Post: #1

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/bl...700-a-m-16

Posting from my phone:


The article points out that the site has ~410k women, Canadian women specifically, looking for a sugar daddy. So under the assumption that the majority of the women are 20 to 34, you can go on to the Statistics Canada website where you find that there are 3.7 million women that age in the country. Assuming very few duplicate accounts, 1 in 10 women in the country are signing up to be a form of a prostitute.

So: Moral Decay or a Bad Economy? Both?

Post: #2

Both. Out of those 1 of 10, how many will actually get a sugar daddy? When men have that kind of money, they aren't going to spend it on 5 or 6s.

It also means that an increasing number of men in Canada aren't considered good enough by the women there - and that's including the low SMV women as well.

Post: #3

(01-22-2017 01:23 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Both. Out of those 1 of 10, how many will actually get a sugar daddy? When men have that kind of money, they aren't going to spend it on 5 or 6s.

Few would agree with this statement. Tons of wealthy guys are getting scraps or not even getting that.

Post: #4

Sugar daddies aren't out everywhere, most of the guys on seekingarrangement are recruited from escort sites like eccie.net

99% of them are low end johns who offer the girls less than what they would get on backpage. It takes these girls 3-6 months and tons of 1st meetings to even to get $3,000 per month, if they ever even get it.

see the "frustration" these girls face yourself:

https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/sugar-bowl

Post: #5

from the hot ones, my experience says that about 6 in 10 are trying to become sugar babies

welcome to the new world, gentlemen

Post: #6

Canada is quickly becoming a country like Scotland where the smartest thing a young person can do is get a work visa in a country with a good economy. It was always a winner-take-all place with very little opportunity to climb the socioeconomic ladder.

I'm in Western Australia now and I asked a random Canuck hairdresser (HB 5) wtf she was doing down here. Her answer, "just living the dream, like you, you know?" A vacuous response I'd expect from a Canadian girl.

I don't think I'd even want to go back to Toronto and wife up a girl there anymore. Sure, I can probably find a HB7-8 with some effort but her brain is poisoned with sjw shit, probably not worth it in the long run. They aren't eager to please me like women in EE.

Post: #7

(01-22-2017 01:11 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  Assuming very few duplicate accounts,

That might be a bad assumption.

Quote:1 in 10 women in the country are signing up to be a form of a prostitute.

But it doesn't necessarily mean the conclusion in the thread title is wrong.

Quote:So: Moral Decay or a Bad Economy? Both?

AWALT?

Post: #8

A girl I used to date had a friend who was a typical modern urban independent and sophisticated woman. This friend was loud and brash and very concerned with style, eating in good restaurants, and keeping her figure -- i.e. she was a vapid, rude sloot in the 7 - 8 range riding the carousel. The kind of girl that we here all know and love (to bang then next).

My ex was amazed at how her friend could afford trips abroad, top brand fashions and accessories, and a condo in Toronto on her salary as a manager at a Lululemon store.

I asked my ex if the friend's dad was rich. He wasn't. So I next asked if the friend had snagged a well-to-do Bay street type as a boyfriend. Nope. So I then concluded that the friend was selling her pussy-- either as a full-on escort or banging rich guys on the down low for monetary assistance.

The ex was shocked and mad at me for suggesting such a thing. I just laughed at her denial of reality. Because 2 + 2 = 4 and a reasonably attractive girl living outside her means in an expensive city = a girl renting her holes out for profit.

Post: #9

I strongly suspect the true number among college age girls is WELL over 1 in 10. Most though won't actually go through with it, and there just isn't enough guys out there willing to pay. It's worth mentioning also that a lot of the ones who are actually find their sugar daddy off Tinder rather than Seeking Arrangement.

Post: #10

(01-24-2017 05:24 PM)Germanicus Wrote:  A girl I used to date had a friend who was a typical modern urban independent and sophisticated woman. This friend was loud and brash and very concerned with style, eating in good restaurants, and keeping her figure -- i.e. she was a vapid, rude sloot in the 7 - 8 range riding the carousel. The kind of girl that we here all know and love (to bang then next).

My ex was amazed at how her friend could afford trips abroad, top brand fashions and accessories, and a condo in Toronto on her salary as a manager at a Lululemon store.

I asked my ex if the friend's dad was rich. He wasn't. So I next asked if the friend had snagged a well-to-do Bay street type as a boyfriend. Nope. So I then concluded that the friend was selling her pussy-- either as a full-on escort or banging rich guys on the down low for monetary assistance.

The ex was shocked and mad at me for suggesting such a thing. I just laughed at her denial of reality. Because 2 + 2 = 4 and a reasonably attractive girl living outside her means in an expensive city = a girl renting her holes out for profit.

I hope she's saving some of that hookin' money. A chick I used to date, a solid 8.5 born in Ukraine raised in Toronto, kept telling me about her trips abroad and lavish lifestyle, blah blah (this is after we stopped dating, kept in touch on FB). She's never held down a job longer than a few months, she says she makes money from her blog. Rrriiigghhhtttt

Post: #11

I've legit unattractive girls show me prove of having regular sugar daddies. I'm talking cash for maybe seeing each other 2-3 times a month.

Don't underestimate the lack of game and thirst that some wealthy (or men in general) have.

Post: #12

I forget the article, I think it was in my school paper, but most of the profiles for sugar babies comes from women in the Toronto area, there is a overrepresented ammount of them.

Post: #13

Silly sugar babies, the more they expect too much while fresh, the more they'll end up as boxes of raisins.

Post: #14

Sex has always been a commodity for sale. Women will deny it but when their backs against the wall financially or there's a chance to get ahead using what's between there legs , many will take advantage. As more and more jobs leave North America , and essentials become luxuries more and more people are being forced to get innovative to survive. Wealth is constantly be dangled in your face if you live a metropolitan area. Here in Toronto in the last few months they just opened a Saks and two Nordstroms, the value of houses downtown and in east York are doubling and tripling over the course of 5 to 10 years and an unpaid internship is considered a blessing for many.

In addition to that, these girls open up their IG feed and see girls that they sometimes know they look better than down on South Beach, Ocean Drive and Fairfax with the hashtags #lovinglife and wonder why they can't be apart of that too. Why can't they have those experiences ? Why can't she live like Kim K? Why can't someone take care of her? So she does some googling, maybe asks a friend and makes an account. She goes out for a dinner with a dude , doesn't even touch his dick and he e-transfers her 500$ for her 2 hours of her company. She realizes thats double what she saw on her last pay stub and decides she's never going back. That's how you get to where we are today. Economics and sex go hand in hand.

Women have always aspired for luxury and the FEELINGS that come with pampering, but when it can keep them fed, they go OD.

Post: #15

(01-24-2017 09:58 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  I've legit unattractive girls show me prove of having regular sugar daddies. I'm talking cash for maybe seeing each other 2-3 times a month.

Don't underestimate the lack of game and thirst that some wealthy (or men in general) have.

I imagine the psychology of the sugar daddy runs deeper than sex for money. Some probably like the idea of a woman on their shelf just like a classic car they never drive or a condo they never stay in. Still I wonder about their taste in some cases but to each their own..

Post: #16

People have to remember a lot of these guys that sponsor girls followed their career paths delaying success with women, thinking that they would be rewarded for their degrees and companies by the women they held off on. They find out having all that money either does nothing for them or attracts a certain type of woman, and have no choice but to purchase what they've been waiting so long for. They don't even know what game is. Sex was always transactional for them, whether it was being a nice guy in exchange for the finest women as mom told them, or paying for a hermes bag for some sloppy toppy. Perspective is everything in these cases.

Post: #17

#14 Mayweather:

I'm no Economist or Sexconomist, but if there are a disproportionate amount of thots willing to be Sugarbabies in the Greater Toronto region, wouldn't that imply sexcess supply, thus lowering prices?

When I was a university student in Toronto, there were discussions that certain chicks on campus were raking in at least $30,000 Canadian (about US$28,700 in 2013) at the time PER MONTH doing sugar baby.

This is different compared to working as an escort, because sex prices are constant in the "industry", & every client pays a fixed fee to fuck (more work), but magically these Sugar Babies use their "time" to indulge in expensive dinners, along with earning $$$$ without even the expectation of providing a sexual service which would make T.I. "Whatever you Like" sound like he wanted a booty call chick.

My theory is that Toronto attracts thousands of wealthy immigrants who are able to afford to spend $$$$ on these chicks. Immigration to Canada requires money, so most likely the Chinese International "student" driving a Bentley or 2016 model Porsche down the University of Toronto Scarborough campus while claiming "student income" on the tax return is "dating" a local Canadian woman, but paying her like a Sugarbaby.

I've seen with my own eyes in downtown Toronto, chicks who appear to be sexless, I hate men type of chicks on the cover, but when they talking with an "International" student in class from China, Singapore or Saudi Arabia, the thing I overhearing is this---$$$$$$$$$, how much $$$$, what is the income in Singapore, what do you own in Singapore.

I wish I could tell those international students & rich beta males that hot chicks with better personalities can be found in Miami or even in Cuba, but being labelled as a "typical American" in Canada nearly got me beat up. They probably want to maintain the pussy scarcity bubble in Canada.

I just don't see how chicks who do escort for about 10k a month if she is doing good business, while Sugar Babies on Toronto campuses who don't even put up for sex are able to earn 30k a month, not at the rate of fucking like the escort who is obligated to fuck for a client for a fee.

It is a skewered form of Sexonomicxxx.

[Note that hiring Sugar Babies is considered illegal in many countries because that is considered prostitution.
This forum doesn't encourage prostitution such as sugar baby]