Post: #26

(04-17-2017 06:27 AM)Chris Brown Wrote:  What would you do? Keep the money or notify the police?

How much of it? For a civilian to move 43 million $ undetected is the 'perfect crime'. Sudden riches would make people talk about you. Then the cops would come after you, not to arrest you for a criminal trial, but to get the cash. Then you'd disappear. The real owners probably have something to hide. They might not report the theft. Nigeria is ranked 136 most corrupt out of 176 nations.

Post: #27

(04-17-2017 02:10 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 06:27 AM)Chris Brown Wrote:  What would you do? Keep the money or notify the police?

How much of it? For a civilian to move 43 million $ undetected is the 'perfect crime'. Sudden riches would make people talk about you. Then the cops would come after you, not to arrest you for a criminal trial, but to get the cash. Then you'd disappear. The real owners probably have something to hide. They might not report the theft. Nigeria is ranked 136 most corrupt out of 176 nations.

That's why you would have to have partners or others involved to get it spent or flipped.

Maybe we should page Moma and see what he would have done if he ran into a ton of cash in Lagos.

Post: #28

I'd keep it if I knew I could get away with it clean. Otherwise I might just grab a few stacks and hightail it. I'm not greedy and I'm not afraid of work, so I wouldn't be too cool with risking my life just for dangerous money; on the other hand, if opportunity knocks I might as well grab a quick payday. It's not like they wouldn't kill me if they knew I saw it but didn't take any. If $50k went missing they'd probably just think someone was skimming.

It would be pretty hard to use the money past a certain point, obviously. You couldn't just put it in the bank or spend cash like an idiot. It would be a long, slow process to launder it without getting caught.

I might be tempted to just keep like $500k or $1m and spend the rest on anonymous charitable donations to people who won't ask questions. Figure out how to funnel some of it to family who need it. Like I said, I'm not greedy or lazy. I like working most of the time. But having even $100k cash free and clear today would be huge for allowing me the freedom to take risks and build the business I want, instead of scraping by taking work that sucks balls because the bills won't get paid otherwise.

Post: #29

There are a myriad ways of legalizing even a larger sum like 40 mio. $. The only difficulty is smuggling the cash out of the country, but even that is not a terribly big problem.

Usually when something like that happens it is advisable to simply move away - far away - not telling anyone much.

Post: #30

Zel, $40m would cause a very major movement in the markets (real estate, commodities, mining, stock exchange, financial markets, fixed income, forex, etc) of a small country like Nigeria that the (corrupt??)regulatory authorities would NOT fail to notice.

Moving it out is even more difficult because now you must go to the bankers.

Hypothetically of course, how'd you go about it to avoid detection keeping in mind crooked cops and bankers(and the owners looking for revenge)???

Post: #31

Of course I did not mean by it to keep it in Nigeria.

Like any other wealthy Nigerian you move it out of the country

Post: #32

(04-17-2017 03:18 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Of course I did not mean by it to keep it in Nigeria.

Like any other wealthy Nigerian you move it out of the country

Personally, I'd start sending emails to help recruit people to help me move it out of the country.



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Post: #33

By the way - 40 mio. $ is not that much for Nigeria - GDP for that country is over 550 billion $. You can spend 1 mio. $ each year easily. But as I said it is safer to move out.

For example - 45 mio. $ barely buys you one high-rise with 126 apartments in Lagos:



http://www.property24.com.ng/126-bedroom...-104643739

Some African countries for example had this strange anomaly of the highest exclusive champagne consumption in the world, since their corrupt elite were drinking it like beer for thousands of dollars a pop.

Post: #34

The money wasn't just stumbled upon. Nigeria is on a tear now trying to recover looted monies.
They have initiated a whistle blower program where you're entitled to 5% of any recovered loot your tips helps to find. I am 100% sure the money was under 24/7 surveillance, no way that money was just sitting there and anyone just had access to it.

http://saharareporters.com/2017/04/17/wh...seized-50m
http://whistle.finance.gov.ng/Pages/default.aspx

Post: #35

Let us be real here. Apartments full of foreign currency is nothing new in those parts of Africa. This "Anti-Corruption" unit will take the funds and split it amongst themselves and toss most up to their higher-ups. Lawmakers and officials rely on imports of cash and money laundering to gain access to outside currency. It is too expensive to trade local bills for USD or Euros so they rely on the black market to get better rates.

The person in question could have gotten all of these LE officials to go away with $1million USD. This is all a set-up. Either somebody did not pay someone who was important, or the "anti-corruption" LE officials are in on it to pad their own wallets. Everything and everyone is for sale in that country.

Post: #36

So there was the money that prince owed me...

Post: #37

43

Million

"That money could have done a lot to help the community"

"I'd have taken some money and left the rest after calling in a tip".

"The unit that discovered it will have divied it up amongst themselves".

?

Want to bet it was originally 50 million?

Or are these billionaires from corruption in the habit of storing odd non whole numbers in US currency?

I would take as much money as I could, get as far away as I could, stash it, bury it deep in the ground after taking as much as I think I could back with me on a plane to a safer country possibly with a US embassy presence.

Then I'd start cracking on a plan to get that money out.

Rent a private jet with the 50k or so dollars I'd need.

Get ahold of some old ranger buddies to come back with me and get it.

Buy some properties in some desirable 3rd world locations cash.

Stash money securely in each location.

Post: #38

There is corruption everywhere. Do politicians in America and Europe steal the taxpayers money? Do they loot the Treasury? Maybe the steal but not as much. Perhaps they steal and start meaningful businesses instead of buying champagne.

Post: #39

(04-17-2017 02:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  There are a myriad ways of legalizing even a larger sum like 40 mio. $. The only difficulty is smuggling the cash out of the country, but even that is not a terribly big problem.

Such as? I'm on a crime show binge (Ozark, Sopranos) so I'm fascinated by things like this.

Post: #40

(08-01-2017 09:51 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 02:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  There are a myriad ways of legalizing even a larger sum like 40 mio. $. The only difficulty is smuggling the cash out of the country, but even that is not a terribly big problem.

Such as? I'm on a crime show binge (Ozark, Sopranos) so I'm fascinated by things like this.

PM me.

I can wash it for you.

Post: #41

(08-01-2017 10:03 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 09:51 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 02:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  There are a myriad ways of legalizing even a larger sum like 40 mio. $. The only difficulty is smuggling the cash out of the country, but even that is not a terribly big problem.

Such as? I'm on a crime show binge (Ozark, Sopranos) so I'm fascinated by things like this.

PM me.

I can wash it for you.

Post: #42

(08-01-2017 10:03 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(08-01-2017 09:51 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 02:43 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  There are a myriad ways of legalizing even a larger sum like 40 mio. $. The only difficulty is smuggling the cash out of the country, but even that is not a terribly big problem.

Such as? I'm on a crime show binge (Ozark, Sopranos) so I'm fascinated by things like this.

PM me.

I can wash it for you.

I am sure that this guy knows how it's done.

Also those 3 banks would know too since they were caught laundering cash - the only downside to them was, that they paid some fines:



Ozark-style restaurant-money-laundering is so low-key retro:

Post: #43

Step 1: Buy a carwash.

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Profit.

Post: #44

Oh yeah, Zel, I read about some big banks laundering money for cartels. How the fuck does that even work? How is that "connection" initiated? Can't wrap my head around it.

Post: #45

(04-17-2017 03:55 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 03:18 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Of course I did not mean by it to keep it in Nigeria.

Like any other wealthy Nigerian you move it out of the country

Personally, I'd start sending emails to help recruit people to help me move it out of the country.



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I've been trying that for 15 years and it never works! Everybody calls me a bullshitter.

Post: #46

(08-01-2017 10:35 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  Oh yeah, Zel, I read about some big banks laundering money for cartels. How the fuck does that even work? How is that "connection" initiated? Can't wrap my head around it.

Well - it makes perfect sense you believe the "alternative" or rather real historians and time witnesses of our world. An inkling into it now already surfaces where they more or less admit that the cartels are partly CIA controlled. The funny part is that the big boys can probably pay in truck loads of cash into bank accounts and no one cares.

Those banks including Wells Fargo laundered billions - at least tens of billions if not more. A car wash or other cash businesses are for smaller less connected operators.

Because if you think about it - it could not possibly be possible to clean tens of billions by one bank alone if the government was really watching over every fucking 10.000$ transaction - it may very well do so, but only for the shmucks at the bottom.

The mid- tier players now use either large cash businesses in countries where US currency is legal tender, but the accounting rules are far more lax. Also some of the mid-tier players seem to be using digital currencies which can mask the flow of currencies.

The low-tier ones and small fish use the usual restaurants and clubs. That is where I met a few - most of you may have even been in such establishments unknowingly.

Post: #47

(08-01-2017 10:17 AM)Suits Wrote:  Step 1: Buy a carwash. establish anonymous bitcoin marketplace.

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Profit.

Fixed that for you.

Post: #48

(04-19-2017 05:54 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  So there was the money that prince owed me...

Post: #49

Start buying gold with the cash, craigslist, pawn shops, coin shops, flea markets, anywhere that takes cash.

At the same time, spend a year or two becoming a bonified treasure hunter. Learn all about it, maybe go on a few treasure hunting excursions and holidays, tell all your friends and co-workers about your new hobby non-stop.

Make sure you are fully researched on the appropriate state level and regional treasure hunting and taxation jurisdiction rules.
Bury the gold, for real, on the correct lands, and then a few months later go find it. Claim it, get in the news, pay the minimal tax you need to pay, and keep the rest, converting to legit American dollars.