Post: #1

So the last time I went up trying to 'pick up' women:

1) I remember there was a beautiful Indian lady and I said "excuse me, I just saw you and just had to say hello to you" which she replied "hello with a smile" I then said "what are up to" and she said "going home" then I didn't know what else to say after that. She was smiling a lot.

2) There was also a very beautiful english female, most defintely a 9, she was waiting at a very large, busy train station I said:

Me: I just saw you and just had to say hello to you
Her: Smiles and says hello
Me: What are you doing?
Her: I'm waiting for my train
Me: So tell me more about yourself?
Her: I study english at university (smiles)
Me: I can't remember what I said after this, but the conversation did go on and she ended up saying I've got a boyfriend.

With this beautiful English female, I suprised at the start she didn't say "I've got a boyfriend". If I carried on the conversation better, I would have got her number, she was so pretty.

With the other beautiful females I tried to approach some of them just blew me out, it can be nerve wrecking approaching beautiful females.

Post: #2

I assume you would know how to do a conversation with regular people. Basically do the same but make it interesting/sexual/fun.

If they are particularly "beautiful" you can and should game/neg harder because they have the self-esteem to take it.

If the anxiety/nerve rackingness is a big deal try to practice being mindful, maybe meditate, but say to yourself it's not a big deal to do it and be "in the zone" and don't think about it too much.

When the girl inevitably says she has a boyfriend say something like I don't want to be your boyfriend.

Post: #3

Thank you very much for your reply and advice.

Can you give examples of how I can game/neg harder?

Thanks

Post: #4

Not going to sugarcoat it - approach anxiety is a real thing most of us have gone through, you gotta face that fear and do it when it's nerve-wracking instead of thinking there will be a way to make yourself not nervous. I have two friend who are highly accomplished players who tell me they still get very nervous, but have personal "rules" to push through it and approach. Their results speak for themselves.

One thing to keep in mind here is that lots of people are boring, and that can especially be true for attractive women who are not accustomed to providing conversational energy themselves (people are always interested in them so others provide the energy). It's easy to beat yourself up about not keeping a conversation going, but you can't control her response, you can only give her an opportunity to respond to you; in time your mindset will shift to "pfffft, this woman is passing on her chance to chat with an interesting attractive guy."

Post: #5

Interactions should not be outcome based. Some girls will want to chat, some won't. If you approach it from trying to get an outcome, it comes off as contrived.

Casual conversation is about making statements, asking basic questions, and answering her questions with questions...

"What are you doing?"
"Going home."
"On this train? I don't believe you. You look like you're from [wherever]."
"Really? Why would you think that?"
"Your shoes."
"What about my shoes makes you think I'm from [wherever]?"
"Am I wrong?"
"Yes, I'm from [somewhere else.]"
"Oh? Have you ever been to [restaurant in somewhere else?]"
"Yeah, I love Steak House!"
"It's terrible."
"What, why do you think that?"
"What do you like about it?"

Anytime her response jams you up, just say something that has nothing to do with the prior topic or make a statement. Get her to invest in the conversation and ask you questions. Statements typically have that effect. Answer questions with questions. Keep her talking.

Never talk about yourself, and make her talk about herself.