Post: #1

Men that are tall, handsome, and hot would probably ignore this thread since it isn't relevant for you guys.

But for guys that are decent, average, and ugly keep reading. If your planning to live abroad or travel its a good idea to take into consideration male competition over hot babes. There's a lot of guys that may spend thousands and thousands of dollars and end up failing in the end, but why? Because they fail to take the local guys into consideration, what the women are looking for and also overall culture as well. be We always here of conflicting views of certain places that are "goldmines" or "overrated" and most likely its because of this. First thing I would start of with would be:

1) Height

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_av..._worldwide

The first thing a woman takes into consideration of a man is his height. It's safe to say that certain men in certain countries, and races are taller then others. The tallest men usually come from western countries, and Europe. Some of the shortest men in the world come from Asia and Latin America.With that being said we all gotta "get in where we fit in". Another thing is height is usually related to sexuality in terms of penis size. It's not always true but taller guys do usually have bigger dicks then shorter guys. Its politically incorrect but fuck it, your gonna have to compete in terms of sexual performance as well. If you cant satisfy her in the bedroom then your not gonna have much success with the women. There are short guys in countries where men are taller then average and are successful in dating. But usually it's because of a "high exotic value", he's a attractive short guy or some other reason.

2) Looks

Are the men of the country you plan to travel to more attractive or less? In south east asia, east asia, some latin american countries (peru, central america, and etc). Then men are not as attractive as men from western countries. So men travelling to these countries have an advantage over the competition. But places in Scandinavia, Brazil, Argentina, Mediterranean, and etc. The local men have a reputation for being physically attractive so the competition will be a lot tougher, especially if you don't speak the language or have a lack of exotic value. Another thing to take into consideration is your skin tone. Fair skin is placed on a pedastol in most Asian and Latin American countries. So men that have fair skin will have a higher status then people of a darker skin complexure. Men that have a olive skin tone - dark skin tone should probably travel to Europe/Russia since its not frowned upon and a number of women prefer a darker skin tone over a lighter skin tone.

3) Body Type

Do you have a muscular physique, a slim physique, are you fat? The local body type of the men should can also be a indicator of your success as well. In a country where men are skinny, a man with a muscular physique can be pretty successful if the local women find it desirable. I know some east Asian women like Korean women don't really like muscular guys but like more skinny toned guys. That leads to another point is for example some Korean women like skinny toned guys, a exotic guy that has that body type can be pretty successful compared to visiting a country where that isn't so special or valued. But most women around the world don't like fat guys, but thats life.

4) Culture

The personality, mannerism, and behavior of the man should be in alignment with the culture he's travelling to obtain optimal success. If a loud, excessively smiling beta male decides to live in a Slavic country will not be successful in dating.If he decides to visit a east Asian country, he probability for success will increase since beta behavior is more acceptable.Men that are more macho would probably do good in Latin America, since Latina's love there strong dominant men.You gotta go where you can fit in, and be able to connect with the people. Also are the local men more masculine, charismatic and confident then you? Also how well do you speak the language if the people don't usually speak English.

Overall, all men should take into consideration many factors of the local male competition, and even the overall cultural compatibility before making a trip as a single man. The reason why its so important for some guys is because not everybody has the luxury of "trial and error", or the financial resources to be easily wasted on a overseas vacation. Instead of just googling images of the women of the foreign country, check out some of the guys to see if you go toe to toe with them. There are always exceptions to the rule, we all this guy or that guy that is an outlier. But thats the thing there exceptions and exceptions are rare. I hope this can help some of you guys out.


Peace,

Post: #2

Welcome to the forum's. Your post is mostly common sense observations. Obviously guys who are short (like myself) definitely need to temper their expectations in certain Scandinavian countries where even the typical female's are 5-8"+

Btw, one thing that people fail to realize is the height average that you provided for countries is based mostly on old census reports and takes into consideration all age groups....whereas if one is doing night game they will mostly be in bars/clubs where the average age will be under 30 and as we all know younger people tend to be taller; part of natural human evolution. In places like Netherlands or Balkans the estimate of 6 ft 1⁄2 in for males is on the conservative side.

Post: #3

(01-28-2017 02:51 PM)TripleG Wrote:  Btw, one thing that people fail to realize is the height average that you provided for countries is based mostly on old census reports and takes into consideration all age groups....whereas if one is doing night game they will mostly be in bars/clubs where the average age will be under 30 and as we all know younger people tend to be taller; part of natural human evolution. In places like Netherlands or Balkans the estimate of 6 ft 1⁄2 in for males is on the conservative side.

Don't forgot that the averages include immigrant populations which are significantly shorter. Also, selection bias. Tall guys are much more willing to go to a club than a short guy. As a result, clubs skew taller than normal life.

Post: #4

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets...ge-169.jpg

This is great for giving guys a general overview.

Post: #5

No.

Narrowing the scope of what women are attracted to only to looks exposes your inexperience.

You can be a short, fat, balding bloke with a face only a mother could love but also possess a funny, charming, confident character with your finances in order. A man's character and establishment more than offsets any perceived deficiencies in his physical appearance when it comes to attracting women.

Post: #6

(01-31-2017 06:03 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  No.

Narrowing the scope of what women are attracted to only to looks exposes your inexperience.

You can be a short, fat, balding bloke with a face only a mother could love but also possess a funny, charming, confident character with your finances in order. A man's character and establishment more than offsets any perceived deficiencies in his physical appearance when it comes to attracting women.

Agreed. I am a short 5.6' guy. Pulls taller women all the time. They don't really care as long as you're fine with your height. Yes, there are some women who only date taller men but they either use you for social-proof(an alpha boyfriend gets her respect among her circles.) and/or have self-esteem issues (I need a tall guy who's perfect so I can hide my insecurities)

I never understood the obsession with height and penis sizes. As long as you're of average height and average penis size then you're fine. If you really are a tall guy and/or a guy with a large enough penis then thank your parents.

It's similar to that of men's attraction to women with nice voluptuous tits and ass. Ideally we prefer a woman with tight, large breasts and strong ass but we don't really care if a woman tits are very tiny or if she doesn't have meat in her ass.

There are 'natural' players and players who rely on their wits. Guess who gets hotter pussy consistently? I personally have seen a physically ugly guy (born with a weird nose) pull women who look like this here in India. He's a pretty awesome guy. I always learn something from him whenever I have the chance to talk to him.

These are my personal opinions on this subject.

Post: #7

(01-31-2017 06:03 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  You can be a short, fat, balding bloke with a face only a mother could love but also possess a funny, charming, confident character with your finances in order.

In my home country that will get you a girlfriend rather easily, especially the finances part.
But for casual hookups and same night lays, forget it. They just don't lower their gaze low enough to see you.

Post: #8

Who defines what is attractive?

Maybe Igor in Russia is considered attractive or Pedro in Peru is considered attractive, in their respective countries.

Not another looks vs game thread! FMH

Post: #9

I never said that looks are absolutely everything. A man's self confidence, charisma, and masculinity definitely matter. But being completely oblivious to the fact that ATTRACTIVE women have so many options. Women will be more selective regarding appearance then if they had less options. You can have a really good looking attractive guy, but if he lacks confidence, masculinity, and charisma then of course he will suffer in the game. But certain physical traits can be considered a prerequisite in certain environments. Maybe men in Serbia should PROBABLY be at-least 6 foot plus, but a guy in Mexico will be perfectly fine with a height of 5 foot 6. There will always BE EXCEPTIONS, no doubt about it. Like I said before they are exceptions. It's about being the whole package looks + game + the right environment that will lead to exceptional results, generally speaking.