Post: #1

Russian government media don't show this.
I don't know what You think guys,but i hate corruption. Eastern Europe,and post soviet countries are so corrupted that you can't imagine.
Moscow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEYGeB6XfgE

Vladivostok:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAy1RZLHMLA

There are videos on Youtube from other cities too...

Post: #2

^ where have you been, there has been a live coverage of it on RT all day. Navalny led protests to target Medvedev' corruption. I think he has too much baggage now for Putin, be interesting if Putin still runs with him as the second man for election next year.

@RussianMarket is a great twitter account to follow.

Post: #3

700 arrested by Riot police, among them a lot of journalists and the main opposition party leader.

Post: #4

I wasn't aware, but Russia would have good reason to have a media blackout. Check out the corruption perceptions index.

Quote:Transparency International (TI) has published the Corruption Perceptions Index ( CPI) since 1996, annually ranking countries "by their perceived levels of corruption, as determined by expert assessments and opinion surveys." [1] The CPI generally defines corruption as "the misuse of public power for private benefit." [2]
The CPI currently ranks 168 countries "on a scale from 100 (very clean) to 0 (highly corrupt)."

Russia has a score of 29. The United States has 74, and India , Brazil and China all score 40.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupti...ions_Index

Post: #5

Russia's at 29, Good Old Mexico comes in at 30. Lol.

Should be more like 10, and the number falls the closer to the border you get.

If you're a prisoner with money, the number should be 0.

If you're in DF, its maybe 50.

Post: #6

(03-26-2017 01:27 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  I wasn't aware, but Russia would have good reason to have a media blackout. Check out the corruption perceptions index.

Quote:Transparency International (TI) has published the Corruption Perceptions Index ( CPI) since 1996, annually ranking countries "by their perceived levels of corruption, as determined by expert assessments and opinion surveys." [1] The CPI generally defines corruption as "the misuse of public power for private benefit." [2]
The CPI currently ranks 168 countries "on a scale from 100 (very clean) to 0 (highly corrupt)."

Russia has a score of 29. The United States has 74, and India , Brazil and China all score 40.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupti...ions_Index

I don't know anything about Russian corruption, but if you come in here yelling, "See the story the Russian media doesn't want you to know!" and it's on freaking RT.com, I can't help but think that A.) you have no idea what you're talking about or B.) you may have motives beyond a simple desire to spread awareness about illegal corruption.

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Post: #8

So if I visit Russia, what kind of corruption will I usually have to deal with? What bribes might I be forced to pay etc?

Post: #9

Below is the video which was one of the reasons for yesterday´s protests. It uncovers prime minister`s Medvedev´s business empire and how he runs it. The video is quite long but it has sub titles and is highly informative. The guy in the video is Alexej Nawalny. He got arrested yesterday before he made it to the protests. He wants to run against Putin in the elections next year, but highly doubt he will be allowed. I even would not be surprised if he has a car accident or suffers a heart attack before the elections.

Post: #10

So spontaneous!

Post: #11

(03-27-2017 07:23 AM)superschalk Wrote:  Below is the video which was one of the reasons for yesterday´s protests. It uncovers prime minister`s Medvedev´s business empire and how he runs it. The video is quite long but it has sub titles and is highly informative. The guy in the video is Alexej Nawalny. He got arrested yesterday before he made it to the protests. He wants to run against Putin in the elections next year, but highly doubt he will be allowed. I even would not be surprised if he has a car accident or suffers a heart attack before the elections.

Just following up with Richard Spencer' (ex?) wife, she says the more recognition Navalny gets in the West, the less Russians actually want to vote for him.

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that Navalny was extra nationalist, furious at number of Muslims and illegal aliens in Moscow from Central Asian countries, and even wanted to give away Chechnya and build a border around it, last year.

Nina calls him a globalist here, maybe something has changed since he's become more favorable with the West as face of Anti-Kremlin person, as opposed to ((( Kasparov ))).

Be great to know more in depth details and knowledge about Navalny and his policies.

Here is from WikiLeaks:

Post: #12

(03-26-2017 01:27 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  I wasn't aware, but Russia would have good reason to have a media blackout. Check out the corruption perceptions index.

Quote:Transparency International (TI) has published the Corruption Perceptions Index ( CPI) since 1996, annually ranking countries "by their perceived levels of corruption, as determined by expert assessments and opinion surveys." [1] The CPI generally defines corruption as "the misuse of public power for private benefit." [2]
The CPI currently ranks 168 countries "on a scale from 100 (very clean) to 0 (highly corrupt)."

Russia has a score of 29. The United States has 74, and India , Brazil and China all score 40.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupti...ions_Index

Maybe it should be called "corruption sophistication index". The US is corrupt as hell, but is generally a lot harder to see and prove. In a less sophisticated system, you know exactly how you are getting screwed. In the US, it's generally more hidden, so you know you are getting screwed but it's a lot harder to pin down and prove exactly how.

The level of sophistication is similar to the difference between an old school dictatorship where everyone knows who is in charge and they maintain rule by brute force, vs modern politics where you have a democracy and mass media and pervasive clouds of bullshit and obfuscation and the people with real power stay in the shadows so the most you can do is take down their puppets.

Also, on a more straightforward level, some people will say that in many cultures, what the US considers bribery is really just part of the compensation for many jobs, kind of like tipping a waiter. Why should you have to bribe someone to give you a license for [xxx], they should just do their job. Why should you have to bribe a waitress to bring you food, they should just do their job. It probably makes more sense to just pay them more and expect them to perform, but then the money for additional compensation has to come from somewhere, and you have to effectively evaluate if they are doing their job. I'm not trying to defend a model that includes bribery, I'm just sharing the perspective I've heard.

Post: #13

(03-27-2017 07:28 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  So spontaneous!

Yes, it definitely isn't Soros and it definitely isn't co-ordinated with protests in Belarus.

Post: #14

(03-26-2017 08:13 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 01:27 PM)brick tamland Wrote:  I wasn't aware, but Russia would have good reason to have a media blackout. Check out the corruption perceptions index.

Quote:Transparency International (TI) has published the Corruption Perceptions Index ( CPI) since 1996, annually ranking countries "by their perceived levels of corruption, as determined by expert assessments and opinion surveys." [1] The CPI generally defines corruption as "the misuse of public power for private benefit." [2]
The CPI currently ranks 168 countries "on a scale from 100 (very clean) to 0 (highly corrupt)."

Russia has a score of 29. The United States has 74, and India , Brazil and China all score 40.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupti...ions_Index

I don't know anything about Russian corruption, but if you come in here yelling, "See the story the Russian media doesn't want you to know!" and it's on freaking RT.com, I can't help but think that A.) you have no idea what you're talking about or B.) you may have motives beyond a simple desire to spread awareness about illegal corruption.

You should have quoted OP's post. I'm not the OP.

Post: #15

I am really intrigued about what is going on:

- Navalny is an ethnic nationalist, unlike Putin. However:
- The demonstration were against Medvedev, who (according to The Saker) represents the Western/Globalist faction, while Putin represents the Eurasian Souvereignity faction.

Huh?

Post: #16

Maybe there's some sort of double play at hand here, as in Putin is inciting Navalny to protest to bring down Medvedev who has become a threat?

Post: #17

According to Wiki, Navalny has exposed (((Vekselberg))), (((Abramovich))) and other oligarch dealings with government and he is actually an ethnic nationalist, so the plot thickens.

Post: #18

Medvedev is a patsy. In cartoons he is always represented as either the child playing with toys or as the ventriloquist dummy. He is no threat, he's a puppet and gets to enjoy the lifestyle perks so long as he is useful. He played "president" for a while because he served as Putin's foil in the role of a nominally pro-western leader.

I believe Navalny is a patriot, but he is a liberal by Russian standards and has western backing. Putin's system is built on loyalty, those useful get compensated via kickbacks, corruption, and living above the laws. Navalny wants a transparent, western-like system with accountability, and represents people who want to get their tax dollars' worth. However, foreign policy and security is not his strong point for obvious reasons. He's the most likely leader for the opposition, and because of that, he is under close watch.

Due to his visibility, if there ever were a color revolution in Moscow and Navalny took helm, Navalny would probably be the first to catch a "stray" bullet or enjoy some polonium tea.

Post: #19

(03-26-2017 11:25 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  So if I visit Russia, what kind of corruption will I usually have to deal with? What bribes might I be forced to pay etc?

Mostly likely none. I was there 4-5 months and had one interaction with the police. In Moscow, I was walking down the street and was stopped by the police, after a brief inspection of my passport and some minor questioning (why I was in Russia) I was on my way.

Obviously Small Sample Size and others can share their experiences but I think this is a completely overblown thought unless you are engaged in illegal or shady activities.

Post: #20

This seems like old news, and Dmitry Anatolyevich is back showing his swag among his buddies...

Post: #21

(03-26-2017 11:25 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  So if I visit Russia, what kind of corruption will I usually have to deal with? What bribes might I be forced to pay etc?

Phoenix, chances are you meet no corruption at all. It was in the 90s when people were afraid of policemen who extorted bribes from the people, now Putin changed the situation a lot. Now they have even created a "touristic police" which is supposed to speak english

In all that "transparency ratings" Russia is somewhere in the middle of Africa, I wish to see the guys that rank Russia this way would choose where to live - in Moscow, or in Gabon or Lesotho which are considered less corrupted than Russia.

Post: #22

(03-29-2017 07:42 PM)polar Wrote:  I believe Navalny is a patriot, but he is a liberal by Russian standards and has western backing. Putin's system is built on loyalty, those useful get compensated via kickbacks, corruption, and living above the laws. Navalny wants a transparent, western-like system with accountability, and represents people who want to get their tax dollars' worth. However, foreign policy and security is not his strong point for obvious reasons. He's the most likely leader for the opposition, and because of that, he is under close watch.

Navalny along with his friends are people closely related to Yetlsin's government.
Navalny was an advocate of Khodorkovsky, No1 Yeltsin's oligarch, blamed in murders and scams.
Nemtsov (RIP) - ex minister in Yeltsin's government, ex gubernor of Nizhniy Novgorod.
Kasyanov - ex prime minister in Yeltsin's government.

These guys have nothing in common with Russian nationalism (Khodorkovsky and Nemtsov are jews, just like the biggest part of pro-western parties and their media support in Russia).
These guys also have nothing in common with "transparency" (KHodorkovsky was accused in murdering a mayor of a town who tried to force him to pay taxes, Yetlsin government officers are well-known for extreme corruption, Navalny himself is a person convicted twice for fraud, one of the cases is when he acted along with his old friend, another Yeltsin's times ghost Belov, a gobernor which was caught recently accepting bribe).

Its funny, but the only true pro-western politician is Putin, who still tries to convince Russian nation that living in a western way is possible.. without gangsters such as Khodorkovsky, or rogues such as Navalny..

Post: #23

(04-02-2017 04:58 PM)TheMoscower Wrote:  Navalny himself is a person convicted twice for fraud, one of the cases is when he acted along with his old friend, another Yeltsin's times ghost Belov, a gobernor which was caught recently accepting bribe).

Details? I've heard of the timer case which is likely politically motivated, not use what other one you're referring to.

Post: #24

I'm confused as to whether Navalny is a globalist, ethno-nationalist, left-wing, right-wing or an alien from Mars, but the fact that western MSM loves him is enough to give me serious doubts about him. Thanks but no thanks, I'll stick with Putin.