Why does Germany get overlooked?

I think Czech guys can clear with polish girls.You see this mix quite often in northern Morava.Also polish guys mix with czech girls sometimes as I saw in resorts.Only slovak girls are peculiar.They told me czech guys are unfaithful and womanizers that is why they prefer slovak boys who they regard as more romantic.

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(09-05-2012 07:29 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  [snip] Only slovak girls are peculiar.They told me czech guys are unfaithful and womanizers that is why they prefer slovak boys who they regard as more romantic.

Hmm. My personal experience was different, in a good way, and I've seen many CZ-SK mixes in both countries. Particularly CZ men have a great deal of affection for SK women whom we view as markedly more feminine and sexy than our own women (a mild generalization inevitable here).

That said you may still be on to something as I've seen Slovak girls going back to Slovak boys when the time came for an LTR / marriage.

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Yes,for LTR they prefer Slovaks.I seldom saw the opposite combination Slovak guy with czech girl but for sure it must exists.Slovak girls claim that czech girls sleep around while slovak ones are more monogamist.

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(09-05-2012 07:40 AM)Teekay Wrote:  

(09-05-2012 07:29 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  [snip] Only slovak girls are peculiar.They told me czech guys are unfaithful and womanizers that is why they prefer slovak boys who they regard as more romantic.

Hmm. My personal experience was different, in a good way, and I've seen many CZ-SK mixes in both countries. Particularly CZ men have a great deal of affection for SK women whom we view as markedly more feminine and sexy than our own women (a mild generalization inevitable here).

That said you may still be on to something as I've seen Slovak girls going back to Slovak boys when the time came for an LTR / marriage.

Thats exactly what my slovak ex-gf told me. She said all the czech guys want a slovak girl and they are considered hotter than the czechs. I thought she was just playing up her country. But then she showed me pictures of her friends and man they were all hot

She had a really big zadok too.

Ma'am rad slovenske holky!

And about Czech guys being unfaithful womanizers, i heard that from Czech girls too.

Whats funny i met alot of EE guys who were saying that Czech girls are ugly. I kept telling them you should go to Germany if you want to see ugly! I was walking around with a perma-boner in Prague.

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(09-05-2012 03:13 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  Not true at all. It depends on the type of girl in question. Some are into Americans (this is mainly true for the hiphop crowd), some are into Turks (also the hiphop crowd), some are into Italians and Spaniards, others are into Black guys.

it is true what are u talking about? this has been the experience of my friends who say the same thing. and from what i've seen, they love black guys.

to the OP, why are u even interested in german girls?? theyre the ugliest women in europe.. everyone agrees on that.

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Also Czech guys are among the best looking Slavs.The reason is likely the Celtic mix.About a decade ago they dressed horribly more like Germans with comfortable but sloppy clothes.(Czech girls the same).Now they take care of themselves,use deodorants,havedecent haircuts(not the military haircut spread throughout Eastern europe) and make quite a good impression.The only complaint I heard from Czech girls is that Czech guys do not want them so much.They could not understand why.Also that they do not show temper,affection etc and despite their efforts they cannot turn Czech guys horny and interested towards them.

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Its pretty stupid to argue about how has the ugliest girls in Europe. Most of you guys, couldnt even tell apart a dutch, german, austrian or swiss girl anyway.

If anything, German girls are pretty average. Lots of ugly and doable ones. Some pretty and, even fewer, very pretty ones. Just like in the US, England or Canada.

To sum it up, Germany has a lot to offer (history, culture, etc.), but coming here for the girls is pretty pointless.

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In terms of looks Dutch>Austrian>Swiss>German.But true most non Germanics cannot tell the difference you need trained eye to recognize the unique Mitteleuropa(Austria,Switzerland) style.

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(09-05-2012 03:45 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  6.Balkans(considered thugs,criminals,low lives.Germans do not forget that Serbs exterminated 200000 Germans in Yugoslavia in the last days of WW2 as a revenge and so the German minority in Yugoslavia got wiped out completely.This was far worse than what the Czechs and the Poles did to them).
7.Turks(the lowest of the low.They are not even allowed to integrate.Considered totally unfit for European customs.Germans basically want to throw all of them out and replace with Slavs and Mediteraneans if possible).Turks do not respect the German law because they regard themselves as superior to Westerners and Germans punish them hard(only 5% of turkish population or less attends university and the second generation mostly do not speak German although they were born in Germany).

More or less the above is the same ladder German women use when dealing with foreigners.

Im curious what massacre or extermination is was when yugoslavia killled so many germans

I'm just interested in history.
http://www.ihr.org/other/sunic062002.html
Found this article..but not much else

I'd like to know where your sources are period.
Such as the low rate of turkish people in german university

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I know a couple of German lads myself, they mostly do not complain about German girls, until ... they head up east.

German girls: masculine, totally asexual, not as friendly and talkative as the EE girls so why bother?

Kamaki has pointed out that German girls are not that interested in EE guys, but guess what, we don't give a shit, I can find more stunning and feminine women in Prague/Warsaw/Minsk/Kiev/Moscow than in the whole Germany.

About that Germany vs Poland thing, frankly, I think that a Pole has more chances of getting laid in Germany than German guy in Poland. Polish society is way more conservative and nationalist than German one, Germans are more liberal, they do not pay that much attention to the history as Poles do, here Hitler and Nazis or Prussian occupation will never be forgotten or forgiven.

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(09-05-2012 07:40 AM)Teekay Wrote:  

(09-05-2012 07:29 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  [snip] Only slovak girls are peculiar.They told me czech guys are unfaithful and womanizers that is why they prefer slovak boys who they regard as more romantic.

Hmm. My personal experience was different, in a good way, and I've seen many CZ-SK mixes in both countries. Particularly CZ men have a great deal of affection for SK women whom we view as markedly more feminine and sexy than our own women (a mild generalization inevitable here).

That said you may still be on to something as I've seen Slovak girls going back to Slovak boys when the time came for an LTR / marriage.

As a Slovakian, I can confirm the sentiment that Slovak girls are generally considered better looking and feminine and less slutty. This is a broad generalization of course. Although I met a lot of really slutty Czech girls in USA, mainly the ones who were here temporarily (au-pair, work and travel). Slovak girls seem more traditional and family oriented than the Czech ones on average.

As for guys, I never heard about Slovak guys being more monogamous, but it might be true due to Slovakia being more religious and conservative than the Czech lands. I know a lot of CZ-SK couples, both Czech girl with a Slovak guy and Slovak girl with a Czech guy. I have a lot of Slovak friends who went to university in Prague or moved there for a career and usually end up coupled with somebody from the Czech majority.

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Also Slovak girls are quite flaky I had girls leaving me in cold after restaurant date.Czech girls have been the most reliable I have ever seen they always keep their promises as long as you keep yours.

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(09-05-2012 01:22 PM)polish rumble Wrote:  I know a couple of German lads myself, they mostly do not complain about German girls, until ... they head up east.

German girls: masculine, totally asexual, not as friendly and talkative as the EE girls so why bother?

As to the question of the OP...this pretty much somes up my thoughts.

I can't understand why anyone would come here for the women. On average, they're not horrible, but by and large, they're definitely nothing to write home about. The only guys I hear raving about German girls come some village in Anatolia and have never seen anything else.

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(09-05-2012 11:04 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(09-05-2012 03:45 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  6.Balkans(considered thugs,criminals,low lives.Germans do not forget that Serbs exterminated 200000 Germans in Yugoslavia in the last days of WW2 as a revenge and so the German minority in Yugoslavia got wiped out completely.This was far worse than what the Czechs and the Poles did to them).
7.Turks(the lowest of the low.They are not even allowed to integrate.Considered totally unfit for European customs.Germans basically want to throw all of them out and replace with Slavs and Mediteraneans if possible).Turks do not respect the German law because they regard themselves as superior to Westerners and Germans punish them hard(only 5% of turkish population or less attends university and the second generation mostly do not speak German although they were born in Germany).

More or less the above is the same ladder German women use when dealing with foreigners.

Im curious what massacre or extermination is was when yugoslavia killled so many germans

I'm just interested in history.
http://www.ihr.org/other/sunic062002.html
Found this article..but not much else

I'd like to know where your sources are period.
Such as the low rate of turkish people in german university

There is plenty of information about that.Here you see some.

http://www.read-all-about-it.org/genocid...tents.html

Unfortunately for Serbs some descendants of these Donauschwaben who go massacred happened to serve in high ranking positions in Germany during the '90s and Yugoslavia crisis.Of course their opinions about what should be done with Serbs were quite fixed.

Poles and Czechs did not operate death camps for Germans like Serbs did.Czechs only imitated the German death routes which they forced the Jews to in the last days of the WW2.(keep moving them in harsh teritorry till they die).
The Serbs operated with knives and buried all evidence.Generally they never leave traces.It was a terror for Germans unheard of before and has left deep impressions.

The Poles just robbed them and ''helped them'' to leave earlier during the expulsions of 9 million Germans from current polish teritorry after WW2.However they did not kill them.Now Germans claim some polish land as belonging to them but Poles refuse any claims under the reparatory terms for German damages to Poland during WW2.(demolition of Warsaw).
The expulsion of Germans was also carried out mostly by Soviet troops and not by polish authorities.

During the expulsion of 4 million Sudeten Germans from Czechoslovakia organized by Benes lots of them died.The Czechs refuse till now to condemn the expulsions despite severe German pressures.The Czech public considers the Benes decrees and expulsion of German population as a positive measure of the communist government.

http://expelledgermans.org/sudetengermans.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene%C5%A1_decrees

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I will echo the sentiments of other players here: do not go to Germany if you're looking for some tail.

I'm an American who has lived on-and-off in Germany over the last 10 years (I'm here right now actually) and can speak perfect Deutsch. Although I was a beta last time I lived here, nonetheless I couldn't meet a girl for the life of me. I eventually hooked up with a couple of Russian women and had an LTR with an American girl back in New York. I have had other relationship with German girls, but back when I lived in New York.

Some thoughts:

- German women are not feminine. I wouldn't consider them feminists per se like the Swedes because most of them like to become full-time moms and don't insist on being on the board of a company. But once they hit late 20s/30s, they hit a brick wall.

- What I mean is that they begin dressing like men and don't try to differentiate themselves from men. A typical German girl in her late 20s will wear a cheap pair of jeans, Ked-style sneakers, and a t-shirt. They begin dying their hair this weird rust color. But the MOST important thing is that she wears a scarf. You will typically see a German girl with a scarf on during all months of the year, and I've seen them wear two if not three scarves at one time. Suit jackets are also common.

- So, you have a girl who doesn't really wear much make-up, wearing a pair of jeans that don't really hug her right, and a scarf that hides her neck. But what really irks me is that German girls rarely work out but think they can eat like they did in their teens. While they can get away with this while they relax at the Uni until they're 26-28, once they get in the work world, they start packing on the pounds. The pounds, unfortunately, don't distribute themselves towards her boobs. No, her ass is the thing that expands, and boy does it get big.

- I call this huge ass on a German girl "deutscher Panzerarsch", i.e., German tank-ass. It is a universal phenomenon here in Germany. I don't know what food causes it, but it must be the combination of a ton of yogurt, bread, chocolate, ice cream, and caffe lattes.

- Fair enough, the player says, I'll just concentrate on the girls in the Uni, i.e., below the age of 26. Unfortunately you'll encounter the other problem with German women, which is their wooden personality. Everything has to be so serious. Sarcasm and joking are not welcome, at least not at the onset of the courting. All strange men are to be mistrusted. Flirting is an unrecognizable art here.

- While I'm exaggerating a tiny bit, it really is the truth. German women are extremely loyal to their boyfriends, don't flirt or go out and whore themselves up. They'll become your girlfriend, move in with you, but won't give you any pressure to marry or have kids until much later in life. They believe all bills should be paid for equally. They make excellent mothers. But to get your foot in the door is a Herculean effort best accomplished by having a social circle and acting like a complete beta at the beginning.

- When I was last here in 06-07, I befriended an American who got some regular tail. When I went out with him to Live, a club in Frankfurt, he would approach a German girl and only talk English with her. Germans love talking English, so this is a plus since they otherwise hate being approached. But she'd quickly lose interest, so he would drop the lie that he was a banker at Deutsche Bank. Most German women aren't materialistic so he’d get blown out then, but a few would be hooked. I think most of those girls were the Germans that have migrated back from Russia. I will add a caveat that my boy was black, and a certain subset of the female population here is into black guys (just like the guys are in to Asian chicks and have built a seedy reputation in SE Asia).

- If you still insist on coming here for chicks (and not the sites, which are great), then I would suggest Cologne. The people of the Rheinland are considered the most relaxed and fun-loving of the Germans, and the women are well-known to party it up and have a great time. If you want to meet willing chicks, forget Oktoberfest in Munich, which is overrun with tourists, especially annoying Italians looking to basically rape passed-out girls. The time to come here is during Fasching (Carnival) in February, when the city of Cologne blows up with huge parties. Tons of fun, you dress up, people are really friendly, and a hook-up is almost a given.

- Otherwise I would suggest meeting German girls outside their home turf, where they're more relaxed and willing to have fun. For whatever reasons Germans feel like they have to act completely verklemmt when they're in Deutschland, but outside of there they feel like they can act like complete assholes. Probably because their shitty behavior won't be reported back to the German social police or something. Places where Germans go a ton are: 1) Mallorca/Spanish coast; 2) Austrian alps during ski season; 3) Egypt; 4) Greek islands; 5) Cypress.

- If Roosh came here I would imagine that he would have to use his Danish game, but you'd have to agree with German girls less. They want to discuss all the problems of the world, including with America. They don't believe, like Danes, that they're right, they just want to discuss any topic ad naseum. I have no idea how you transition to kino with these girls and then to fucking. Insight would be welcome.

- The best second- and third-tier cities to visit and find chicks are those that have large universities. Mainz is a perfect example of this. West Germans know Americans very well and still love the culture for the most part, so an American would probably do better here than in East Germany. Frankly, I've never tried to get chicks in East Germany, but the cities to visit would be (excl. Berlin): Leipzig, Dresden, and Erfurt (Uni town). Leipzig is supposedly the most booming of the former GDR cities.

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East German women behave better and more feminine.German women let you touch them while talking to them but overall masculinity(deep voices,strong jaw,miniscule boobs) are a turn off.They are slim only in 10% and in this case their legs are so thin like pelican's.All the rest have more kilos than ideal and big periphery.However they do not become fatter after marriage they remain the same and this differentiates them from Greek women.(only by weight you can conclude who are married and who are not).

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Oh man, reading this thread is hilarious. I cant believe that none of you guys had any serious success with German girls. While they are not the sexiest women in the world (they are looks-wise on par with American girls), they are really not that hard to fuck. Also, competition is weak.
An Aussie buddy of mine, who currently lives in Berlin, speaks no Deutsch whatsoever, has a big Turkish face and has absolutely no problem getting laid here.

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(09-06-2012 09:02 AM)BoiBoi Wrote:  Oh man, reading this thread is hilarious. I cant believe that none of you guys had any serious success with German girls. While they are not the sexiest women in the world (they are looks-wise on par with American girls), they are really not that hard to fuck. Also, competition is weak.
An Aussie buddy of mine, who currently lives in Berlin, speaks no Deutsch whatsoever, has a big Turkish face and has absolutely no problem getting laid here.

Then fill us in buddy how it works instead of just talking shit.

When I lived here I was a beta so I never really tried to crack the code. I just became extremely frustrated that it was so hard to get laid, at least compared back in America.

Competition may be weak but almost all of them are in relationships. The dating scene here is almost non-existent. Forgot about the bar scene, logistically it's a nightmare given that nobody stands while drinking, everybody goes out to meet up with somebody, where they drink their drink at a table (makes approaching a huge hassle).

And I would agree with the Greek: the East Germans I have met are definitely sexier than the West German women. It would drive my West German female colleagues absolutely insane about the East Germans at my employer, how they look so slutty and are so stupid. Major jealousy going on. Also, German women fatten up regardless if they're married or not; this transition happens in their late 20s.

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(09-06-2012 11:17 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

(09-06-2012 09:02 AM)BoiBoi Wrote:  Oh man, reading this thread is hilarious. I cant believe that none of you guys had any serious success with German girls. While they are not the sexiest women in the world (they are looks-wise on par with American girls), they are really not that hard to fuck. Also, competition is weak.
An Aussie buddy of mine, who currently lives in Berlin, speaks no Deutsch whatsoever, has a big Turkish face and has absolutely no problem getting laid here.

Then fill us in buddy how it works instead of just talking shit.

When I lived here I was a beta so I never really tried to crack the code. I just became extremely frustrated that it was so hard to get laid, at least compared back in America.

Competition may be weak but almost all of them are in relationships. The dating scene here is almost non-existent. Forgot about the bar scene, logistically it's a nightmare given that nobody stands while drinking, everybody goes out to meet up with somebody, where they drink their drink at a table (makes approaching a huge hassle).

Well, it all depends on where you are, since location is king. Im living in Berlin, which has the highest number of single households in Germany and attracts a lot of talent, both national and international. That means, a lot of girls come to the city without having a socail circle, which then translates to easy bangs. Just imagine young girls coming from small shitty villages on the loose in the big city...

Anyways, my standard game here is pretty much being the funny, cheeky guy. Believe me, it works. Just do the Roosh, post up at the bar/next to the dance floor/etc. check for a girl you like and open her with some situational shit. German girls are not used to being approached often, so they usually wont blow you out instantly.

E.g. Last girl I opend had something that looked like a penis tattooed on her neck. I approached her asking if she had a penis tattooed on her neck and about 40 min later she had my dick in her hand in an allyway next to the venue.

Just make sure that you are funny, because girls here love humor. When you ask almost any German girl, whats the number one trait they are looking for in a man, the vast majority will say its the sense of humor. You can get away with the stupidest shit, as long as it seems funny.

Another example:
I was having lunch by myself at my uni's cafeteria. Sun was blazing, I was sitting in the shade eating my meal. I see 2 girls looking for some shadow so they come over, sit down and start eating. The one next to me was a real stunner, easily the most beautiful girl I had seen in days. She was eating Currywurst (sausage) with fries and I opened her by saying something along the lines of "such a beautiful girl eating such a nasty meal, perfect example of a cognitive dissonance".
I banged her a week later.

Bottom line, start approaching, be funny, maybe a little cheeky and there you go. I read Bang and the majority of Roosh's stuff also works here. Just dont overdo the cocky part.

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Yes,but German humor is sadistic.It is not the black Czech humor.

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(09-06-2012 09:02 AM)BoiBoi Wrote:  Oh man, reading this thread is hilarious. I cant believe that none of you guys had any serious success with German girls. While they are not the sexiest women in the world (they are looks-wise on par with American girls), they are really not that hard to fuck.
An Aussie buddy of mine, who currently lives in Berlin, speaks no Deutsch whatsoever, has a big Turkish face and has absolutely no problem getting laid here.

again, german girls, based on my experience and observation, are attracted to dark skinned guys, just like ur friend who's turkish.. german girls are very tough to attract. and i think this is the reason. if youre dark skinned like black or italian, then you stand a big chance in fucking a german chick.

also, another thing about them is that they change their minds.. one minute theu like you, then the next minute they change their minds about seeing you again.. and plus theyre manly looking... stay away from those creatures, please.

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(09-06-2012 09:02 AM)BoiBoi Wrote:  Oh man, reading this thread is hilarious. I cant believe that none of you guys had any serious success with German girls. While they are not the sexiest women in the world (they are looks-wise on par with American girls), they are really not that hard to fuck. Also, competition is weak.
An Aussie buddy of mine, who currently lives in Berlin, speaks no Deutsch whatsoever, has a big Turkish face and has absolutely no problem getting laid here.

It should be noted that cities like Berlin and Hamburg is not representative of the entire country. Berlin is known for having a very different vibe, culture, and mentality than other parts, do to the more cosmopolitan nature of the place. It's similar to comparing NYC with the deep south of the US.

I'm speaking more from Southern Germany. At least where I live, hooking up is much more about social circle and indirectness than anything else in most cases.

Quote: german girls, based on my experience and observation, are attracted to dark skinned guys, just like ur friend who's turkish..

if youre dark skinned like black or italian, then you stand a big chance in fucking a german chick.

Not necessarilly. It's more that there are certain types of girls over here that go for tanned and dark skinned guys, so they have a market to exploit in Germany. Like I said, Black guys (especially the stereotypical Black Americans) do well with girls who are heavily into the whole American hiphop scene. Turks and Middle Easterners also do well with German hiphop fans, mainly because of the macho-stereotype associated with them (similar to Hispanic stereotypes in the US).

Latin, Italian, and Spanish guys will likely do well because they've not only got the hiphop crowd (who may mistake them for Turks at first), but also the type of girls who have a soft spot for Latin culture. It's kind of like the exotic factor that alot of white guys have when they go to Asia.

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German women do not fall for Turks.German women want sophistication.Between a muscular Balkan power individual from the village with primitive manners and a slick Italian with elegance German women are going to prefer the latter.English women are going to prefer the former (they want sexual performance).

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Berlin is completely atypcial for Germany. There is ppl from all over going there to party and let loose, also a huge drug culture, crazy nightlife (one of the best in Europe!). Its IMO the best spot for game in Germany.
The girls are still not that attractive tho, lots of artsy hipster bullshit and personally I hate that style. The hottest chicks you will find there, are again, foreigners.

Alot of black guys I see around here are banging landwhales. I can't count how many times i see a mammoth pushing trolleys with a mixed baby in it or mixed couples with really fat white chicks.

Turkish guys considered low class. Lots of ghetto hip hop chicks dig them though.
I would bet my money the average Turk/Arab does better than the average German, simply because they are really agressive and hit on many chicks (its called "Südländergame" you just hit on anything that moves). Germans on average have zero game and dont approach. They rely mostly on looks and social circle. So the law of averages is simply in the Turks/Arabs favour.
They also have their own chicks and Arab women can be smoking hot!

I also know German guys who get laid a ton, they have sick game and have their niche carved out. Thats the exception tho, the average German is completely passive and clings to any pussy he can get as if his life depended on it.

Myself i have been struggling for years, some lays here and there but no consistency. I also find most German chicks very unattractive. I have done much better abroad simply due to the fact that i was attracted to more girls and could do more approaches easily. In Germany weeks can go by without me seeing a hot chick I want to bone.

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