Post: #1

I know Roosh has said if you feel crappy don't go out, but what if the reason you feel crappy is that you don't have the options you want with women?

I'm trying to decide if it's better to just go out regardless of how I feel, or if I should only go out if I'm not feeling down.

Either way could lead to an amplification of the problem. Going out with bad inner game / depression can only give you more failure, which leads to less confidence. Yet staying home and not getting any practice won't build you out of the rut either.

Post: #2

I think you've answered your own question right there.

"but what if the reason you feel crappy is that you don't have the options you want with women?"

Well it's a kind of vicious circle isn't. If you're not going out because you're feeling crappy, yet the reason you're feeling crappy is because of your frustration with the women in your life, then the only way to fix this IS to go out.

There comes a time for every man in the game who wants to progress and really get good at this shit and he goes to war.

By this I mean you go out in the trenches, approach, learn, come home analyse and get better and keep the hunger for the next time. You may come home empty handed, but the goal is long term and Rome wasn't built in a day. Do you think Rangers like doing Ranger school? Definitely not but the end aim is to get the Ranger badge and become a Ranger.

Post: #3

Fuck how you feel. The only way you are ever going to get options with women is to get out there and talk to them. Don't let your feelings control you. The only way you will ever overcome those feelings is to take action against them. Your feelings are just a bunch of chemical reactions inside your brain. Your own will power and desire can override these chemicals. Get out there and do it. I don't feel like going to work everyday, I don't feel like chasing girls everyday, I don't feel like working out everyday, but I do those things because I know that I need to in order to become the man that I want to be. Feelings are for girls.

Take your learning lessons like a man and grow stronger from them. Or live forever as a coward. Your choice.

Post: #4

Those are good words.. thanks.

It's just lately I've been going out and finding myself saying "None of these girls are hot enough for me to approach," or "My inner vibe is too dark right now to approach.. I'm in creepy mode."

Post: #5

Approach even in 'creepy mode' and approach the ugly girls just for practice. You don't need to make out with them, just practice opening and having a conversation.

Been there, done that.

You must think of the results in the long run.

Also, learn to distinguish between those moments when you are not going out because you are wussing out from those when you are genuinely needing a break to rest and recompose yourself. Very big difference.

Post: #6

Inner game is one of the main focuses of game. I think the one thing you have to remember is to have fun and it doesn't matter what the out come is. The goal when someone goes outside should be "lets have fun and talk to girls" instead of "I am going to pick up all the girls today". If a person does not have abundance and he is trying to pick up girls out of desperation; girls can see it and it will never work. As for approaching with "shitty" inner game, do not add resistance to resistance. What I mean by that is this. If you are approaching and you have inner game troubles; telling your brain "I feel like shit today... shit .. shit ..s hit" then you are further adding resistance to the already bad inner game that you might be facing that day. Instead accept that you are feeling bad today and that you are going to do approaches anyways, and in that sense your inner game will be better without you even noticing. After 4 or 5 approaches you might want to approach some more!

Post: #7

I've approached girls while feeling like an anti-social faggot... and guess what, the girls can't tell what the fuck you're feeling nor do they care. As long as you force yourself to approach, everything else is irrelevant.

Post: #8

This is, without a doubt, the hardest thing for me also. That being said, sometimes I completely pull out of the tailspin with a lucky approach, and, well, sometimes I go home feeling worse than I did before I left. Doing things that make you feel good can really set the stage for a successful night. If I am studying all day, I am completely NOT in the mood to go out and put my nose to the grindstone, but if I go work out or beat on the heavy bag for a while, the endorphins never fail to catapult me into a confident/sociable mood. I think Roosh talks about watching Seinfeld but that doesn't really work for me, but of course, everyone is different. It's tough: there's no question about it. I am definitely the biggest obstacle to my own success. Stay in the fight, brother; you're not in trenches alone.

Post: #9

(09-11-2011 03:19 AM)soup Wrote:  I know Roosh has said if you feel crappy don't go out, but what if the reason you feel crappy is that you don't have the options you want with women?

I'm trying to decide if it's better to just go out regardless of how I feel, or if I should only go out if I'm not feeling down.

Either way could lead to an amplification of the problem. Going out with bad inner game / depression can only give you more failure, which leads to less confidence. Yet staying home and not getting any practice won't build you out of the rut either.

I have to say I've never regretted doing approaches even when I feel crappy. Sometimes they don't have much value, but at least opening and trying to chat with her makes me feel I'm keeping up with the competition.

But Roosh makes a good point, if you feel shitty don't do it. Now that I approach a lot, I can take a night off if I don't feel like gaming and it's fine. Back in the day, I would talk myself out of approaching so it was a regular habit. If you're approaching on the regular, don't beat yourself up over a day off. If you're not, push through it.