Post: #26

A attack on a elderly person in front of me will result in my personal intervention.

Post: #27

It was probably just a shouting match that escalated into the liberal hater shoving Savage on his ass, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten away with it, bystanders would have intervened. The report is a bit incoherent and over the top: "Savage was not seriously hurt, but the incident left him bloodied and shaken", I mean if he's been hit hard enough to be bloodied, he's got to be hurt...

Post: #28

The lesson here is that if you live in California, you can expect no police protection when somebody attacks you. The government will only try to prosecute you if you defend yourself. People need to be aware that when the local politicians are communists, they control the prosecutors and the police, and you are in a dangerous situation. Blaming Savage for this is just blaming the person who was attacked. Sometimes I think George Zimmerman is the only man left in the United States.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/savage-its-op...upporters/

Post: #29

(03-17-2017 01:34 PM)911 Wrote:  It was probably just a shouting match that escalated into the liberal hater shoving Savage on his ass, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten away with it, bystanders would have intervened. The report is a bit incoherent and over the top: "Savage was not seriously hurt, but the incident left him bloodied and shaken", I mean if he's been hit hard enough to be bloodied, he's got to be hurt...

Something is fishy about how this is being reported, and I am getting the feeling that the police and the papers feel the same way about Savage that the police in San Jose felt about Trump supporters in the run up to the election.

I have been checking and the suspect hasn't been named, and it seems like every article headline says something like: "Savage Claims to Have Been Attacked."

Either he was attacked or he wasn't, and unless he was alone in a closed restaurant with his attacker, there were plenty of witnesses, and a police report.

No real reporting is being done because of the identity of the victim.

Post: #30

I'm glad Savage wasn't hurt and I hope they nail that scumbag.

Savage was a huge proponent of Trump from the beginning and interviewed Trump on his radio show many times throughout the campaign.

At a recent dinner at Mara Lago, President Trump proclaimed, "I wouldn't be President without this man." referring to Dr. Savage.

The President then invited the radio talk show host to dessert, where they conversed over ice cream for about an hour. Here's a photo from the event. Savage is to the left of Trump:

Post: #31

I hope Savage presses charges and/or sues the guy. Savage himself has some big money, maybe this incident will encourage him to fund more lawsuits against violent leftists.

Post: #32

I find these attacks very troubling. I read various comments about the Spencer "attack" when that happened and many people (who presumably describe themselves as tolerant) justified it by saying he's a Nazi and therefore deserves to be physically attacked.

I thought about it this way - let's say for the sake of argument that Michael Savage is truly a Nazi, the equivalent of Goebbels and that Spencer is the reincarnation of Hitler. OK. Now let's go back to the late 1920's when the Nazis were starting to gain mainstream acceptance along with seats in the government. Would people running up and punching Hitler and other leading party members have made the movement stronger or weaker? Would it have gained them more or less support? It's just a thought experiment of course, but I think the answer it pretty obvious. First Amendment protections make this country great and I'm quite wary of any attempts to legally bar so called hate speech. Why not refute someone's hateful points instead of just hitting them? What does resorting to unprovoked violence say about the logical weight of your convictions? People publicly complained so bitterly about Obama and called him every horrible name in the book, but the irony is that they were free to do so without any consequences. Try doing that in North Korea or any number of authoritarian hellholes.

Regardless of anyone's political views, Savage is highly intelligent and a great entertainer. For my money he's the only political commentator on the radio worth listening to as I find Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Limbaugh etc. to be quite unbearable along with Ed Schultz and whoever else the other side has come up with. I haven't listened in several years, but it was refreshing to hear him talk about "Republicrats and Demicans" even if he does usually end up promoting the GOP in the end.

Post: #33

Savage had his lawyer on his show (below link) explaining why this guy wasn't arrested after assaulting Savage, punching a bystander who tried to step in, and kicking his dog. The liberals have tilted the system so far to favoring the criminals, if someone attacks you they are unlikely to get arrested. The law is an ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLwQcH9AIQ&t=257s

Also, here is an excellent talk you need to listen to from George Zimmerman. He explains the lengths the state took to put an innocent man in jail. His lawyer said that leading experts from all over the world worked on the trial without cost, because they were so concerned their science was being damaged as the state intentionally tried to doctor data and use false science to convict Zimmerman.

http://www.vdare.com/posts/george-zimmer...ns-learned

Post: #34

(03-19-2017 05:29 PM)Sherman Wrote:  Savage had his lawyer on his show (below link) explaining why this guy wasn't arrested after assaulting Savage, punching a bystander who tried to step in, and kicking his dog. The liberals have tilted the system so far to favoring the criminals, if someone attacks you they are unlikely to get arrested. The law is an ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLwQcH9AIQ&t=257s

Ok, I listened to this conversation between Savage and his lawyer and the situation is pretty much as has been speculated in this thread.

He was at a restaurant having a drink with his dog and someone approached him calling him by his real name not stage name. As Savage tried to leave the restaurant, the guy followed him and assaulted him. Savage is in his seventies, and the guy was decades younger and a foot taller than him, and Savage had his hands full with a package and his dog's leash. So, a typical brave SJW manifesting his truth. (You just do you!)

Guy harasses Savage, who tells him to leave him alone, and then guy kicks the dog out of the way, knocks Savage to the ground, and then then punches a Good Samaritan who tries to intervene.

The reason this account is credible is it is a conversation with his lawyer, on the air, and they are obviously looking ahead to their case. Doubtful they will say anything they can't back up.

So, cops come and say they can't arrest the guy because without blood or broken bones, this is a misdemeanor. If Savage had gone to the hospital, they might have had something to go on.

This is a part of the law that is baffling to me, that this guy can basically attack a dog, a man, another man, but they can't arrest him because they are only misdemeanors? Can he just wander around all night punching people like Steven Seagal as long as they don't bleed?



They tell Savage he can make a citizen's arrest, so he does, and the attacker does too, saying Savage threw the first punch, and so no one is arrested, and everything is up in the air.

Savage and his lawyer hire an investigator, and they say that everyone in the restaurant backs up his version. Doubt they would lie about that on the air.

Savage confirmed what I was saying about Tiburon, this shit doesn't happen there, and he has never seen the guy before. In fact, this being Northern California, his lawyer was saying that kicking the dog out of the way might be the more serious crime because it is animal cruelty.

Also, it is obvious that the media is downplaying the whole thing because Savage is Media Non Grata, and he even says he saw one news piece that describes the attack as "allegedly reportedly attacked."

This kind of explains why there is no mention of attacker's name. And Savage and his lawyer are preparing themselves for something criminal or civil against the guy.

They were also discussing that the fact that the guy was calling him out on his politics makes it a free speech issue and maybe they can make a federal case.

First they punched Nazi's and it was ok because evil, and then they beat women with sticks at the Milo Berkeley speech because satisfying, now they are attacking old Jewish men (Jewish Nazi, right), because delusional.

Post: #35

This is another reason why conservative men need to live in conservative states that allow personal carry of a firearm.

An elderly/older man is justified in use of deadly force against an aggressive younger attacker. That is textbook and classic disparity of force. Trash like this only yield to power. This person needed a trip to St. Peter, but he only did this because he knows he is safe to do so in places like San Francisco.

I may have a bunch of black belts, but I am not fist fighting a bunch of dudes in America. I will brandish before they hit me and if they are still stupid enough to charge, they will die. It's me or them, I could care less. Given my age and my level of fitness one attacker does not justify the use of deadly force unless he is many times larger than me in every category, but I like my chances against one guy anyway.

Post: #36

Michael Savage, believe it or not, has a concealed carry permit, and he mentioned it on that podcast. He said that he never brings it to a restaurant, and I am not sure this is because it is against the law, which wouldn't surprise me in Tiburon, CA, or because he prefers not to.

I keep harping on this, but Tiburon is a super rich/liberal place, and I would doubt that a fire arm has been fired there in fifty years by anyone other than a police officer, if that.

They would have pilloried him if he had done that. I am not disagreeing with you, just saying that the discharge of a weapon in that community would lead to ostracism, as they like to think they are the forward thinking rich people, and they pay millions of dollars to hide in their gated homes and feel like they are part of the solution and not the problem.

I guarantee you the locals were more worried about whether his dog was hurt than if he was. That would have been the move. Pretend his dog was teetering on the edge of life from stress. That would have gotten public sympathy.

He was in a no win situation.

Post: #37

He didn't bring the gun in a restaurant because he said there is a law against carrying when you are drinking in a restaurant (or something like that). If he had defended himself just by smacking the guy, there is little doubt in my mind that he would have been arrested. The government absolutely hates it when people defend themselves.

Post: #38

A woman in Texas lost her parents to an omega loser shooter many years ago, for us Texans to have the right to carry in a restaurant. California is hostile towards carry rights. That is the risk and the trash knows where they are safe in there to hurt others.

Post: #39

Quote:So, cops come and say they can't arrest the guy because without blood or broken bones, this is a misdemeanor.

Holy fuck, you can't get arrested for misdemeanors in Commiefornia? God damn, what a shithole... Any Republican state and you're looking at up to a year in jail.

Post: #40

Update. No charges for attacker.

http://www.marinij.com/government-and-po...ost_viewed

Pure coincidence that the dude who went after him is the 65 year old heir to the Spreckels sugar fortune, and, in the article is humbly referred to as:

Quote:John Spreckles Rosekrans, a Mill Valley resident.

Because it is the local paper, of course commenters are mostly attacking Savage, although there are some gripes about mountain bikes thrown in.

Good one though about half way down:

Quote:Justice was denied because Rosekranz's family is old SF old German old Hawaii Sugar Baron money. Old man Spreckels specious, spoiled trust-fund ignorant spawn wins because old money buys justice in the Bay Area, in California, despite the ultra-liberal spoutings of the Tiburon hypocrites, this Rosekranz bully can do whatever he wants in CA, he'll always walk away free.

Pretty funny how the heir of a multi-generational fortune can suddenly be considered down with the cause as long as he is against a Trump supporter.

Post: #41

Nuke California now.