Post: #26

Almost everybody smokes in Paris or you can see people smoking. That said, people don't necessarly smoke 5 cigarettes a day, maybe one or 2 max when they go out at night.

That said...milf and older girls in France look much better and thin than their equivalent in America..

Post: #27

This is tough because I'm a regular smoker myself. In order to avoid hypocrisy, I want to say it doesn't bother me, but in my dating history, the girls that smoked weren't of the highest quality.

Girls have definitely given me shit for smoking that don't do it themselves. I've never really given a girl shit for it though. On one end, I'd feel less bad about smoking and have more freedom to do it with one that does too. On the other hand, dating a girl that doesn't smoke is usually better quality and I have more reason to cut down.

Post: #28

I like some girls who smoke. There's something impossibly sultry and bewitching about a beautiful girl who really knows how to smoke for effect. It adds to their general insouciance and I find it all the more enraging. Not all girls of course, and not all beautiful girls - certainly not one you'd want to keep - but for a select few, for a particularly hot and consuming, if brief, romance then smoking only enhances a certain type of girl's allure to me.

Post: #29

Absolute deal breaker for me. Even for a ONS, if she smokes cigarettes I'm kicking her out.

Vape and weed are still a grey area for me, as I do occasionally smoke weed considering it's legal in my state. Generally the more a girl smokes these, the more likely she is to be a ONS only.

Post: #30

I don't like smokers at all, but on occasions when I met Miss ultra hot and she was down, I wasn't going to walk away because she wanted to smoke, I just told her to go outside when she got to my house. Then made it so inconvenient for her to smoke, she basically stopped doing it around me.

Post: #31

Not very clean, I prefer girls who are healthier wear yoga pants and eat vegetables, preferably weed.

Post: #32

(10-30-2017 07:08 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  I'm a bit of a health nut. I am horrible to eat out with - "Does that have sugar in it? Is it fried? Can I order it without the bread and sub a side salad instead? Dessert? I'd rather just have a double espresso... black. Cheese? Um, no. Can you put all the dressing on the side?"

So, the other night I have a new plate over at my house. We're cooking and all is well. Then this...

"Do you have a lighter?"
"Yeah, I have one in my cigar humidor. It's in the bar. Actually, I have several." (I do smoke cigars and have tons of cool lighters)
"Do you mind if I use one?"
"Sure... okay..."

I'm thinking she's going to light up a joint (not my thing, but whatever), or maybe one of those stupid vape pens. (Do they take lighters? I don't know. Again, not my thing.)

She goes out back and lights up a cigarette. As the night goes on, she smokes several of them.

Now her breath is hot, and I'm not really interested in making out. I tell her that I have some work stuff in the morning and that I can't really hang out much longer.

Bear in mind she's pretty a hot - a solid 8 but a bit older than I'm used to in her late 30s (looks mid 20s). I start to notice that her voice is a bit raspy. Otherwise, all is well, and I enjoy hanging out with her. But the smoking thing...

What is your opinion on girls who smoke? I'm kind of thinking it's a deal breaker.

Smoking is a young man's(woman's) game. It's one thing if the girl is a young hot stripper in her early 20's. The smoking hasn't caught up to her as she's still young but girls smoking past late 20's gets nasty real fast unless they are a just a social smoker on some weekend nights when drinking then it's not too bad. But if a girl is smoking 7 days a week it adds fast.

Post: #33

My observations...

Girls who are in their 20s can smoke here and there and it's whatever.

Older girls who smoke...

- Have raspy voices
- Are not athletic
- Don't understand money management
- Breath smells
- Teeth are yellow
- Display masculine traits (i.e., like tattoos)

Maybe here and there in Parisian culture, but in America?

It's like they're trying to be men.

Post: #34

Bad teeth can really take an 8 to a 6. A lot of those EE chicks are like that. They smoke too many cigs and their teeth have turned to shit.