Post: #3001

If the left hates Peterson, he can't be all bad. But anyone who takes Freud and Jung seriously is not good for men.

Post: #3002

Jordan peterson hates white nationalism and is a globalist shill


Thank you for publishing this. There is however an error in the article with regards to which UN panel Peterson was associated with and what document they released. Here is the current research with the correct details about Peterson's UN work:

Peterson worked for the United Nations for three years and has ties to some serious globalist think tanks, specifically George Soros' INET (Institute for New Economic Thinking), and CIGI (Centre for International Governance Innovation). He was a UN adviser to Jim Balsillie (ex-CEO of RIM/Blackberry), who was working on a UN panel called 'The United Nations Secretary-General's High-Level Panel on Global Sustainability'. This UN panel produced a document that is essentially a Marxist NWO blueprint, and this document was later built upon and referenced by a UN panel that John Podesta sat on called 'The United Nations High-Level Panel of Eminent Persons On the Post-2015 Development Agenda'. Both of these panels laid the groundwork for the 'United Nations 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development'.

Jim Balsillie is the founder of CIGI and co-founded INET with George Soros. CIGI is in fact partnered with and receives funding from INET, as well as from the Clinton Foundation. CIGI is a major Marxist globalist NWO think tank, involved with the G20, and it even appears to have some sort of ties to the CIA. Balsillie had two additional UN advisers (Paul Jenkins, Simon Zadek) and a UN "sherpa" (David Runnalls) in addition to Peterson while working at the UN, and all three of them were from CIGI.

Now listen to this, the founder of the 'Intellectual Dark Web' is none other than Eric Weinstein, and he's listed as an official "expert" at INET. So not only is Peterson tied to INET through Balsillie, this 'Intellectual Dark Web' garbage he's a part of is the spawn of a Soros INET think tank expert.

Here is where things start to get really weird. Last year when Peterson testified at the Bill C-16 senate hearing, he had a brief debate with a senator named Ratna Omidvar, a woman who was arguing in favor of Bill C-16. It just so turns out that Ratna Omidvar is involved with CIGI and another globalist enterprise of Jim Balsillie's called 'Balsillie School of International Affairs'. Omidvar is a hardcore Marxist who runs something called the 'Maytree Foundation'.

A psychiatrist by the name of Norman Doidge, a personal colleague of Peterson's who he's sometimes given talks with, wrote the foreword to Peterson's new book '12 Rules for Life'. He too is involved with CIGI, and just as recently as February of this year did an interview in The Globe and Mail with Jim Balsillie (about smart phone addiction). In that very foreword, Doidge writes that a TV producer named Wodek Szemberg who is "always on the lookout for potential public intellectuals" met Peterson in 2004. Szemberg worked at TV Ontario for a man named Steve Paikin producing a show called 'The Agenda' which has more than once been involved with CIGI, including once in 2009 when CIGI hosted the show.

Are you beginning to see the bigger picture? Peterson is deeply involved with powerful globalist oligarchs and Marxists while pretending to be against the very plans that those same people and their think tanks and foundations are working towards. Peterson has sort of tried to minimize his work done for the UN by stating that he rewrote the document they produced to "remove the ideological clap trap", but the document is nevertheless a Marxist globalist NWO artifact. In reality, Peterson proudly lists working for the UN with Jim Balsillie under his credentials, and his colleagues and network to this day are directly tied to Jim Balsillie's and George Soros' globalist think tanks.



JBP is a globalist shill

Post: #3003

Good post alecks.

For some reason, your link landed on this URL on my Firefox browser:

http://www.https.com//www.eurocanadian.c...shill.html

I had to change it by hand to http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2018/05/jorda...shill.html in order to get there.

Post: #3004

^ well explained alecks.

The left hate of JP is fake news and JP serves as a honeypot for men who are curious about the state of the world, and they end with the advice which is a euphemism for please go be an incel: clean your room. I doubt he is an evil man, but he is an academic who has raised a kind of devils advocate, caution against extreme aspects of the left because he knows it renders the left ineffective. It is the ineffectiveness he is really against. He is an employee of the Canadian government and good employees do what they are told to do.

That being said, Vox Day is an unoriginal "thinker" who probably scours this forum and the net for new ideas. He chose Peterson hate because he seems envious of any internet personality with more likes than he has. He criticizes people in by saying how few books they wrote, and how he "doesn't care" about how many viewers he has etc. He cares very much, but will always be limited to around the # of views of a hamster jumping in slow motion video because that's about how many people can stand male whining.

Post: #3005

I don't know much about Vox OtR, but his analysis of Peterson here, which I came across recently, is actually pretty good, and he brings forwards points about Peterson here that others haven't properly addressed (surprisingly this is from an Alex Jones program):

Post: #3006

(03-23-2019 10:20 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  ^ well explained alecks.

The left hate of JP is fake news and JP serves as a honeypot for men who are curious about the state of the world, and they end with the advice which is a euphemism for please go be an incel: clean your room. I doubt he is an evil man, but he is an academic who has raised a kind of devils advocate, caution against extreme aspects of the left because he knows it renders the left ineffective. It is the ineffectiveness he is really against. He is an employee of the Canadian government and good employees do what they are told to do.

That being said, Vox Day is an unoriginal "thinker" who probably scours this forum and the net for new ideas. He chose Peterson hate because he seems envious of any internet personality with more likes than he has. He criticizes people in by saying how few books they wrote, and how he "doesn't care" about how many viewers he has etc. He cares very much, but will always be limited to around the # of views of a hamster jumping in slow motion video because that's about how many people can stand male whining.

I think the idea-pollination goes more often in the other direction. We have an entire thread dedicated to a concept that he invented.

That said, I also think it's unfair to ridicule Peterson for being pissed off about how he's being treated. If you've been smeared or deplatformed in some manner, writing something to clarify what happened, and dismiss the gossip, is normal behaviour. Or if it isn't, I'm a gamma male too. It's sad how many Internet losers love to spread libel.

Post: #3007

Anybody want to guess at the psychology behind Peterson advertising Vox's book?

Post: #3008

(03-23-2019 06:50 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Anybody want to guess at the psychology behind Peterson advertising Vox's book?

Low ability to perceive long-term consequences. Or maybe high confidence that signalling against the alt-right would give him more benefits from above.

Post: #3009

He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

Those of you who overthink this very simple matter are like the tinfoil hat brigade of Internet 1.0. Too much autism, not enough common sense.

Post: #3010

Peterson: "I'm not alt-right, pleeeeaasse belieeeeve meeeee!!!!"

Media:

Post: #3011

(03-23-2019 09:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

Those of you who overthink this very simple matter are like the tinfoil hat brigade of Internet 1.0. Too much autism, not enough common sense.

The point is Jordanetics is very convincing. Thus it theoretically should be a mistake for him to promote it.

Post: #3012

(03-23-2019 09:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

What does it prove ?

Doesn't everybody on the right hate everybody else on the right anyway ?

Post: #3013

(03-24-2019 06:05 AM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 09:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

What does it prove ?

Doesn't everybody on the right hate everybody else on the right anyway ?

The overton window is so far left these days that you have dudes "on the right" who think gay marriage is swell.

Jump in a time machine and get out 100 years in the past. You'll soon see that the modern right is actually comprised mostly of historically left wing thinkers.

Post: #3014

(03-24-2019 03:51 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 09:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

Those of you who overthink this very simple matter are like the tinfoil hat brigade of Internet 1.0. Too much autism, not enough common sense.

The point is Jordanetics is very convincing. Thus it theoretically should be a mistake for him to promote it.

The fact of the matter is that JP doesn't see Vox as much of a threat...because Vox isn't much of threat. In fact, Vox accounts for so little that JP has made the calculation that it costs him absolutely nothing at all to use him as a (not very effective, it's true) meat shield. But JP doesn't expect to convince anyone in the media that he's not alt-right---the key for JP is simply to resist as energetically and tirelessly as he is able and to let the chips fall where they may.

If you're the kind of person that finds Jordanetics "very convincing" then, yeah, I can totally see why you don't get it.

Post: #3015

Not only do you have dudes on the "right" that think "gay marriage" is swell, you have dudes who are "gay married" too, like Milo, with which Vox happily associates with. Hard to take Vox seriously because of this.

Post: #3016

(03-24-2019 08:49 AM)Buck Wild Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 03:51 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 09:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

Those of you who overthink this very simple matter are like the tinfoil hat brigade of Internet 1.0. Too much autism, not enough common sense.

The point is Jordanetics is very convincing. Thus it theoretically should be a mistake for him to promote it.

The fact of the matter is that JP doesn't see Vox as much of a threat...because Vox isn't much of threat. In fact, Vox accounts for so little that JP has made the calculation that it costs him absolutely nothing at all to use him as a (not very effective, it's true) meat shield. But JP doesn't expect to convince anyone in the media that he's not alt-right---the key for JP is simply to resist as energetically and tirelessly as he is able and to let the chips fall where they may.

If you're the kind of person that finds Jordanetics "very convincing" then, yeah, I can totally see why you don't get it.

Honestly it also doesn't hurt anyone to bring attention to Vox Day as a representative of the alt-right. On alt-right issues he tends to be principled and logical, moreso than someone like Richard Spencer who tends toward ideological rhetoric and sensational attention whoring.

Post: #3017

(03-24-2019 09:08 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Not only do you have dudes on the "right" that think "gay marriage" is swell, you have dudes who are "gay married" too, like Milo, with which Vox happily associates with. Hard to take Vox seriously because of this.

I mean... hate the sin not the sinner is very standard Christian ideology

(03-24-2019 06:05 AM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 09:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

What does it prove ?

Doesn't everybody on the right hate everybody else on the right anyway ?

No. Well, I can't speak for everyone on the right anyway. But that's not been my experience.

(03-24-2019 08:49 AM)Buck Wild Wrote:  The fact of the matter is that JP doesn't see Vox as much of a threat...because Vox isn't much of threat. In fact, Vox accounts for so little that JP has made the calculation that it costs him absolutely nothing at all to use him as a (not very effective, it's true) meat shield. But JP doesn't expect to convince anyone in the media that he's not alt-right---the key for JP is simply to resist as energetically and tirelessly as he is able and to let the chips fall where they may.

If you're the kind of person that finds Jordanetics "very convincing" then, yeah, I can totally see why you don't get it.

I got a couple normie friends who were into JP to read Jordanetics. Non-political/super right leaning for the most part but obviously willing to think a bit since they were interested in JP in the first place. They found it convincing. My social circle is relatively small.

It might be a small sample size, but I genuinely believe if I were in JP's position I would try as hard as possible not to give Jordanetics exposure, and it would be a long term mistake. Granted people don't read much but whatever.

Post: #3018

(03-24-2019 12:32 PM)Blaster Wrote:  Honestly it also doesn't hurt anyone to bring attention to Vox Day as a representative of the alt-right. On alt-right issues he tends to be principled and logical, moreso than someone like Richard Spencer who tends toward ideological rhetoric and sensational attention whoring.

There is some truth to this. Spencer's public advocacy of the alt-right has been so disastrous that Vox Day can hardly be considered a downgrade.

Post: #3019

(03-24-2019 03:51 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 09:47 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He's simply showing that the Alt-Right hates him, despite the media desperately trying to say that JP is Alt-Right.

Those of you who overthink this very simple matter are like the tinfoil hat brigade of Internet 1.0. Too much autism, not enough common sense.

The point is Jordanetics is very convincing. Thus it theoretically should be a mistake for him to promote it.

Going out of your way to hide criticism is rather contrary to Peterson's approach to free speech and argument.

Post: #3020

(03-23-2019 10:23 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Peterson: "I'm not alt-right, pleeeeaasse belieeeeve meeeee!!!!"

Media: Laughs

Are you suggesting that Peterson should just bend over and take it when the media outright lies about him, then? What is the point of this post?

Post: #3021

(03-24-2019 12:32 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 09:08 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Not only do you have dudes on the "right" that think "gay marriage" is swell, you have dudes who are "gay married" too, like Milo, with which Vox happily associates with. Hard to take Vox seriously because of this.

I mean... hate the sin not the sinner is very standard Christian ideology

It's not about hating/not hating, it's about endorsing his persona and the kind of degeneracy that completely defines him, a world in which a grown man molesting a 12 year old boy is just fine.

"Conservatives" are basically people who espouse leftists hand me down social policies from the last decade or two.

Post: #3022

(03-24-2019 01:50 PM)911 Wrote:  It's not about hating/not hating, it's about endorsing his persona and the kind of degeneracy that completely defines him, a world in which a grown man molesting a 12 year old boy is just fine.

Might be time to take a break from the internet.

Post: #3023

(03-24-2019 01:50 PM)911 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 12:32 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 09:08 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  Not only do you have dudes on the "right" that think "gay marriage" is swell, you have dudes who are "gay married" too, like Milo, with which Vox happily associates with. Hard to take Vox seriously because of this.

I mean... hate the sin not the sinner is very standard Christian ideology

It's not about hating/not hating, it's about endorsing his persona and the kind of degeneracy that completely defines him, a world in which a grown man molesting a 12 year old boy is just fine.

"Conservatives" are basically people who espouse leftists hand me down social policies from the last decade or two.

To those who say "hate the sin not the sinner" I always ask: who does God send to Hell? the sin or the sinner?

Yeah...

Post: #3024

(03-24-2019 01:54 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 01:50 PM)911 Wrote:  It's not about hating/not hating, it's about endorsing his persona and the kind of degeneracy that completely defines him, a world in which a grown man molesting a 12 year old boy is just fine.

Might be time to take a break from the internet.

Would you like to take time off your hall monitor rounds, and tell me what part of this Milo statement would you consider acceptable in your moral framework:

Quote:"You know, people are messy and complex and in the homosexual world particularly some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable rock where they can't speak to their parents," Milo said.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/19/...-and-boys/

Post: #3025

(03-24-2019 03:45 PM)911 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 01:54 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 01:50 PM)911 Wrote:  It's not about hating/not hating, it's about endorsing his persona and the kind of degeneracy that completely defines him, a world in which a grown man molesting a 12 year old boy is just fine.

Might be time to take a break from the internet.

Would you like to take time off your hall monitor rounds, and tell me what part of this Milo statement would you consider acceptable in your moral framework:

Quote:"You know, people are messy and complex and in the homosexual world particularly some of those relationships between younger boys and older men, the sort of coming of age relationships, the relationships in which those older men help those young boys discover who they are and give them security and safety and provide them with love and a reliable rock where they can't speak to their parents," Milo said.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/19/...-and-boys/

Oops, my mistake. I was skimming and thought you were still talking about Peterson.

Still, the break from the internet thing is never bad advice.

Might need one myself.