Post: #51

I had heard about The Game years before and kinda just dismissed it as douchebaggery. Fast forward years later and I’m living in Tokyo. Chicks ask me if I know who Julien Blanc is? Uh no. So I start watching his shanigans and find out about online game community. Thankfully that died down and six months later you could approaches and not get randomly white knighted. But I’ve still felt it occasionally when making out with a girl and some fat white girl that no one wants comes over and goes into all that bullshit. What he did was bad but most people with lives forget about it rather quickly. There’s still a small subset of expats and locals who don’t and get bitter and resentful towards every young foreigner guy they see getting a local girl.

Post: #52

Guys tend to fish with dynamite in asia and it's not necessary. There is no reason to run mega hardline game here. The good part about that is you get more used to a normal dating flow, but the bad thing is that you start "forgetting" a lot of your advanced tactics for banging western sloots 101 shit.

Some guys come here and apply that stuff and it just leaves a bad impression with locals.

There is no reason that 99% of RVF men can apply discretion and subtle but DB can't.

Get your 1-2 date bangs, slowly cut the girl off and move on.


You don't need to have Indonesian authorities up in your shit. If that happens, don't ask me for help and don't claim you have game.

Dudes forget this, but a big part of having game is having massive plausible deniability. All the consummate players I know don't act like players even though they're the hardest players in the room.

Hide your fucking power level, Goku.

Post: #53

(10-10-2017 07:24 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Dudes forget this, but a big part of having game is having massive plausible deniability. All the consummate players I know don't act like players even though they're the hardest players in the room.

Hide your fucking power level, Goku.

Relevant to this, /thread-42361.html

Post: #54

(10-10-2017 07:12 PM)Ouroboros Wrote:  I find it incredible that people keep complaining about the supposedly growing antipathy towards the white male in SEA. Granted I only spent a few weeks in Indonesia (although I've gamed plenty of Asian girls studying in my country), but I (as an young white male of average looks) encountered none of this - girls are infinitely easier to bed than in the West, and there was no cockblocking from the men (some guys even invited me and the girl I was with one night to their table and bought us drinks - strangers would never spontaneously do that in my home city).

Maybe if you're particularly old, ugly or fat things have gotten harder, and perhaps you can't get away with cringeworthy anti-game (why would you do this anyway? The great thing about Asian girls is that they don't need Western clown game, you can just act normal and confident). That's just too bad. No one should be complaining that in order to get results you have to avoid dressing like a slob, avoid being obese, and have basic social awareness, discretion and politeness - the fact that this works at all with Asian girls is a blessing, because it will get you nowhere in the West.

On the topic of this thread: Churros hit the nail on the head - discretion is all important. Being indiscrete is anti-game with Asian girls. Broadcasting one's conquests (or attempts) does no good to anyone.

You're implying there is no such thing as an increased antipathy towards white male in SEA because you visited Indonesia once and didn't experience it there.

Post: #55

(10-09-2017 11:37 PM)Fortis Wrote:  I originally had a long post that got deleted when my internet dropped. Shame.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that it's very easy to write this off as "lololol why are you guys so jelly of david bond!" but that is laughably inaccurate and I think many of the guys saying things like that have never been to asia.

There seems to be a bit of contention around the idea of locals taking revenge. The revenge might not come in the form of a stabbing but it may come in the form of local legislation that forces foreign drinking establishments out of business and things like that. The Chinese, in particular, are not above such things if they think visitors are getting unruly.

I could rattle off 10 china players who could be affected by the actions of a character like David Bond. THey poison the well for us. I have many stories about foreigners doing these sorts of things over the last two years and we have felt it.

Shenzhen has many locally-hosted pool parties that we are not invited to. Why?

Foreigners fuck girls in the public pools and don't get invited back. This also cuts into the business of the foreign establishment who was hosting the alcohol for the events and everything.

This is not just some dude having fun and a bunch of guys being jealous. We're a player community FFS. I could name at least 5 dudes in China right now that you all know who pull better quality than David Bond without fucking it all up for everyone else.

Bottomline: you don't have to act like a buffoon to get laid in places like China. Actually, acting like a normal guy gets you further with hotter girls. There is no jealousy here, just concern that someone is fucking up a good thing for us in the long run. Some of us do live here long-term and it sucks seeing some moron burn shit down for us.

There is a reason guys don't share as much as we would all like to. No one wants a David bond running up in their favorite bar or club and making foreigners look bad. I know I don't.

Hey ya'll. I think there was a really large piece of information that has led me to reconsider my position here. This dude is EVERYWHERE apparently he was on the news in Indeonsia. I had 2 girls post about him that I dated from Jakarta, one of which i'm going on a trip with to Vietnam later this month.

Certainly this is not good news having some white dude like that on the news.

But still, I don't really feel anger towards this David Bond in particular. I mean really with it being so much easier to pull from tinder game in places like Jakarta or Bangkok its just a matter of time till some character like this guy shows up and posts it online. The thing is usually people aren't paying attention. But when some dude goes on a white knight vendetta like that British dude it most def poisons the well.

Dudes going to se asia to get laid isn't anything new. Some dickhead causing controversey in his quest to "bang muslim girls" isn't any new news either. I mean this goes way far back, I dunno if you guys remember that "Tucker Max" character he wrote lots of blog posts about his sexcapades and things like that in Jakarta way back in like 2006 or something like that, he caused a lot of controversy. Guess what, chicks are still out there really eager to meet foreign dudes. Funny enough the girls that are all upset about this guy from what i've seen are the girls that are the most on the cock carosel.

I think the majority of girls understand that not all dudes are sex tourists and I don't really think thats much changed. Every so often some "pickup" guy comes along and causes a bunch of controversy in some foreign country. Then the local girls (the same ones on tinder lookign for foreign guys) suddenly fake indignation on their social media and amongst their friends etc etc, then life goes on and nothing changes. After all their fake anger settles they still need a knob to shlob on.

As far as China goes its never been an easy place to pull, the first time I LIVED in China was a study aborad trip all the way back in 2004, was hard then, was hard in 2010, 2012, 2014, and today. Its more a culture and a gender imbalance more then some choad getting called out for making out with chicks in a Turban in Jakarta or whatever suddenly is "fucking everything up" for all your friends.

That being said this is why its good to be discreet in the first place. You go around posting all your shit, its all fun and games until some guy calls you out on it and you fuck things up for everyone else, albeit temporarily.

TL;DR - It will still be easy to get laid in SE Asia until the end of days, simply because there is just a huge oversupply of young girls looking to meet a handsome young lads who have their shit together. Life goes on this doesn't change anything.

P.P.S. That british dude who called him out is the biggest whiteknight turdnozzle i've ever seen in my life, watching his fake indignation in hopes that this video will land him a quality girl makes me want to vomit.

Post: #56

No idea why OP calls him instantly sex tourist.

A sex tourist is in my opinion only a pure P4P simp.

That guy just does what Roosh had done in the past and still does in a way via his books. The level and degree of skills vary between the guys out there since we don't have universities teaching Game and Red Pill. Also - even if we had that then the skill level would vary - doctors come also in huge variations of skill and ability and this despite years of rigorous school and training.

So don't hate this guy. He does his own thing and that's all.

This Jezebel-kind witch-hunt is unnecessary.

However - David Bond - you should reconsider putting up the girls' faces online - especially in countries like Indonesia this is not a good idea. Better to completely render their faces for her own safety and privacy. That way you can stay out of the negative news and also limit the repercussions to the girls' lives.

Post: #57

(10-10-2017 08:26 PM)Svoboda Wrote:  You're implying there is no such thing as an increased antipathy towards white male in SEA because you visited Indonesia once and didn't experience it there.

No, I'm implying that the alleged hostility towards the white male, in Indonesia at least, is grossly overstated. While there may be some kind of seething undercurrent of resentment towards Westerners lurking beneath the surface, imperceptible to the casual visitor, it has no significant effect on gaming girls. Whatever they're thinking on the inside (and I'm not going to make any assumptions there), the people are very friendly to foreigners.

Yes, my opinion is based on my own brief experience there. Although it's subjective and constrained by a limited sample size, I will still take what I experience and observe in real life over the opinions of strangers on an anonymous internet forum, as I'm sure you would too. There is no reason to believe that what I experienced was in any way anomalous. And I don't think you need to visit a country multiple times, or accumulate months of experience there, before making an assessment of how easy the girls are, or how members of your demographic are treated in that country/city. This is basic stuff that requires no deep cultural or linguistic understanding.

Post: #58

Just watched a few of his videos. How is this guy any different than Justin Wayne or the other PUA Youtube guys? I also feel that, just like Wayne, the girls he "meets" in his infield videos are actually paid actors so they really don't care if he films their faces. The only real difference is that this guy operates in Asia instead of the U.S. unlike the other so-called gurus. So I do think labeling this guy a sex-tourist is a bit extreme (and a total HuffPo/Jez move), my only gripe is that it's negative publicity and hurts those of us who actually do travel to SEA.

Post: #59

(10-11-2017 08:29 AM)Dirtyblueshirt Wrote:  Just watched a few of his videos. How is this guy any different than Justin Wayne or the other PUA Youtube guys? I also feel that, just like Wayne, the girls he "meets" in his infield videos are actually paid actors so they really don't care if he films their faces. The only real difference is that this guy operates in Asia instead of the U.S. unlike the other so-called gurus. So I do think labeling this guy a sex-tourist is a bit extreme (and a total HuffPo/Jez move), my only gripe is that it's negative publicity and hurts those of us who actually do travel to SEA.

I was thinking of the "paid actress" angle too, because he approached random girls in Thailand and they all speak English. When I was in Thailand, meeting a woman who speaks English was rare.

Post: #60

Just watched a couple of his videos. Most of the girls he is with are either ugly or trashy or have "bargirl" written all over their faces. This is also consistent with the venues he shows in his videos: Levels, Insanity, Khaosan. He seems to spend a lot of time in Bangkok and yet he barely knows anything about culture or language.

Post: #61

(10-16-2017 12:34 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  Just watched a couple of his videos. Most of the girls he is with are either ugly or trashy or have "bargirl" written all over their faces. This is also consistent with the venues he shows in his videos: Levels, Insanity, Khaosan. He seems to spend a lot of time in Bangkok and yet he barely knows anything about culture or language.

I agree I watched many videos so I could pick up things. But I just had good laughs.

He is mostly with girls who are 3,4 or 5s. Other than these, I am sure he did not pay anything but I also noticed some girls who are covered with tattoos and they were apparently bargirls. I saw only ONE cute girl other than Nicky. Just lol. banging 4s and putting on youtube is just funny. Though I think he bangs hot girls when he was not carrying a cam. Well at least I hope he does. If he can't honestly I am not hating but can you really see these girls as success? I am just considering their beauty tough if they are smart etc. I don't know about that.

Post: #62

Why so much hate for this guy?

Isn't that why most of you are here? To live similar lives? That's kind of the theme of this site...

Travel, bang and earn online.

I know that's most of the reason why I'm here.

Post: #63

Honestly, I commiserate with Bond's situation.

God forbid one of you guys is ever on the receiving end of a witch hunt. It's a horror show, the consequences of which far exceed whatever slights you've committed, whether they be real, imagined or completely fabricated by bullshit outlets like Coconuts (which, I can only gather from their content, is selling their souls to the devil by trying to turn SEA into another feminist cesspool in exchange for ad revenue).

However, @David: discretion is indeed a virtue...

And not only in game but equally so in protecting you and your loved ones from scrutiny and outright hostility. Think of them too. I'm almost positive there are cases of dudes posting much more innocuous stuff than you and getting doxxed to the fuckhouse for it, although I don't know any off the top of my head.

So you made some off color jokes with the girl and some people don't like your style. Ok it is what it is. You can't be liked by everybody. But your need to film and publicize your activities now put a huge crosshairs on your back, and it's all under your real name. Not good.

I also want to say that I'm in no way pointing my finger at you. I've already been through this myself.

And it's not even a fraction of what Roosh has gone through and continues to go through. I was fortunate enough to be able to pull out of that space before it did irreversible damage to my life and my advice to you - take it or leave it - would be to do the same.

Post: #64

(09-09-2018 10:13 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  God forbid one of you guys is ever on the receiving end of a witch hunt. It's a horror show, the consequences of which far exceed whatever slights you've committed, whether they be real, imagined or completely fabricated by bullshit outlets

Very true. I use a VPN to log in to RooshVForum and I go to a lot of effort to hide personal details about my life to make it more difficult to dox me.

This "Let's dox and shame people who do not tow the SJW line" game the radical left plays is downright fascist. To quote Slate Star Codex

Slate Star Codex Wrote:the person signal-boosting you has much wider reach than you do. There are now tens of thousands of people in the world who know you only as the guy who said that one embarassing thing one time. For that matter, anyone who Googles you will know you only as the guy who said that one embarassing thing one time. All of your triumphs, all of your defeats, all your loves and fears and follies – none of these exist in the public mind. If you cross a blogger, a columnist, or a Twitter celebrity, all that will exist is that you once retweeted a racist joke on the 26th of March, 2014.

"signal-boost" here means when some liberal or SJW outfit uses their audience to amplify something you said out of context to make you look like a horrible person. Think Justine Sacco. Think what happened to Roosh, who was called "pro rape" for a satire piece he wrote being quoted out of context. Think Naughty Nomad.

I know damn well there are skeletons in my closet from a long time ago which would make me unemployable if they ever became public, especially since we're in a day and age where SJWs attack people for things they did 20 or 40 years ago, heck they attacked Tom Brokaw for trying to kiss a girl 50 years ago (I wish I was making that up). Let's not pretend what happened to Steven Mapel could not happen to any of us. Because it could.

Post: #65

What you guys are missing, is 'David Bond' has turned something many of us live in fear of, into a business that generates him hundreds of thousands of dollars.

He owns them, not the other way around.

He has the frame.

I like the guy. His combination of brain and balls is a rare occurrence amongst us humans.

Post: #66

How do you know he's pulling down hundreds of thousands of dollars? That's quite a figure for a low-tier PUA to be pulling down.

Post: #67

^ He must have meant hundreds OR thousands of dollars.

Post: #68

PUA industry is not that profitable - RSD makes millions, Street Attraction copied that business model just with far superior Game teachings (which they admitted to copying from Nick Krauser, but at least gave Nick lots of free advertising).

The only other super-sales happened in the past with some books and software. There was one guy who made tens of millions 10+ years ago with lots of clickbait advertising, but that won't fly anymore.

You can make a living nowadays, but only very few make decent cash.

Some have simply begun to teach wealthy young and older guys private coachings which can net you a good coin, but of course has it's downsides. I heard from some who offer a personalized approach to trust-fund newbies - pay me 4k/month plus all traveling expenses and we travel somewhere and I teach you Game in 2-3 weeks. This is actually not so bad if the guy has some game and has approached thousands before with some success.