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RE: What's the matter with Toronto? Seriously...
(09-12-2011 02:21 PM)PBateman Wrote: (08-30-2011 10:32 PM)Mace Wrote: Funny thing is if you mention any of these sentiments on any mainstream Toronto website, you'd get slammed big time by the locals. There's a lot of people in this city who regard Toronto as "the centre of the universe". Not kidding. Always from people who've never been anywhere. And it's because most of Toronto's population is comprised of FOB immigrants from Third World dumps and transplants from bumfuck hick towns.
A big problem is Canadians aren't particularly cultured or well-travelled. A Canadian's idea of a vacation is a weekend at the cottage by the lake, or if they're adventurous a week in an all-inclusive resort in Cuba. Contrast this to Aussies for whom an overseas vacation is an annual ritual. There's a certain insular Toronto-centrism that's unbecoming of a truly international, cosmopolitan city.
Someone mentioned demographics and it has a lot to do with the poor social vibe and general uptight nature of this city. In Toronto the biggest groups are repressed anal-retentive WASPs, stonefaced Asians, and insular Indians & Muslims. Even the Southern Europeans here (Italians, Greeks, Portuguese) seem mellowed out compared to their cousins back home.
Contrast Toronto to another huge, diverse immigrant hub - New York. In NYC there's a healthy mix of extroverted groups - loquacious Jews, in-your-face Italians, outgoing Puerto Ricans/Dominicans, and a huge black population. In spite of similar levels of diversity, the social vibe in NYC vs. Toronto is very different. ie. chatting with strangers on the subway is common in NYC; this is a major social faux pas in Toronto.
Once you've travelled overseas and visited some REAL cities with an active street life, where people are relaxed and the women are warm and friendly, coming back to Toronto can be hella depressing.
Nail. Hammer. Head.
This can be summed up for any major Canadian city. I am proud to be Canadian but it is bothersome how uncultured our nation is. They get so insecure and defensive about their respective towns/cities as well on this matter, but it's true.
Now in smaller towns you will find more laid back women that don't have as big of a beatch shield or whatever. However, I agree with a lot of the sentiments about Toronto women from this article. I dated one and she was an absolute nightmare. The most self-entitled woman I ever dated and was the reason I set out to stop dating Canadian women. She brought nothing to the table but wanted her cake and to eat it too.
Sad thing was, this girl in TO wasn't that much different from the slags I dated in Calgary. Now you would think a once proud and smaller community like Calgary would have more easy going women. Umm no. They are so cold you get a chill from them just walking by them on the street. It has gotten progressively worse over the years (thanks to oil money) and when I left I couldn't have been happier.
You would think women in London are more pretentious but I have never once been asked about my job or had any other material discussions within the first hour of meeting a woman here. Maybe once or twice but not on the same scale as TO or Calgary. This is one of the first questions...FIRST....they will ask. I never answer it and immediately I am done with them when this is asked. If you don't make loads of money in these cities (or pretend to live this lifestyle of luxury) I have no idea how you attract the majority of women there.
The previous bf of the girl from TO showered her with money and gifts and that has played a large part of this phenomenon. Guys with no game, using material goods to attract women. This is why you should rarely ever seriously date a woman from these cities...unless she's a rare breed. There are some good ones obviously.
Some good points in your statement. The scary thing is alot of women are hoping to be spoilt or meet Mr BIG.
I was downtown on King St last thursday and the place is packed with hot chicks. Funny enough there seemed to be a different vibe, alot of girls seemed to be on the prowl. I will check it out this week since TIFF is going on, bars actually close later this week.
I am a bit surprised to hear that other Canadian cities have the same attitude as Toronto, it is no secret that the smaller towns are the place to go hunting.
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RE: What's the matter with Toronto? Seriously...
(09-12-2011 11:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: (09-12-2011 02:21 PM)PBateman Wrote: (08-30-2011 10:32 PM)Mace Wrote: Funny thing is if you mention any of these sentiments on any mainstream Toronto website, you'd get slammed big time by the locals. There's a lot of people in this city who regard Toronto as "the centre of the universe". Not kidding. Always from people who've never been anywhere. And it's because most of Toronto's population is comprised of FOB immigrants from Third World dumps and transplants from bumfuck hick towns.
A big problem is Canadians aren't particularly cultured or well-travelled. A Canadian's idea of a vacation is a weekend at the cottage by the lake, or if they're adventurous a week in an all-inclusive resort in Cuba. Contrast this to Aussies for whom an overseas vacation is an annual ritual. There's a certain insular Toronto-centrism that's unbecoming of a truly international, cosmopolitan city.
Someone mentioned demographics and it has a lot to do with the poor social vibe and general uptight nature of this city. In Toronto the biggest groups are repressed anal-retentive WASPs, stonefaced Asians, and insular Indians & Muslims. Even the Southern Europeans here (Italians, Greeks, Portuguese) seem mellowed out compared to their cousins back home.
Contrast Toronto to another huge, diverse immigrant hub - New York. In NYC there's a healthy mix of extroverted groups - loquacious Jews, in-your-face Italians, outgoing Puerto Ricans/Dominicans, and a huge black population. In spite of similar levels of diversity, the social vibe in NYC vs. Toronto is very different. ie. chatting with strangers on the subway is common in NYC; this is a major social faux pas in Toronto.
Once you've travelled overseas and visited some REAL cities with an active street life, where people are relaxed and the women are warm and friendly, coming back to Toronto can be hella depressing.
Nail. Hammer. Head.
This can be summed up for any major Canadian city. I am proud to be Canadian but it is bothersome how uncultured our nation is. They get so insecure and defensive about their respective towns/cities as well on this matter, but it's true.
Now in smaller towns you will find more laid back women that don't have as big of a beatch shield or whatever. However, I agree with a lot of the sentiments about Toronto women from this article. I dated one and she was an absolute nightmare. The most self-entitled woman I ever dated and was the reason I set out to stop dating Canadian women. She brought nothing to the table but wanted her cake and to eat it too.
Sad thing was, this girl in TO wasn't that much different from the slags I dated in Calgary. Now you would think a once proud and smaller community like Calgary would have more easy going women. Umm no. They are so cold you get a chill from them just walking by them on the street. It has gotten progressively worse over the years (thanks to oil money) and when I left I couldn't have been happier.
You would think women in London are more pretentious but I have never once been asked about my job or had any other material discussions within the first hour of meeting a woman here. Maybe once or twice but not on the same scale as TO or Calgary. This is one of the first questions...FIRST....they will ask. I never answer it and immediately I am done with them when this is asked. If you don't make loads of money in these cities (or pretend to live this lifestyle of luxury) I have no idea how you attract the majority of women there.
The previous bf of the girl from TO showered her with money and gifts and that has played a large part of this phenomenon. Guys with no game, using material goods to attract women. This is why you should rarely ever seriously date a woman from these cities...unless she's a rare breed. There are some good ones obviously.
Some good points in your statement. The scary thing is alot of women are hoping to be spoilt or meet Mr BIG.
I was downtown on King St last thursday and the place is packed with hot chicks. Funny enough there seemed to be a different vibe, alot of girls seemed to be on the prowl. I will check it out this week since TIFF is going on, bars actually close later this week.
I am a bit surprised to hear that other Canadian cities have the same attitude as Toronto, it is no secret that the smaller towns are the place to go hunting.
I'm new to this sight but am very glad to find brothers that share the same sentiments. I also go back to the good old days when you could actually go out to a CLUB to meet woemn. My only worries were making sure to have a matching outfit with a pen that was working. Still remember Astrolight, Twightlight Zone, Cluz Z, Haggermans, Spectrum, Focus, RPM, Studio 69, Park Avenue, and especially Atlantis on long weekends when John Sally hosted it.
I eventually gave up on dating within my community (West Indian) because of the selfish, "stoosh" mentality/attitude the came about with BET/MTV, Raptors, and a whole lot of insecure men who meesed up the game by paying for a woman i.e shopping dates, cars and even rent... lol. Over the last few years I have enjoyed dating European and S American woman I met at Salsa clubs, Ultra, Music and some places in the 905's. However, recently I have exeperienced the same bullshit issues that many of you are commenting on.
So different times call for different approaches. I don't bother with most clubs up and focuss on Day game at malls and outdoor events, when I can. I notice that there is a childhood mentality that has developed with these T.O chicks that has them wanting constant attention from men who they feel will never leave them. Just look at alot of the guys you see with hot woman and I bet that its not due to their physical appearence but rather the emotional and finanical security aspects.What has been worked for me lately was rolling with a female wingman who is open minded and also enjoys meeting other women. Unfortunately I messed that up by sleeping with that wingwoman.
So now I'm resorting to online dating & saving my money and vacation time to go to places where you don't have to deal with all the mommy/daddy issues. Had an amazing time this year in Germany, Stolkholm, Thailand, Bali - hated Singapore and London. Going to Bucharest this month based on some of the wicked reports I have read from you guys & memories of the Romanian chicks from the good old days when they could come here on stirpper visas aka farm helpers. lol
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RE: What's the matter with Toronto? Seriously...
(09-13-2011 01:12 AM)julez Wrote: I'm new to this sight but am very glad to find brothers that share the same sentiments. I also go back to the good old days when you could actually go out to a CLUB to meet woemn. My only worries were making sure to have a matching outfit with a pen that was working. Still remember Astrolight, Twightlight Zone, Cluz Z, Haggermans, Spectrum, Focus, RPM, Studio 69, Park Avenue, and especially Atlantis on long weekends when John Sally hosted it.
I eventually gave up on dating within my community (West Indian) because of the selfish, "stoosh" mentality/attitude the came about with BET/MTV, Raptors, and a whole lot of insecure men who meesed up the game by paying for a woman i.e shopping dates, cars and even rent... lol. Over the last few years I have enjoyed dating European and S American woman I met at Salsa clubs, Ultra, Music and some places in the 905's. However, recently I have exeperienced the same bullshit issues that many of you are commenting on.
So different times call for different approaches. I don't bother with most clubs up and focuss on Day game at malls and outdoor events, when I can.
My friend pulls regularly from the malls near where he lives. He told me to hit up Jane and Wilson and I can scoop black lizards until I'm sick.
I was also thinking of Albion malls so I can scoop some Somalians.
What's your take on that? If I want to scoop easy black Toronto lizards where would you suggest?
(09-13-2011 01:12 AM)julez Wrote: I notice that there is a childhood mentality that has developed with these T.O chicks that has them wanting constant attention from men who they feel will never leave them. Just look at alot of the guys you see with hot woman and I bet that its not due to their physical appearence but rather the emotional and finanical security aspects.What has been worked for me lately was rolling with a female wingman who is open minded and also enjoys meeting other women. Unfortunately I messed that up by sleeping with that wingwoman.
So now I'm resorting to online dating
What sites are you using? If I wanted black lizards, what sites would you suggest has the easiest return?
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RE: What's the matter with Toronto? Seriously...
(09-13-2011 08:54 AM)Moma Wrote: [quote='julez' pid='92482' dateline='1315894354']
I'm new to this sight but am very glad to find brothers that share the same sentiments. I also go back to the good old days when you could actually go out to a CLUB to meet woemn. My only worries were making sure to have a matching outfit with a pen that was working. Still remember Astrolight, Twightlight Zone, Cluz Z, Haggermans, Spectrum, Focus, RPM, Studio 69, Park Avenue, and especially Atlantis on long weekends when John Sally hosted it.
I eventually gave up on dating within my community (West Indian) because of the selfish, "stoosh" mentality/attitude the came about with BET/MTV, Raptors, and a whole lot of insecure men who meesed up the game by paying for a woman i.e shopping dates, cars and even rent... lol. Over the last few years I have enjoyed dating European and S American woman I met at Salsa clubs, Ultra, Music and some places in the 905's. However, recently I have exeperienced the same bullshit issues that many of you are commenting on.
So different times call for different approaches. I don't bother with most clubs up and focuss on Day game at malls and outdoor events, when I can.
My friend pulls regularly from the malls near where he lives. He told me to hit up Jane and Wilson and I can scoop black lizards until I'm sick.
I was also thinking of Albion malls so I can scoop some Somalians.
What's your take on that? If I want to scoop easy black Toronto lizards where would you suggest?
(09-13-2011 01:12 AM)julez Wrote: I notice that there is a childhood mentality that has developed with these T.O chicks that has them wanting constant attention from men who they feel will never leave them. Just look at alot of the guys you see with hot woman and I bet that its not due to their physical appearence but rather the emotional and finanical security aspects.What has been worked for me lately was rolling with a female wingman who is open minded and also enjoys meeting other women. Unfortunately I messed that up by sleeping with that wingwoman.
So now I'm resorting to online dating
What sites are you using? If I wanted black lizards, what sites would you suggest has the easiest return?
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I'm using POF, MeetmeinTo, Tagged and Ashelymadison. Not sure what to tell you about the malls where you mentioned, as I am now in |Missisauga and have some success once in a while at sq1 & erin mills town center. The summer events here like the rib fest were easy pickings. I would suggest Dixie Outlet mall for what your looking for.
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RE: What's the matter with Toronto? Seriously...
(09-13-2011 08:54 AM)Moma Wrote: (09-13-2011 01:12 AM)julez Wrote: I'm new to this sight but am very glad to find brothers that share the same sentiments. I also go back to the good old days when you could actually go out to a CLUB to meet woemn. My only worries were making sure to have a matching outfit with a pen that was working. Still remember Astrolight, Twightlight Zone, Cluz Z, Haggermans, Spectrum, Focus, RPM, Studio 69, Park Avenue, and especially Atlantis on long weekends when John Sally hosted it.
I eventually gave up on dating within my community (West Indian) because of the selfish, "stoosh" mentality/attitude the came about with BET/MTV, Raptors, and a whole lot of insecure men who meesed up the game by paying for a woman i.e shopping dates, cars and even rent... lol. Over the last few years I have enjoyed dating European and S American woman I met at Salsa clubs, Ultra, Music and some places in the 905's. However, recently I have exeperienced the same bullshit issues that many of you are commenting on.
So different times call for different approaches. I don't bother with most clubs up and focuss on Day game at malls and outdoor events, when I can.
My friend pulls regularly from the malls near where he lives. He told me to hit up Jane and Wilson and I can scoop black lizards until I'm sick.
I was also thinking of Albion malls so I can scoop some Somalians.
What's your take on that? If I want to scoop easy black Toronto lizards where would you suggest?
(09-13-2011 01:12 AM)julez Wrote: I notice that there is a childhood mentality that has developed with these T.O chicks that has them wanting constant attention from men who they feel will never leave them. Just look at alot of the guys you see with hot woman and I bet that its not due to their physical appearence but rather the emotional and finanical security aspects.What has been worked for me lately was rolling with a female wingman who is open minded and also enjoys meeting other women. Unfortunately I messed that up by sleeping with that wingwoman.
So now I'm resorting to online dating
What sites are you using? If I wanted black lizards, what sites would you suggest has the easiest return?
I'm using PoF, Blackplanet, Migente, Tagged and even Ashleymadison.
Not sure what to tell you about the malls you mentioned since I haven't been around those parts in along time. I'm in Sauga now & have occasional success/luck at Square 1, and even Erin Mills town center. I think you might find your "lizards" at Dixie outlet mall on the weekends. Especially by the main bus stop by the Food court exit. I was there this weekend grabbing some summer clothes from the Guess store for my upcoming Italy and Romania trip. (leaving tmw)
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