Post: #26

100% fake to be used later to discredit anyone against the left's agenda.

Post: #27

(01-26-2017 01:36 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  100% fake to be used later to discredit anyone against the left's agenda.

Entirely possible. Controlled opposition is a constant threat.

Post: #28

Hit Piece against against someone politically insignificant (Millenial Woes, anyone?).

Have found some videos of him on youtube, but in matters of paganism I think I stick to Varg and thuleanperspective.

Post: #29

Paganism historically is the beliefs and morality of the warrior caste.

Paganism follows a single evolution:

1) Worship of the Sun, Moon, elementals

2) Worship of fertility, farming: Njord, Titans, Cronus

3) Worship of Indo-European warrior gods: Odin, Wotan, Zeus, Apollon

The Edda talk about a great battle between the Vanir (traditional Norse gods) and the Aesir (invading Indo-Europeans). It ends in a truce, probably a representation of real events between Indo-Europeans and Indigneous Norse. On the contrary, in Greece Zeus (Indo-European) slays Cronos (farming god), who himself had castrated and killed his father Uranus (ancient indigneous elemental worship). The entire history of Europe is told in those myths. This is why people feel an instant connection, they tell our stories, while Judaism tells the story of the jews and Islam the story of the Arabs.

Post: #30

This thread has all the makings of a "this isn't going in the direction I was hoping for......"

Low-rep OP? Check
Edge lord title? Check
Idolizing questionable people? Check

This thread is almost as good as Raymond's thread about that Nazi sperg having game. C'mon, guys, we can do way better than this.

Post: #31

(01-26-2017 12:35 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 09:45 AM)kavi Wrote:  Neopagans are too coocky and way far away from real Indo European paganism to have any real relation to them.

Are you an expert on a real Indo European paganism? If so then please educate us with differences and commonalities in these two forms of paganism? Please also explain why neopaganism should be perfectly similar to old time paganism considering how much science advances have been made in the time span separating the fall of old time paganism an rise of neopaganism and since inability to adapt to latest iteration of scientific reality is the most common criticism for most religions?

If not then please pick up this turd you you just dropped and please leave with it because it stinks.

I am no expert on ancient Celtic religion but I do know alot about Indo-European paganism in general.

   

Modern Paganism is far too feminized with too much of a 'hippy' influence to be a real descended of real Indo-European religion. Indo-European religion was less mysticism and 'spirituality', IE priests had real status and prestige in their society. These people are a joke.

Quote:Statement 3: As an ancient pagan religion, Druidry is based on the reverential, sacred and honourable relationship between the people and the land.

Statement 4: In its personal expression,modern Druidry is the spiritual interaction between an individual and the spirits of nature, including those of landscape and ancestry, together with the continuities of spiritual, literary and cultural heritage.

Druidry is most of all a path (shorthand; for path read spirituality or religion or whatever works for you) of intimate wakeful relationship with all that you encounter

One can best become a Druid, in part, by living in awareness of the way in which your life affects the balance of the Eco-system.

Getting out and walking in the world, in the city as much as in the woods (it’s all natural, for a given value of nature!) but perhaps especially in the woods and in the wild wherever it may be found.

Druids will often stand up for a principle – Eco-protest groups will often be second homes to Druids, and Druids will likely be involved in activism of all sorts (on both sides of the established legal systems in which they operate). Speaking out, litter picking, facilitating positive change, helping make a better world for both human and non-human alike

https://druidnetwork.org/what-is-druidry...tions/faq/

Lols, so you think those are guys are related to these

Quote:The Greek historian Diodorus Siculus, writing in the 1st century BCE, described how Celtic warriors "cut off the heads of enemies slain in battle and attach them to the necks of their horses." ..among the Celts, "the heads of enemies held in high repute they used to embalm in cedar oil and exhibit to strangers. Archaeological evidence indicating that the Celts did indeed behead humans and then display their heads, possibly for religious purposes, has been unearthed at a number of excavations;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_polytheism

The Indo Europeans were all about survival, prestige and dominance and they lived in tough times. Military might was important, and it goes without saying masculinity was important too.

The neopagans are all about love the earth, feel connected, have wakefulness, walk in woods, protest environmental damage and have parties under the full moon.

The problem is there is too little information on Celtic religion, and much of what little there is is unreliable. Consider Greek paganism, where there is much more first hand literature available to us it is still very difficult to 'reconstruct' the religion of these people. This is because all literature needs interpretation and we are too far removed from the EARLY Indo Europeans to be able to get into their heads to find out why exactly they did what they did and produce the modern equivalent.

We know these neopagans are not real Indo European pagans because they are not interested in prestige, dominance and effectiveness in the real world. They have not produced anything of value, they do not get involved in politics and they are not interested in the accumulation of wealth and power.

Post: #32

(01-26-2017 01:36 AM)Mage Wrote:  I see many guys here have biased and low information view on paganism, as someone who has looked into it I can tell you that it makes much more sense for a modern human who seeks ways to balance civilized lifestyle with harmony with nature (including his inner masculine or feminine nature) then schizoid religions like Islam which only fuel fear and violence.

Who has said anything about Paganism, aside from mocking the guy's appearance?

Quote:I am 95% sure what this guy actually said was something much more moderate like "Islam and Judaism is not natural for white Germans, paganism is much better, illegal immigrants should be sent out of country" But what then happened is that press and media took it and made him look like literally Hitler who wants to send out anyone who is not supportive of paganism.

Think about it - the press calls Trump literally Hitler for merely wanting to stop illegal immigration, the press calls Roosh a rapist for merely teaching men how to gain consent of sex from women, but despite this you trust press to depict this guys views accurately and accept what they write about him, that he is a loony literally Hitler without further research?

I'm 100% with you on being extremely skeptical of media interpretations. But in this case, I'm basing my opinion solely on his direct quotes, for example:

"My self-esteem tells me that I have to destroy the Jews and Muslims before they destroy my clan or my family"

Not a whole lot of ambiguity there.

Post: #33

(01-26-2017 06:50 PM)kavi Wrote:  We know these neopagans are not real Indo European pagans because they are not interested in prestige, dominance and effectiveness in the real world. They have not produced anything of value, they do not get involved in politics and they are not interested in the accumulation of wealth and power.

The kind of pagans you refer to are mostly known today as Odinist/Wotanist pagans.

Post: #34

I don't think so, my quotes are from what looks like a good source on Druidism, which is what the guy says he follows.

Post: #35

(01-26-2017 08:55 PM)kavi Wrote:  I don't think so, my quotes are from what looks like a good source on Druidism, which is what the guy says he follows.

Yeah, I didn't make it clear, those pagans who are closer to your Indo-European paganism, usually call themselves Folkish/Völkish/Wotanist/Odinist.