Post: #1

Usually at the beach you can find girls by themselves, so no point talking to pairs or threes.


But if there's only 2 groups, one a pair of women, the other a group of three woment should I talk to them?

What if the hot one is the quiet one? How should I get her number? Wouldn't it be rude not to get the talkative one's number?

Post: #2

Your question boils down to "should I talk to women or not?"

Obviously the answer is yes. Anyway you can't always approach only solo chicks so you best build the skill of working a group sooner rather than later.

This should be easy. "Have y'all been in the water yet? Is it cold?" "Looks like a day for some heavy beach reading." "You want to throw this frisbee with me?" With the group of 3, you could pick one off (read: isolation) to go get drinks and bring them back to the other two; less likely with the group of 2 that one will leave the other alone.

"How should I get her number?"

Don't begin with the end in mind. Talk to them and see if any of them are interested in your vibe.

Your better bet is to go get food with the group or otherwise insta-hangout.

"Wouldn't it be rude not to get the talkative one's number?"

What's "polite" is irrelevant. You don't owe these girls anything. If you're getting numbers to meet up for lays (1-on-1), get the number of the girl you're more interested in or otherwise think is the more sure thing (if a girl is talkative she's probably interested so you should view her as a surer bet). If you're getting numbers for social-circle purposes, get the number of the girl more friendly to you or more likely to be a connector into a group of interesting people/hot girls.

Post: #3

Get used to women traveling in groups. Very few women go out alone in public. I am not sure if it is a primal urge to be in a group as to ward off hazards, or that they are just more social than men. Either way most women do not go out alone. Your best group is where there is at least one more girl than guy ratio, which usually means that one girl is available.

Having said that, the basic strategy is:

1: determine the dynamics of the group i.e. find the talkative one and talk with her
2: demonstrate that you are worth talking to
3: get the group comfortable with you
4: figure out who is interested in you
5: and than try to close with the girl interested

Worst case scenario is that they will reject you outright. Even if you close with the one who is less attractive, assuming that both girls meet your standards, you have now social proofed yourself with the group. Unless this is a pack of girls that have a serious hoes before bros mentality, you may be able to start cheating with the hotter one before you break-up with the first girl that you dated.

Post: #4

No secret really.

Only way I learned was to go in hard and get a ton of awful rejections.

Eventually, I became more numb to it and could calibrate. Like mentioned above, target the more talkative one and go from there.

I've literally switched attention to another girl in the group when I could sense nothing was going to happen with the current one in a reasonable time frame.

Now it's more of an adrenaline rush and skill challenge. You'd be surprised by how group dynamics can work out in your favor.

Post: #5

The difficulty in approaching groups comes from the fact that girls judge each other so harshly.

I suggest you pursue the leader of the group, she might be the only one not worried about judgement from her peers. She might even use the opportunity to make them jealous.

Watch out, a common shit test is if she tries to push one of her lower level friends at you, don't take the subordinate girl. How do you think being seen by the group taking the lower value girl will influence the way they see you? How do you think they will perceive your value if you deny the low value girl to go after the leader?

Post: #6

Approaching girls in groups is a must. Be ready to deal with any of the girls to have her bitch shield up. I well delivered neg will usually take care of it, but be careful not to be too harsh or you'll come off like a dick and get blown out. I disagree with some of the advice you're being given here.

Try talking to the least attractive of the group first. This accomplishes two things: 1. The least attractive girl is usually the one that's going to put up the most resistance to you being there because she's worried you're just trying to hook up with her pretty friend (which you are, but by talking to the uglier of the two you disarm her bitch shield). 2. It'll make the pretty girl jealous and confused why you're not talking to her.
If there are men in the group, you absolutely must talk to them otherwise they'll feel disrespected by your approach, so make sure to include them in the conversation.

You'll actually become surprised how hard it is to be rudely rejected because the majority of people are taught to be polite. Try to talk about something that does not have anything to do with sex or could be construed as a come-on. Ask for an opinion on some topic or dilemma you're having--chicks love to talk and give opinions.

Don't forget to use a false time constraint. Tell them you only have a couple minutes because you're meeting a friend or something. This kid of assures them that you're not going to hang out too long and be annoying. It also gives you the perfect reason to excuse yourself if/when the conversation starts to lag. Asa long as you don't make an ass of yourself, you can always go back later.

Post: #7

(11-26-2017 05:37 AM)Treatmentgroup Wrote:  Usually at the beach you can find girls by themselves, so no point talking to pairs or threes.


But if there's only 2 groups, one a pair of women, the other a group of three woment should I talk to them?

What if the hot one is the quiet one? How should I get her number? Wouldn't it be rude not to get the talkative one's number?

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