Post: #51

(06-13-2017 08:01 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 07:45 PM)Enoch Wrote:  I believe America needs to be a primarily white Christian nation to maintain its economic and social position.

That said I prefer dating Asian and Indian women who are not religious in any real way. They just know how to take care of a man. I chalk it up to the fact that they on average have a healthy relationship with their father and saw their mom take care of him the right way. Not so with most white girls.

Not very Christian like bombing other countries in the name of democracy.

The elites that do that shit are not Christian in the slightest. The reality is that the voters have little to no say in what wars get started and on what premise.

The people of America are no more bombing the Middle East than the people of China are occupying Tibet. Nothing short of a military coup can stop hodge-podge globalist murder, and the American military is not going to up-end their entire country over a Libya here and a Syria there.

Blaming Christians is misplaced and destructive thinking.

Post: #52

The bombing argument falls apart when you see countries being attacked that are not only not bombing the Middle East, but are actually staying the hell out of the region or heaven appeasing said religion of Peace, Sweden comes to mind per example, they had a truck of Peace attack. Another example would be South East Asia, all having problems with the cult of Peace. Iran also has the "problem" of being of the different sect of the majority of the peaceful cult so they got attacked too. House of War and House of Islam. Simple concept.

On the 4chan issue regarding blacks. Well, 4chan is a very weird place with all sorts of people and many of them are very, very weird. One thing I will say though, I see more worry about some weirdos that could be ANYONE posting crap on the internet than about the black on black murder rate in the USA per example, this should be a FAR more serious threat than the ghosts of looming white supremacy everywhere. We probably have to go back to the KKK to find similar numbers and it could even fall short. I won't presume to know, have not compared the numbers. But still. Priorities, gents.

Post: #53

When it comes to white nationalists, supremacists or other offshoots dating, fucking and marrying non-whites there are two distinct categories to my mind.

Guys that picked up their coloured booty before they became racial purists and guys that picked up their coloured booty after they became racial purists.

My wife is latina and my best guess is that she's would be in the top 5% of her racial make-up for intellect, but I didn't subscribe to anything much to do with genetics before we met, dated and eventually married. Much later down the track after finding this forum I asked her if she thought it would be a good idea to bring more of "her" people to Australia. Her words: "No fucking way". And she's normally not big on swearing.

As someone who now wants only a small degree of merit based immigration I can see how my wife's stories of her homeland gave me an insight into why some nations suck and others don't, and it's got nothing to do with the dirt or the water or the air. It's simply culture and the underlying genetics that drive it. I'm not a white enthno-purist. I'm a merit-purist. But in a sense my own experience has shown me how someone who marries a foreign non-white woman could be given a glimpse into the world they came from and suddenly feel compelled to make sure that world didn't come spilling into his own nation. He could still be faithful to his marriage and recognise that his wife was not cut from the same cloth as the people she grew up with, but that on average he still didn't want the "there" to come over to the "here".

On the other hand, white purists that adopt their world view and THEN marry outside of their race are really pushing shit uphill when it comes to credibility. Living that sort of split between ideology and reality would have to be soul destroying. As a guy that has a brown, foreign wife and interracial sons in a very white area I walk a line most others don't, and my middle-road ideology reflects that. But to do the same thing while being a white nationalist/purist/supremacist?

Fuck knows how to make sense of that madness.

Post: #54

What we are really talking about here is a very small subset of people who understand that demographics are destiny AND who are black pilled when it comes to western women. I don't think many guys on the TRS side of things are interested in non-white women.

A good example of this type of person is John Derbyshire, who has an asian wife. Or pretty much all of POL.

Post: #55

(06-13-2017 06:43 PM)Kona Wrote:  Fourth, he may be ballsy, I trust you. White nationalism or identitarianism might be the way to go. But in this case the person delivering the message is flawed. That flaw is fatness.

This is my last defense on Forney on this tread, because one more and it become homoerotic.

He scaled Angel's Landing at Mt Zion on a sprained ankle. A dozen people have died on that hike (yes, literally), and he made it while limping. Yeah, he's fat, and I'd love to have him visit me and eat my cooking for a month, but nonetheless I'd trust him to have my back over a lot of gym rats.

It's also worth noting that he (and I) have been calling out the idiotic, racist element within the Alt Right for over two years now. While everybody else waits for the dust to settle, and then say "Oh yeah, I always hated the loser in that fight," he's been calling it accurately from day one, warning about the direction things are going.

I am proud that Matt Forney thinks I'm deserving of his friendship and loyalty, and I think you're missing out on a lot if you dismiss him so readily, off of the calumny of others... particularly others who hate you.

Post: #56

(06-13-2017 11:15 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 06:43 PM)Kona Wrote:  Fourth, he may be ballsy, I trust you. White nationalism or identitarianism might be the way to go. But in this case the person delivering the message is flawed. That flaw is fatness.

This is my last defense on Forney on this tread, because one more and it become homoerotic.

He scaled Angel's Landing at Mt Zion on a sprained ankle. A dozen people have died on that hike (yes, literally), and he made it while limping. Yeah, he's fat, and I'd love to have him visit me and eat my cooking for a month, but nonetheless I'd trust him to have my back over a lot of gym rats.

It's also worth noting that he (and I) have been calling out the idiotic, racist element within the Alt Right for over two years now. While everybody else waits for the dust to settle, and then say "Oh yeah, I always hated the loser in that fight," he's been calling it accurately from day one, warning about the direction things are going.

I am proud that Matt Forney thinks I'm deserving of his friendship and loyalty, and I think you're missing out on a lot if you dismiss him so readily, off of the calumny of others... particularly others who hate you.

I could be totally wrong. Not the first time today.

The CNN show I saw him on ( with an afro black guy all about racism) completely tweaked whatever he said to make him look like a jerk. Its CNN, and I could just tell.

That being said, would his writing be the same if he was in perfect!physical shape? Probably not. Lose that weight and his whole view of the world will change. He just sounds angry.

And that's it for me too, now I'm sounding like a Forney hater. Forneycaters could be what he calls his audience if his YouTube career takes off, free advice.

Aloha!

Post: #57

(06-13-2017 09:12 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  When it comes to white nationalists, supremacists or other offshoots dating, fucking and marrying non-whites there are two distinct categories to my mind.

Guys that picked up their coloured booty before they became racial purists and guys that picked up their coloured booty after they became racial purists.

My wife is latina and my best guess is that she's would be in the top 5% of her racial make-up for intellect, but I didn't subscribe to anything much to do with genetics before we met, dated and eventually married. Much later down the track after finding this forum I asked her if she thought it would be a good idea to bring more of "her" people to Australia. Her words: "No fucking way". And she's normally not big on swearing.

This is a good example of the cognitive dissonance that plagues many who sympathize with the views on racialism/supremacy we've been talking about.
Leonard appears to put himself in the first category.

Quote:As someone who now wants only a small degree of merit based immigration I can see how my wife's stories of her homeland gave me an insight into why some nations suck and others don't, and it's got nothing to do with the dirt or the water or the air. It's simply culture and the underlying genetics that drive it. I'm not a white enthno-purist. I'm a merit-purist.

Leonard is not an "enthno-purist". He is a "merit-purist". However, different nations/cultures/peoples have, in his view, different levels of "suck". In leonard's view, this has absolutely nothing at all to do with "the dirt or the water or the air"(read: environment is not a factor). Leonard believes it is all down to the underlying genetics of these people. Genetics, as we all know, are pretty immutable.

So in the end, Leonard is a "merit-purist". But, in his view, some people have more inherent, immutable merit than others.
In short, it's animal farm in real life: we're all equal, but some are just more equal than others.

This is how supremacists who aren't terribly comfortable coming out and just saying what they are attempt to cover it up. Fortunately, it is not hard to see through.

Quote:But in a sense my own experience has shown me how someone who marries a foreign non-white woman could be given a glimpse into the world they came from and suddenly feel compelled to make sure that world didn't come spilling into his own nation. He could still be faithful to his marriage and recognise that his wife was not cut from the same cloth as the people she grew up with, but that on average he still didn't want the "there" to come over to the "here".

Leonard (rough translation): "Everything you come from is shit. The people are, generally, shit. Their culture is shit. The society they make is, by and large, shit. And there's nothing we can really do about it because the genetics of these people are shit too. But you're an exception. You come from that culture and that society and share blood with all of these genetically inferior folks, but you're not shit."

That's high praise. Everything you come from, everything that effectively made you, is shit. Keep in mind that it doesn't matter how far you go - that society and culture shape/make you and those who raise you, and the blood that underlies that society and supposedly keeps it inferior runs through your veins and/or the veins of those close to you. Some of it will probably pass to your children too. You can't escape that.

But it's shit. So she will forever be tied to "shit".

Now, there are a couple of potential motivations for why a woman would go along with this. First is that Leonard's wife deep down may not have much pride in her own culture, heritage, or society. This is probably true since, if she did have such pride, she'd never associate with Leonard, a man who insists that all of those things are shit. But, if we are to take Leonard at his word, we can infer that she also thinks her society/culture/etc are shit, so they get along and things work out.

Another option that is tied to the first is that leonard's wife wants to "climb the ladder". This is common among women who believe their culture/heritage/society is shit, and want to improve it by associating with men who they deem to come from superior lineages. This is common among the women in many of the Asian Female-White Male relationships we described on the first page, but it happens elsewhere too.

In any case, we can only speculate. Those are my best guesses.

Now, what really will complicate this is children. Leonard is no friend to me, but I will advise him this in good faith: keep the views you have about your wife and the worth of her culture/society/heritage/people away from your sons. Instruct your wife to do the same. Don't talk down about it in front of them.

When a kid comes out with knowledge of his ethnic heritage and also happens to have physical evidence of said heritage (which is probably likely unless your wife is a white Latina, and you say she is not), it can create a lot of mental turmoil to find out that both of your parents looked down on those roots. This is how the Elliott Rodgers of the world are made, and we don't need any more of those. It can be a truly soul-destroying existence.

The fact that you live outside of the particularly difficult racial environment that is the USA will minimize the risk here (Elliott Rodger might have been better off had he been raised in Canada, the UK, or Australia), but it is still something to keep in mind.

Post: #58

Yeah, I was counting the clock down until the butthurt erupted.

Welcome to Excelsiorworld. Where there's no difference between importing a million random Papua New Guinean tribesmen or five African nobel prize winners.

Thanks for your advice about my kids, but they're doing just fine. They're being raised as Australian nationalists to value liberty and fight against any ethos that would undermine it, if you get my drift.

They're also being well educated about precisely the reason their dear mother left her homeland because the very last thing either of us want is for them to romanticise the bullshit culture that's flourished there these last 50 years and get the foolish impression that the grass is greener on the other side of the ocean.

Believe it or not, Australia is an extremely welcoming nation to people of colour (even white areas like this) yet extremely UNwelcoming to hostile foreign ideologies, regardless of whether anyone believes such a distinction is possible.

Post: #59

Thank you for this highly useful PSA, Officer Excelsior of the Tolerance Enforcement Administration. Leonard D Neubache is a secret KKK Grand Wizard and his wife is a Latina Uncle Tom (Auntie Tammy?). I had no idea!

Post: #60

(06-14-2017 03:05 AM)Excelsior Wrote:  ...
Leonard is not an "enthno-purist". He is a "merit-purist". However, different nations/cultures/peoples have, in his view, different levels of "suck". In leonard's view, this has absolutely nothing at all to do with "the dirt or the water or the air"(read: environment is not a factor). Leonard believes it is all down to the underlying genetics of these people. Genetics, as we all know, are pretty immutable.

So in the end, Leonard is a "merit-purist". But, in his view, some people have more inherent, immutable merit than others.
In short, it's animal farm in real life: we're all equal, but some are just more equal than others.

This is how supremacists who aren't terribly comfortable coming out and just saying what they are attempt to cover it up. Fortunately, it is not hard to see through.
...

I wanted to quote this bit in particular because every time I read something like this I just have to laugh and smile.

Why is Africa like Africa and Europe like Europe?

Leonard: Genetics and culture.
Excelsior: Pfft. Racist. Europe is just really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, lucky to the power of ten. Meanwhile Africa is just really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, UNlucky to the power of fifteen.

Post: #61

(06-14-2017 03:24 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Yeah, I was counting the clock down until the butthurt erupted.

Welcome to Excelsiorworld. Where there's no difference between importing a million random Papua New Guinean tribesmen or five African nobel prize winners.

Excelsiorworld is just a place where we don't promote supremacists or ideology/policy based on said supremacy. It's not that deep, and it's really not even my world - plenty of people are welcome.

And yes, I would imply a difference between 1 million random folks from anywhere and a bunch of Nobel Prize winners. Just because I don't support mass bans on migrants based on their race or religion does not mean I'm completely opposed to any sort of vetting whatsoever. I've made that abundantly clear to you on multiple occasions.

Quote:Thanks for your advice about my kids

Glad I could help.

(06-14-2017 04:17 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I wanted to quote this bit in particular because every time I read something like this I just have to laugh and smile.

Why is Africa like Africa and Europe like Europe?

Leonard: Genetics and culture.
Excelsior: Pfft. Racist. Europe is just really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, lucky to the power of ten. Meanwhile Africa is just really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, UNlucky to the power of fifteen.

I think you means "lucky", not "unlucky".

And that's the Guns, Germs, and Steel approach to the topic. It's really not the joke you make it out to be, plenty of quite serious scholarly material has been presented with that thesis.

In either case, if you're going to play the "genetics are the cause of IQ differences" game and imply that societies are best sorted in a hierarchy by IQ since it is the "best" measure of everything meaningful, it's going to be hard to avoid the supremacist conclusion.

Not that you were doing a good job as things stand.

Post: #62

fuck you cunts.

Here I was just about to head off to bed & I come across ANOTHER thread where Leonard & Athlone are calling each other racist. How the fuck am I supposed to get any sleep, keep my job & provide for my kids while this is going on? I have to keep shitposting. It's like Trumps election night all over again.

FML

Post: #63

(06-13-2017 09:12 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Guys that picked up their coloured booty before they became racial purists and guys that picked up their coloured booty after they became racial purists.

My wife is latina and my best guess is that she's would be in the top 5% of her racial make-up for intellect, but I didn't subscribe to anything much to do with genetics before we met, dated and eventually married.

So Leonard, you think that because you like big butts that we think you cannot lie?

We all know you are a filthy racist with your latina wife & your half-bred boys raping everything down at the creek. It all goes down at the creek.

Post: #64

Wait, that one flew over my head. What do creeks have to do with rape? Is it something about women being exposed to rape while going to get water for their families...?

Post: #65

Leonard de Neubache on arrival at the creek, upon finding water to bring back to his brood.




Got Water?




Leonard sizing up to a Muslim Apologist on the way back from the creek.




Leonard, after Excelsior just made another post on RVF.

Post: #66

I think the creek is a Deliverance reference?

Post: #67

FUCK ME. THERE'S NO FUCKING REFERENCE. JUST GOOGLE A FUCKING "CREEK"!!! FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

Is laconic humour such stretch for you guys???

Post: #68

(06-14-2017 06:32 AM)Excelsior Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 03:24 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Yeah, I was counting the clock down until the butthurt erupted.

Welcome to Excelsiorworld. Where there's no difference between importing a million random Papua New Guinean tribesmen or five African nobel prize winners.

...

And yes, I would imply a difference between 1 million random folks from anywhere and a bunch of Nobel Prize winners. Just because I don't support mass bans on migrants based on their race or religion does not mean I'm completely opposed to any sort of vetting whatsoever. I've made that abundantly clear to you on multiple occasions.
...

I think you means "lucky", not "unlucky".

And that's the Guns, Germs, and Steel approach to the topic. It's really not the joke you make it out to be, plenty of quite serious scholarly material has been presented with that thesis.

In either case, if you're going to play the "genetics are the cause of IQ differences" game and imply that societies are best sorted in a hierarchy by IQ since it is the "best" measure of everything meaningful, it's going to be hard to avoid the supremacist conclusion.

Not that you were doing a good job as things stand.

Next up from Excelsior! Why genetics don't exist and the NBA is a racist organisation for excluding equally suited white men!

Post: #69

Hey, boys raping things by the creek made me think of Deliverance, squeel like a pig!

Post: #70

@Leonard

The NBA lets the best people in regardless of race. . .. Sounds like Excelsior is just saying he agrees in that same policy for immigrants, vet them to make sure the best ones are allowed in. I don't see why this is unreasonable. Your comment seems to suggest that if immigrants were vetted so only the best ones are allowed in, then by default certain ones would be excluded due to race/genetics. . . if thats not what you are saying, then I don't understand the NBA and genetics reference.

Sorry for typos, on phone.

Post: #71

I guess it's a misunderstanding - the point is that they are currently not vetted at all in favor of promoting certain races/religions. We would love for them to start being vetted in a colorblind way.

Post: #72

(06-14-2017 08:31 AM)Repo Wrote:  @Leonard

The NBA lets the best people in regardless of race. . .. Sounds like Excelsior is just saying he agrees in that same policy for immigrants, vet them to make sure the best ones are allowed in. I don't see why this is unreasonable. Your comment seems to suggest that if immigrants were vetted so only the best ones are allowed in, then by default certain ones would be excluded due to race/genetics. . . if thats not what you are saying, then I don't understand the NBA and genetics reference.

Sorry for typos, on phone.

Excelsior takes my simple words and tries to spin them out over a page or two before decrying me as a heretic against the progressive order. It's not surprising that anyone might be confused.

My stance is simple. More muslims = more trouble. Less muslims = less trouble. The west is not obligated to suffer their backwards political cult on the grounds of "religious freedom". Those here need to knuckle under or fuck off. The rest need to be kept out.

As for genetics and IQ, I have never once said that certain races need to be kept out because their average IQ is low. Excelsior is jumping at shadows, but he's welcome to find a specific quote and prove me wrong.

I'm all for denying entry to retarded Polacks and granting entry to Black mensa candidates. I'm not even that picky on the score needed.

"At or above national average and not a member of a hostile religion" is fine by me.

But having said that I feel kind of bad for depriving Ex of the bogeyman of white supremacy he needs to motivate him to get out of bed in the morning.

I'm sure he'll spin even these simple words into a complex arrangement proving once and for all that I'm "literally Hitler". After all. I have a fake, self hating aunty Tomita latina for a wife and a couple of mixed race sons that are sadly doomed to be shamed by their Nazi father for their inferior blood.

But good luck to him. Everyone needs a hobby, even if it's obsessing about the racial minutia of a stranger's posts on a web forum.

Post: #73

Excelsior,

What are your views on Japanese supremacy in Japan, or Hindustani supremacy in India or black supremacy in Uganda and South Africa?

Post: #74

(06-13-2017 08:36 PM)Fortis Wrote:  Every time I've rawdogged a white girl, I thought to myself "I'm not doing this because the pussy's good, I'm doing this because I want to 'pass on my half-black genomic package' and hopefully improve these subhumans!"

Seriously, guys? You think some random NS dude is thinking about that shit when he tags a hot asian chick? When's the last time you were thinking about IQ, SES and SMV when you were balls deep in a chick.

If you gotta construct ridiculous backwards rationalizations for basic human behavior then I don't know what to tell you.

I rawdogged an Indonesian girl once in Hong Kong, but I was more of in my libertarian phase there, so I don't know if that influenced my beliefs.

Post: #75

(06-13-2017 08:25 PM)Jewmosis Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 08:01 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Not very Christian like bombing other countries in the name of democracy.

It's more of a Zionist thing actually. But yeah, Christianity needs to be uncucked and stop the support of military aggression on behalf of Israel.

How fucking dare you use a troll name of the great Tuthmosis.

I hope he comes back and brings the wrath of the Egyptian god ban hammers against you !