Post: #26

Wente is one of the few if only balanced female writers in local papers.

She sided with Men numerous times before, calling out hypocrisy related to the Jian Ghomeshi for example....

Post: #27

When places like Toronto and California are stopped from infesting the minds of other women you can probably talk about damage control but until then, be very wary.

Post: #28

I've always thought that one of the best use cases for Bitcoin and blockchain in genera is asset protection in he event of an attempted divorce rape.

If bitcoin or another blockchain asset becomes identical and as stable as cash and investment grade assets can be tied to digital blockchain based contracts you can bet your ass all my money will be on it and completely out of reach. I'd be thrown in jail or out of the country far away before some judge can take my hard earned shit by giving up my private keys to my wallets.

ACCESS DENIED BITCH.

Post: #29

More & more I'm liking this idea of being a "Shopenhauer Sage".

Post: #30

(09-24-2017 12:15 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  Women who are 6 think they are 9.

Post: #31

(09-24-2017 10:00 AM)Vaun Wrote:  This article entirely blames men. She makes a very thin, laughable argument that the only reason men needed women for is sex. Sex has been available to men from the beginning of time.

Men married and marry women now for support. To multiply their resources by helping to create a happy, stable home, with healthy off spring. To assist them men as they go out and slay dragons, build empires, or even just pick up trash.


Lady, its not just sex.

Exactly...but, to be fair, there is some element of that present. Women aren't the only ones who've bought wholesale into the pipe dream of the urban, sexually promiscuous, unattached person that in reality only works out for the extremely wealthy and/or famous.

What doesn't get talked about much on this forum (understandably, since it is a men's group) but probably should get mentioned since it effects us is how badly these changes have impacted women's sex lives......in particular the ones that actually do want to get married. The good women I've known have felt enormous frustration in that area and a pervading fear that if they don't put out right away then any guy they're interested in will just ditch them for one of the overwhelming majority of men who will.

It is enormously difficult for the women who do want to stay virgins. They have to deal with the ridicule of peers (were constant rumors going around my wife had been a lesbian....nope, just grew up hardcore religious), constant pressure by media denigrating their lifestyle and glorifying being "independent", guys who will try to badger them into breaking their vow/goals, a complete lack of positive or traditional role models, etc.

Even daily things like the swimsuits available at the store to them push them away from their values and towards being slutty.

There is something to her Tinder complaint. We don't always see it from our perspective but finding the guys who are actually marriageable is hard for them. First off the wide majority are completely unsuitable for it (drug use, can't hold down even a low paying job, just plain stupid, etc) and many of the ones who are will be guys who have successfully beta-ized themselves enough that they can fit into larger companies with HR departments. From what I see most of the guys who actually are great tend to be 40+.

I mean just think about it. You all know what the average dude is like these days. Now try to put yourselves in the shoes of a girl who's...let's say a 21 year old religious, dress wearing virgin and working in a more traditional job (like a secretary, daycare, etc) just to hold the bills down until she can fall in love, get married, and have her babies. Let's say she's someone you care about like a younger sister or a daughter. Now flip through your memory and think of 20 random dudes you know( co-workers, etc) in a decent age range (let's say under 30). How many of those dudes would you feel comfortable with her marrying? I'm willing to bet for most of us, will be 1-2 at MOST.

Now do the exact same thing for a girl who's in college. Think about how many of those guys would be suitable.

It's easy to lose perspective in this bubble but keep in mind that most guys out there tend to either be fat betas or gravitate towards one of the various douchebag stereotypes that pop culture holds out for them to latch onto.

I feel a huge amount of pity for anyone, male or female, that's looking for a marriage these days.

Post: #32

(09-24-2017 10:14 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Heh.

Post: #33

(09-25-2017 07:37 AM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 10:00 AM)Vaun Wrote:  This article entirely blames men.

I feel a huge amount of pity for anyone, male or female, that's looking for a marriage these days.

For one, There are LOTS of men who would respect a woman's wishes and wait before having sex,

Thing is they are usually weaker willed, not top 10-15% of men.

Secondly, The State's interference with marriage (divorce courts/no fault divorce) has caused men to not want to get married, which causes this WHOLE CYCLE you mentioned.

If no fault divorce was gone, then Tinder would go bankrupt OVERNIGHT.

But what man would knowingly get into a situation where he has around a 45-50% chance of Losing HALF of his money, his kids and family, his house that he worked his ass off for, all because the woman was "unhappy" or met someone with an "Aura"?

Women are looking for a man AND society that puts and KEEPS them in their place. When women can't find that, they destroy the system(usually by trying to import the strong men they are searching for, or being a harem member to the top 10% of Men. . .causing society to collapse as the other 90% have nothing to "work" for). Men got weak in allowing no fault divorce to go through, and now the women have responding accordingly, despite it hurting themselves greatly in the process.

So no, it's not "To be fair." (I really hate that reddit, limp-wristed platitude shit)it's "There's a fucking problem, here it is: (family court system/no fault divorce) and here's how to fix it (remove it) the government is TOO involved in marriage as it nets the government quick money which is more enticing than stable money. Thing is, this "quick money" is really just a form of communism, stealing from the productive members of society, and "Spreading that wealth" to the government. . .making everyone poorer in the meantime until the rich and the poor get so far apart that the system collapses and we go back to being hunter gatherers in a Radioactive tainted countryside.

This is a serious problem, and I'd gather that yes if No fault divorce was fixed, Roosh May be out of business. . .or he'd have to change focus on teaching Me how to lead their marriages and become more successful for their families.

Someone said that Maybe sex bots would help stave off this degeneration, I'd disagree, Men need responsibilities, and without a family, men would slowly lose purpose, of course a lot can get on by submerging themselves in their work. . .but again that's only the top 15% of men. The rest of society CANT RUN on those men alone. At least in our "advanced" society.

Post: #34

Quote:Spend a little time with single women in their early to mid-30s, and you'll be grateful you're not one of them.

I'm grateful I don't spend any time at all with single women in their early to mid-30s. I'm in that age range and married to a woman almost 10 years younger. Can you imagine the hate coming towards us from those pitiful creatures?

But I also agree with Easy_C, it's very hard for marriageable young women these days. My wife has a younger cousin, and if she asked me to introduce her to a good older man for marriage, I wouldn't be able to think of one (who's not already taken).

And by good, I mean good at being a man. Most guys I'm friends with are good men - they work hard and make decent money, they exercise regularly, they treat people well. However, they have been trained their whole lives to put women on pedestals and thus would not be able to lead a family effectively. If I introduce the girls to them, they wouldn't be able to keep their interests (and I have tried a couple of times). They may be good people, but they are terrible at being a man.

Post: #35

Her article assumes these women have value, but they don't.

I came across a good line recently:

Men have to build value. Women have to keep theirs.

These 30 somethings wasted their prime fertile years on going to ibiza, taking pics of themselves doing a downward dog pose and are now scratching their heads why men are not impressed with all their experience.

When purchasing a car, the first question is how much mileage is on it. With a woman, my first question is her age. Often people try and set me up and I decline on age alone. A 25 girl next door is more valuable than a 35 former miss universe. Women don't get this. They drank the feminist koolaid in their 20s and are now waking up to a big hangover in their 30s.

Post: #36

Quote:A lot of women seem to have their act together these days. But a lot of men don't. "I think the greatest, most astonishing fact that I am aware of in social science right now is that women have been able to hear the labour market screaming out 'You need more education'… and men have not," MIT economics professor Michael Greenstone says in Cheap Sex.

Post: #37

(09-26-2017 08:11 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  Her article assumes these women have value, but they don't.

I came across a good line recently:

Men have to build value. Women have to keep theirs.

These 30 somethings wasted their prime fertile years on going to ibiza, taking pics of themselves doing a downward dog pose and are now scratching their heads why men are not impressed with all their experience.

When purchasing a car, the first question is how much mileage is on it. With a woman, my first question is her age. Often people try and set me up and I decline on age alone. A 25 girl next door is more valuable than a 35 former miss universe. Women don't get this. They drank the feminist koolaid in their 20s and are now waking up to a big hangover in their 30s.

I am 22 and have started to notice the big difference in girls I know between those few who have got into a relationship young and the many who are still single. The few who are in relationships with a man 1-5 years older (I'm sure even older, but that as old as I know in my personal life) than them are stable, pleasant and respectful girls having made the correct decision in allowing a man to lead them in experiencing the world, along with a great bond with their first (and hopefully only) boyfriend that is fantastic to see. My girl gets to experience the festivals, travelling etc with me while I travel solo at times and laughs at the slutty groups of girls on these trips. It should be (and is for me) an instant deal breaker for me when a girl has been abroad with friends or solo. Exploration and experiences are for men or women with a man leading her.

The ones who are single seem to be on a ship heading into a storm with no anchor. Directionless. Filling their days with vapid selfies, cursing, swiping, tapping and making plans for the next drinking session. They have lost their innocence due to having not been in a stable relationship by 22 (late for a girl) and only have inconsistent, lust-driven and heartbreaking experiences with guys (I've been on the bang random girls side aswell). They are ruined and unfit to be led. Just a masturbatory device when all is said and done. When they are over 24 they have had 6 years to find a suitable mate. More than enough time.

Therefore if a girl is over 25 she can't hide that dating isn't for her mental and physical attraction to the man, but for the need that she is now in a rush to find whoever will do for kids/marriage. A recipe for disaster. The masses who tell these girls that prince charming (cats or beta pushover who can never compare) will be waiting don't notice but it is so simple to sit and predict how the lives are going to pan out.

Post: #38

In regards to men having easy access to sex with online dating...

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attractive men

No woman will ever understand this difference.

That looks like a really fun article to line-by-line comment on.

Post: #39

(09-24-2017 02:51 PM)Tactician Wrote:  I'd never forgive a woman who tried to take my money or property, but it's always been my view that if a women cheats on you, it's more reflective of you than anything, regarding both your ability to judge others and also your own attractiveness.

I'm all for accountability, but this is something that I cannot get behind. If a woman cheats, it's her fault. Period.

That's one of the problems nowadays...they aren't being held accountable for cheating. They have their friends blaming it on the guy "Oh, he never showed you enough affection anyway. What were you supposed to do?" TV shows, movies...it's all over. How many movies have you seen where a woman cheats and she never finds love and ends up alone and atoning for her actions? I can't recall any. But I can think of a recent movie (Brooklyn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_(film) ) that had a female character do just this and guess what? She cheated and even returned home to her husband. The movie won a bunch of awards and was 'highly praised' by critics. (I never saw the movie myself and never would, just read the synopsis on wiki)

I've known good men, good CHARACTER men, get cheated on. Blindsided. Were they beta? Sure, maybe. I don't know all the details on why they cheated. But if she cheated because she thought he was of poor character and/or not attractive enough, then it is HER that is of poor character.

Who put females in charge of judging character anyway?

Post: #40

(09-26-2017 07:46 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  And by good, I mean good at being a man. Most guys I'm friends with are good men - they work hard and make decent money, they exercise regularly, they treat people well. However, they have been trained their whole lives to put women on pedestals and thus would not be able to lead a family effectively. If I introduce the girls to them, they wouldn't be able to keep their interests (and I have tried a couple of times). They may be good people, but they are terrible at being a man.

Point I should have emphasized. They're plenty of "nice guys" out there, but the ones who are actually capable of being a good masculine role model for their kids are few and far between.

And I guarantee you that "unicorn" type girls always have that in the back of their minds when evaluating dudes.

Post: #41

(09-24-2017 09:43 AM)Number one bummer Wrote:  I don't think she really gets it. Her hamster accidentally crash-landed in the ballpark but it doesn't know why. The author can name the symptoms but not the diseases or the cures. In her mind it is the fault of men that women wait until their 30's to get married and get rebuffed once their marital assets are gone.

+1

I am "culturally appropriating" the bold part for my own use if you don't mind. It's gold.