 minutes tops anyway, and that's only when I'm walking in and out of bars trying to find somewhere I want to park for awhile. I don't buy the whole "getting into a social mood" thing. I intentionally avoid any sort of warm-up because I want to condition myself to be immediately social at any time even after long periods spent in isolation.

If you've got a lot of AA, the best way to condition yourself to solo is to talk to other dudes. You might find some wings this way, but even if not, at least you'll LOOK like you're an interesting person, lol.

Post: #27

I am doing my first solo mission tonight at a hipster bar downtown. Crowd will be my age, which is about early 20s. The only thing I am worried about is the fact that my town is a little small (~pop. 80,000), and you usually see a similar crowd of people at the bars night in, night out. This makes getting blown out a lot more detrimental to your game.

I will also need to control my drinking, although I am told that people usually cannot tell I am drunk even if I happen to be absolutely obliterated.

I'm going to buy a pack of cigarettes for the occasion to try the "smoke break" game.

Post: #28

Honestly, while this is complete conjecture on my part, I'd hazard a guess that many of the concepts taught by PUA's, specifically those related to abundance mentality, probably just cease to function as your town decreases in size.

80,000 people sounds like a fair number, but you might just want to move. No way to get comfortable with solo like making your whole life solo and having to reinvent it.

Post: #29

i was out the other night clubbing and after a while 3 of my mates said they wanted to go to another club as they thought this one was shit. - real reason: they wernt approaching but i was.

they left and i was there on my own for the last hour and found it difficult to approach not knowing that my mates were there to back me up or whatever or if i wasnt approaching.

i made the most of it and tried to approach as much as possible but found myself looking at my fone a lot hich made me look stupid/creepy. i got into a flow eventually but in time il learn. its hard to do but it can be done

Post: #30

The phone thing is ok as long as you're not doing it for 10 minutes at a stretch. Solo works much better when it's really busy somewhere, IMO. If people are falling all over each other to get to the bar, and you get a space at the bar, you can just talk to whoever is waiting for drinks until you find a set to approach, and often as not, they're approaching you (after a fashion) in their attempt to get to the bar.


Best somewhere with TV's also, so you can sit and watch a game while doing this.

Post: #31

I would never go to a club solo but if I think back to when I was younger every week me and my mates would head out to the same club nd it was a big place with various different areas and rooms, I used to always take off by myself and wander round from place to place, talking to people, chatting to girls, hit the dance floor, stand at the bar etc and it never bothered me. I might have well as been alone as I'd only bump into my mates 3-4 times a night and then dissapear from them again shortly after so it's strange why I find the concept of going out solo so alien and intimidating especially when I can do pretty much anything else solo including travelling around the world.

Post: #32

OP, I think it is definitely jumping in at the deep end but will help you progress much quicker. When I first started going out solo I did it because I wanted unbiased feedback about any attraction I was getting from girls. I didn't want any of my success with girls to be dependent on anyone else.

You need to have thick skin in the beginning and take some lumps but think of it all as a learning process and try shit and push the limits. I know that guys will advise to hit the scene early but when you're starting out I think it's better to hit it a little later say 2-3 hours til closing depending on where you live. The bars where I live close at 2 so I would go out at about 11/11:30. It helps you blend into the bigger crowds so you don't feel like you're sticking out.

Post: #33

It's strange to read all this going-dolo anxiety; I started my whole thing solo, mostly for lack of a good wingman but I just never thought I had to go out with people to meet other new people. My first ever number close at a bar was solo.

Even when I'm with a posse of friends, our winging is very informal and there's no awkwardness about one of us leaving the group to mack/isolate/bounce. And there's other times when I'm the only one in my group approaching so I am effectively riding dolo anyway.

Post: #34

i mainly do dance floor game and end up going out solo a lot since most of my friends aren't into the club scene. being at a club solo doesn't feel awkward once you're on the dance floor surrounded by a bunch of people - there's nothing wrong dancing by yourself. go out enough times and rolling solo will bother you less and less. it's social conditioning that makes you think being solo is awkward. it's weird if you feel weird and your body language conveys that to other people. be comfortable by yourself and you'll be fine. it just takes awhile to get past the stigma of being in a public venue alone. check out this dude's post on dancing solo: flirt2thebeat.com/2009/04/23/dancing-by-yourself/

Post: #35

(10-02-2011 08:40 AM)NightWolf Wrote:  I consider myself a noob in the game, but now I go out solo at night all the time and it is so much easier to socialize than when I go out with a wing. I have worked my inner game a lot with hypnosis audio so that I feel composed and totally comfortable going to a place where people are with friends (no cell phone fidgeting, etc...).

Agree with OGNorCal707's post: important to maintain good, manly body language but not rigid either.

Just being on my own and relaxed gets me an average of 2 girl cold approaches per night: nothing crazy, usually 7-8ish girls. My point is that if a girl likes your looks, you are more approachable when you are alone.

Which hypnosis CD's do you use?

Post: #36

Just got back from going solo. Didn't have much success. Went to a different venue, gothic style and I'm pretty conservative looking. My main issue was I just didn't have much energy and drank a lot. I think I need to wank less frequently (like only once a week to get my sex drive to level 11) and some how get my energy level higher. If I sit down, I tend to stay seated. The only way I know of doing this is exercise so far. I ended up talking to a paranoid schizophrenic dude, who believe he was some raa guy and there were multiple assasination attempts on his life. Interesting conversation to say the least. And this stripper I was talking to earlier (and hinted she wanted me to pay for some dance), came up to him, and he starts going all "your gorgeous" like a direct beta game. The stripper said he was too, and was mentioning to meet her next week to this guy. Not sure what to make of that right now since I'm still buzzed from the vodka shots. Maybe she was trying to get a reaction out of me?

Post: #37

Was reading roissy's latest article about aging strippers and thought that this stripper might have been trying to game me for money. Hopefully with more experience I will be able to get stuff out of them. This was younger than me though.

Post: #38

(10-21-2011 01:30 AM)kbell Wrote:  Went to a different venue, gothic style

what was it like?

i can imagine the chicks would be into some freaky shit...

Post: #39

At least 5 days a week they have a show going on at this place. They cover rock, goth, metal, burlesque and fetish. So basically its like a bunch of art school students congregating in a genre bar. I went to an art college so I'm used to the crowd. You don't have to dress like them either. Prices are kind of high for booze, and there usually is a steep cover of 7 to 15. Although I think Tuesdays has a free karoakee night. I will have to check that out. Age ranges from early 20s to up 70. Although majority are quite young to 30ish. I'm Irish looking so I stand out more than I do at my usual irish pubs I would attempt to game. Its usually easier to open too. When I get a job I will have to go more often to become a regular and learn more about the type of people that come for the different shows. There is another place like it down around the state college university. That should have a younger crowd but they might be more fun to talk too as well. The stripper I was talking to had a spectacular ass and was only wearing a thong and tiny bikini. Lots of corsettes too.

I also went during burlesque night where they were dressed up like 1940s pinups. With titty tassels!

Post: #40

(10-17-2011 06:42 PM)Vaquero Wrote:  I know that guys will advise to hit the scene early but when you're starting out I think it's better to hit it a little later say 2-3 hours til closing depending on where you live. The bars where I live close at 2 so I would go out at about 11/11:30. It helps you blend into the bigger crowds so you don't feel like you're sticking out.

This is not good advice. As always, make sure you listen to Uncle Roosh. I have never been led astray by Roosh's advice.

If you hit a bar late, yeah you won't "stick out" as much (or at all), but all the good spots will be taken. The bar will be packed and you will wind up milling about moving around too much to take advantage of "magic times."

Here is the truth: unless you are jumping around like a douche hitting on every girl in the bar, no one really gives a shit if you roll dolo. No one. In fact, when I roll dolo, I often get more interaction with random people than when I go with a wing/crew. Why? Because people are reluctant to barge in on groups but they are more than willing to talk to or ask something to a person who is dolo. I have had sloppy drunk girls try to make out with me when I am dolo, I have had retards ask me how to get to a bar that is across the street from where I am at when I am dolo, I get more chatter from bar staff when I am dolo, etc, etc, etc...

The main reason I don't like going dolo all the time isn't because of feeling weird. The reason I don't always like to roll dolo all the time is because it is not as fun as rolling with a wing or crew.