Post: #151

(03-10-2017 12:04 AM)Fisto Wrote:  waitaminute.....

If all these massive tech companies were complicit in spying and breaking laws and etc etc....

Aren't we all looking at a huge payday with a class action lawsuit?

Only the lawyers would make any money and most likely the feds would give retroactive immunity like they did the telecoms who helped them spy.

Post: #152

(03-08-2017 03:23 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  https://techystuffed.wordpress.com/2016/...be-hacked/

Quote:TOP 3 SMARTPHONES HARD TO BE HACKED

It is difficult to stand out from the crowd and invest in a smartphone that is solely dedicated towards privacy and security. In this day and age, several factors determine the choice of a smartphone. The form factor, the features, camera, design, battery backup, and even the operating system plays a crucial role in ensuring the success of a smartphone in the market. However, the problem with all modern smartphones is that they have a huge amount of privacy loop-holes and security risks that make them inherently dangerous to your private and sensitive data.

Even the most accomplished operating systems such as iOS and Android have a great deal of security risks that make them vulnerable to hackers. If security is your primary concern, you should invest in a smartphone that is not privacy oriented, but hard to be hacked. There are a lot of options in the smartphone market that promises high levels of security and privacy, but there are only a handful of models that truly deliver on their promise of ensuring the safety of your data and conversations. We took a close look at the most security oriented smartphones to come up with the top 3 smartphones hard to be hacked.

BLACKPHONE 2 FROM SILENT CIRCLE


Blackphone 2 is a security oriented smartphone that was designed and developed by Silent Circle. Blackphone 2 runs on an advanced version of the Android OS, and has been modified by the developers to offer greater levels of security and convenience without making any compromises on the anticipated features list. The Blackphone 2 features a 1.7 GHz octa-core processor and 3 GB of RAM, which provides it the essential speed and performance as expected from a smartphone. Measuring a healthy 5.5 inches, the Blackphone also comes with 32 GB internal storage along with additional storage options through a memory card. Blackphone 2 is high on the list for buyers looking for a secure and private smartphone without the associated drawbacks.

PRIV FROM BLACKBERRY


BlackBerry has been a company that was built on the foundation of security and privacy for professional mobile users. The company still concentrates their efforts on a smart and secure mobile device, and their latest Android offering, the PRIV, promises to offer the best in security and privacy. The PRIV runs on a 600 MHz GPU with a 64 bit Hexa-core processor and 3GB RAM. The phone also features a 32 GB internal storage with expandable memory options.

LUMIA 950 FROM MICROSOFT


Windows phone is considered to be the most secure mobile OS platform by most security experts and mobile hackers. Potential hackers turn away from Windows phones due to multiple levels of security and the easy availability of other smartphone users from the iOS and Android OS categories. The Lumia 950 series is an amazing smartphone from Microsoft that offers a great deal of features at an attractive price point to give some of the accomplished smartphones in the market a run for their money.

Please forgive my technical ignorance here, but wouldnt this phones tsill be easy to access considering they have the OS's that have been proven to be easily accesible?
The Blackberry and the blackphone use a variation of android (however altered),the microsoft one is well,microsoft...

Post: #153

(03-10-2017 03:20 AM)El_Gostro Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:23 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  https://techystuffed.wordpress.com/2016/...be-hacked/

Quote:TOP 3 SMARTPHONES HARD TO BE HACKED

It is difficult to stand out from the crowd and invest in a smartphone that is solely dedicated towards privacy and security. In this day and age, several factors determine the choice of a smartphone. The form factor, the features, camera, design, battery backup, and even the operating system plays a crucial role in ensuring the success of a smartphone in the market. However, the problem with all modern smartphones is that they have a huge amount of privacy loop-holes and security risks that make them inherently dangerous to your private and sensitive data.

Even the most accomplished operating systems such as iOS and Android have a great deal of security risks that make them vulnerable to hackers. If security is your primary concern, you should invest in a smartphone that is not privacy oriented, but hard to be hacked. There are a lot of options in the smartphone market that promises high levels of security and privacy, but there are only a handful of models that truly deliver on their promise of ensuring the safety of your data and conversations. We took a close look at the most security oriented smartphones to come up with the top 3 smartphones hard to be hacked.

BLACKPHONE 2 FROM SILENT CIRCLE


Blackphone 2 is a security oriented smartphone that was designed and developed by Silent Circle. Blackphone 2 runs on an advanced version of the Android OS, and has been modified by the developers to offer greater levels of security and convenience without making any compromises on the anticipated features list. The Blackphone 2 features a 1.7 GHz octa-core processor and 3 GB of RAM, which provides it the essential speed and performance as expected from a smartphone. Measuring a healthy 5.5 inches, the Blackphone also comes with 32 GB internal storage along with additional storage options through a memory card. Blackphone 2 is high on the list for buyers looking for a secure and private smartphone without the associated drawbacks.

PRIV FROM BLACKBERRY


BlackBerry has been a company that was built on the foundation of security and privacy for professional mobile users. The company still concentrates their efforts on a smart and secure mobile device, and their latest Android offering, the PRIV, promises to offer the best in security and privacy. The PRIV runs on a 600 MHz GPU with a 64 bit Hexa-core processor and 3GB RAM. The phone also features a 32 GB internal storage with expandable memory options.

LUMIA 950 FROM MICROSOFT


Windows phone is considered to be the most secure mobile OS platform by most security experts and mobile hackers. Potential hackers turn away from Windows phones due to multiple levels of security and the easy availability of other smartphone users from the iOS and Android OS categories. The Lumia 950 series is an amazing smartphone from Microsoft that offers a great deal of features at an attractive price point to give some of the accomplished smartphones in the market a run for their money.

Please forgive my technical ignorance here, but wouldnt this phones tsill be easy to access considering they have the OS's that have been proven to be easily accesible?
The Blackberry and the blackphone use a variation of android (however altered),the microsoft one is well,microsoft...

For these phones to be truly secure, you would have to avoid Google's ecosystem of Play Store and Gmail.

The Blackberry is secure if it's connected to a BB enterprise server. I still don't trust electronics.

Post: #154

Or could we simply assume that even these phones are compromised on purpose but advertised as secure? Seems to me that only secure phone you could buy is probably just from dark net.

Post: #155

Guys Blackberry/RIM is Canadian owned and has a pipe to Canadian intelligence and US intelligence (UK too). All BBM messages flow through them from an architecture standpoint.

Blackberry is just super secure against other companies (corporate espionage), and countries not in the 5 eyes. This is why France ditched their government Blackberries a long time ago in protest for not getting access and for the US always knowing what their terrorism and business agenda were before they could discuss.

There is a reason the UK knew what the kids rioting were doing, because they were reading their BBMs to find out where they were going to meet up for riots.

Post: #156

No phone is secure because they all have a closed source baseband processor which has full access to RAM of the application processor (i.e. your phone company or friendly local intelligence agency will have an exploit to take whatever data from your phone they want, even if you use full disk encryption).

I'm with The Beast1 on this one, all this stuff was already exposed by Snowden. They're only just confirming what systems they do normally hack, but after seeing the original NSA dumps it's clear they had access to the resources to hack these systems also.

Post: #157

Well, I always wanted to breed messenger birds and/or animals.
I got the perfect excuse for a new biz now!

Post: #158

(03-10-2017 05:50 AM)Valentine Wrote:  No phone is secure because they all have a closed source baseband processor which has full access to RAM of the application processor (i.e. your phone company or friendly local intelligence agency will have an exploit to take whatever data from your phone they want, even if you use full disk encryption).

I'm with The Beast1 on this one, all this stuff was already exposed by Snowden. They're only just confirming what systems they do normally hack, but after seeing the original NSA dumps it's clear they had access to the resources to hack these systems also.

Its true. I'm sure most have zero days and hidden backdoors that open with methods like port knocking. You can never be 100% sure.

Those thinking of getting a Chinese brand phone from eBay. Many Chinese origin Android devices allegedly come with malware preinstalled.


Reverting to the old school is still a gamble as the 2G/GSM phones - where still able to be used - can be decrypted in seconds. And don't forget about IMSI Catchers [NY] [Washington]



No smartphone is secure. Some are just more 'secure' than others.

Post: #159

^Every system has a flaw. I think i saw that in a movie once....

Dont ever presume your hardware is unhackable even in some rare cases if the hardware is off power (or you think its off power)

What I wish the Wikileaks would release is the amount of provable collusion between the government and the tech companies. I find it hard to believe with the amount of beta testing these guys do they could miss simple fixes that were exploited by the Government.

Post: #160

(03-10-2017 03:20 AM)El_Gostro Wrote:  

(03-08-2017 03:23 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  https://techystuffed.wordpress.com/2016/...be-hacked/

Quote:TOP 3 SMARTPHONES HARD TO BE HACKED

It is difficult to stand out from the crowd and invest in a smartphone that is solely dedicated towards privacy and security. In this day and age, several factors determine the choice of a smartphone. The form factor, the features, camera, design, battery backup, and even the operating system plays a crucial role in ensuring the success of a smartphone in the market. However, the problem with all modern smartphones is that they have a huge amount of privacy loop-holes and security risks that make them inherently dangerous to your private and sensitive data.

Even the most accomplished operating systems such as iOS and Android have a great deal of security risks that make them vulnerable to hackers. If security is your primary concern, you should invest in a smartphone that is not privacy oriented, but hard to be hacked. There are a lot of options in the smartphone market that promises high levels of security and privacy, but there are only a handful of models that truly deliver on their promise of ensuring the safety of your data and conversations. We took a close look at the most security oriented smartphones to come up with the top 3 smartphones hard to be hacked.

BLACKPHONE 2 FROM SILENT CIRCLE


Blackphone 2 is a security oriented smartphone that was designed and developed by Silent Circle. Blackphone 2 runs on an advanced version of the Android OS, and has been modified by the developers to offer greater levels of security and convenience without making any compromises on the anticipated features list. The Blackphone 2 features a 1.7 GHz octa-core processor and 3 GB of RAM, which provides it the essential speed and performance as expected from a smartphone. Measuring a healthy 5.5 inches, the Blackphone also comes with 32 GB internal storage along with additional storage options through a memory card. Blackphone 2 is high on the list for buyers looking for a secure and private smartphone without the associated drawbacks.

PRIV FROM BLACKBERRY


BlackBerry has been a company that was built on the foundation of security and privacy for professional mobile users. The company still concentrates their efforts on a smart and secure mobile device, and their latest Android offering, the PRIV, promises to offer the best in security and privacy. The PRIV runs on a 600 MHz GPU with a 64 bit Hexa-core processor and 3GB RAM. The phone also features a 32 GB internal storage with expandable memory options.

LUMIA 950 FROM MICROSOFT


Windows phone is considered to be the most secure mobile OS platform by most security experts and mobile hackers. Potential hackers turn away from Windows phones due to multiple levels of security and the easy availability of other smartphone users from the iOS and Android OS categories. The Lumia 950 series is an amazing smartphone from Microsoft that offers a great deal of features at an attractive price point to give some of the accomplished smartphones in the market a run for their money.

Please forgive my technical ignorance here, but wouldnt this phones tsill be easy to access considering they have the OS's that have been proven to be easily accesible?
The Blackberry and the blackphone use a variation of android (however altered),the microsoft one is well,microsoft...

Anything that doesn't have a removable battery is essentially a set up a this time. "Now you're safe, say all your secrets!". If they're not doing that one, basic, simple thing, they're probably just red flagging you as someone with something to hide.

Post: #161

(03-10-2017 03:53 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Or could we simply assume that even these phones are compromised on purpose but advertised as secure? Seems to me that only secure phone you could buy is probably just from dark net.

Isn't it odd that every "trendy" new phone that comes out has a non-removable battery? The one, simple, basic, low tech method that can (even temporarily) protect you from this stuff?

Post: #162

Like someone said earlier, the greatest scam Google & Facebook pulled on us was redefining the concept of privacy to "keeping information hidden from your friends & neighbors" as opposed to its original meaning of "keeping information hidden from your corporations and government".

Post: #163

Wasn't it Snowden who revealed that every single phone call, email, and internet transmission in the entire world gets vacuumed-up by the NSA and stored in that giant database near Salt Lake City?

So, the NSA and the CIA apparently have the same tools, just use them differently. The difference seems to be that the NSA vacuums everything up, then uses database search tools to find the information they need to build a file on a particular issue or problem. The CIA uses the tools more selectively to target specific people, organizations, or agencies.

Post: #164

I didn't even know the new phones can't have their batteries removed!

I just can't finnish comprehending that part of the cycle of art imitates life imitates art where we have nearly a hundred years warning of over reliance on technological "do-alls" (i.e "house of the future" cartoons, HAL, AM, Ubik's coin operated doors. Etc) and our fellow men proceed to embrace exactly the very things that alarmingly resemble when they're not directly inspired in these fictional warning stories.

Post: #165

Delete

Post: #166

I haven't looked at the inside of a phone made in 2016 or later, but the last time I checked, the batteries are usually glued in. They can be difficult and hazardous to remove, but it's not impossible. The hazard comes from trying to melt the glue around a lithium battery. If you can do that successfully, you can remove the battery.

Carriers that use Samsung phones usually have at least one model of smart phone that has an easily-removed battery still. Sprint offers the Galaxy Grand Prime, for example.

Post: #167

(03-10-2017 11:30 AM)Bear Hands Wrote:  I haven't looked at the inside of a phone made in 2016 or later, but the last time I checked, the batteries are usually glued in. They can be difficult and hazardous to remove, but it's not impossible. The hazard comes from trying to melt the glue around a lithium battery. If you can do that successfully, you can remove the battery.

Carriers that use Samsung phones usually have at least one model of smart phone that has an easily-removed battery still. Sprint offers the Galaxy Grand Prime, for example.

Non-removable batteries is something sold as being more efficient to design but ... it's always been suspicious. That's not the only thing though. Think about the big picture of personal tech. All of the movement in recent years has been away from powerful, versatile PCs with operating systems that allowed a knowledgeable user to customize/control a lot (both software and hardware) and toward specialized, more limited devices where users have a lot less control. There are explanations for those things other than simply taking control away from individuals, of course, so nothing to be concerned about there.

Post: #168

(03-10-2017 11:16 AM)El_Gostro Wrote:  I didn't even know the new phones can't have their batteries removed!

I just can't finnish comprehending that part of the cycle of art imitates life imitates art where we have nearly a hundred years warning of over reliance on technological "do-alls" (i.e "house of the future" cartoons, HAL, AM, Ubik's coin operated doors. Etc) and our fellow men proceed to embrace exactly the very things that alarmingly resemble when they're not directly inspired in these fictional warning stories.

It's a lot easier when 90% of media consumption is controlled by 6 companies. Who is going to warn you? Or will they just tell you how cool it is?

Post: #169

(03-10-2017 10:14 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 03:53 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Or could we simply assume that even these phones are compromised on purpose but advertised as secure? Seems to me that only secure phone you could buy is probably just from dark net.

Isn't it odd that every "trendy" new phone that comes out has a non-removable battery? The one, simple, basic, low tech method that can (even temporarily) protect you from this stuff?

(03-10-2017 12:33 PM)Edmund Ironside Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 11:30 AM)Bear Hands Wrote:  I haven't looked at the inside of a phone made in 2016 or later, but the last time I checked, the batteries are usually glued in. They can be difficult and hazardous to remove, but it's not impossible. The hazard comes from trying to melt the glue around a lithium battery. If you can do that successfully, you can remove the battery.

Carriers that use Samsung phones usually have at least one model of smart phone that has an easily-removed battery still. Sprint offers the Galaxy Grand Prime, for example.

Non-removable batteries is something sold as being more efficient to design but ... it's always been suspicious. That's not the only thing though. Think about the big picture of personal tech. All of the movement in recent years has been away from powerful, versatile PCs with operating systems that allowed a knowledgeable user to customize/control a lot (both software and hardware) and toward specialized, more limited devices where users have a lot less control. There are explanations for those things other than simply taking control away from individuals, of course, so nothing to be concerned about there.

And the side benefit that you can't buy a cheaper, generic brand battery when yours wears out or service the phone yourself without voiding the warranty.

Post: #170

I have Chinese brand phone called Prestigio. It has removable battery and its pretty good phone for the price I paid for it.

Post: #171

If your phone doesn't have removable battery you can always place it in a metal enclosure (cookie tin, altoids tin, etc.) which will keep it from connecting to the network.

Post: #172

(03-10-2017 02:04 PM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:  If your phone doesn't have removable battery you can always place it in a metal enclosure (cookie tin, altoids tin, etc.) which will keep it from connecting to the network.

I smell a business opportunity for a very special kind of "Iphone case".

Post: #173

(03-10-2017 02:24 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 02:04 PM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:  If your phone doesn't have removable battery you can always place it in a metal enclosure (cookie tin, altoids tin, etc.) which will keep it from connecting to the network.

I smell a business opportunity for a very special kind of "Iphone case".

I don't know man, that sounds like a hate crime to me. Not allowing your Iphag free access to the network is against human rights and is totally un-American...

Post: #174

(03-10-2017 12:54 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 10:14 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 03:53 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Or could we simply assume that even these phones are compromised on purpose but advertised as secure? Seems to me that only secure phone you could buy is probably just from dark net.

Isn't it odd that every "trendy" new phone that comes out has a non-removable battery? The one, simple, basic, low tech method that can (even temporarily) protect you from this stuff?

(03-10-2017 12:33 PM)Edmund Ironside Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 11:30 AM)Bear Hands Wrote:  I haven't looked at the inside of a phone made in 2016 or later, but the last time I checked, the batteries are usually glued in. They can be difficult and hazardous to remove, but it's not impossible. The hazard comes from trying to melt the glue around a lithium battery. If you can do that successfully, you can remove the battery.

Carriers that use Samsung phones usually have at least one model of smart phone that has an easily-removed battery still. Sprint offers the Galaxy Grand Prime, for example.

Non-removable batteries is something sold as being more efficient to design but ... it's always been suspicious. That's not the only thing though. Think about the big picture of personal tech. All of the movement in recent years has been away from powerful, versatile PCs with operating systems that allowed a knowledgeable user to customize/control a lot (both software and hardware) and toward specialized, more limited devices where users have a lot less control. There are explanations for those things other than simply taking control away from individuals, of course, so nothing to be concerned about there.

And the side benefit that you can't buy a cheaper, generic brand battery when yours wears out or service the phone yourself without voiding the warranty.

I haven't had a cellphone in a long time, just a landline, which I thought was fine. I recently bought a Note 5, then exchanged it for the Note 4 the next day, specifically because I couldn't exchange the battery or put in a sd card. So now my note 4 has a 10k mAh battery and 64gb 95mb/s sd card. Nice to put in what I want. Unfortunately it's all I can change, but at least it's something versus nothing at all. Heck if I think I'll want it later, I'll install a wireless charging receiver, though I'll have to do some custom solder work to get the contacts around the huge battery. I've also been thinking about fabricating a slide out handheld keyboard for it, using a touchscreen is kind of hard.

Post: #175

(03-10-2017 02:35 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 02:24 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(03-10-2017 02:04 PM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:  If your phone doesn't have removable battery you can always place it in a metal enclosure (cookie tin, altoids tin, etc.) which will keep it from connecting to the network.

I smell a business opportunity for a very special kind of "Iphone case".

I don't know man, that sounds like a hate crime to me. Not allowing your Iphag free access to the network is against human rights and is totally un-American...

I see a huge spike in Faraday cage sales!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage