Post: #26

My standards for beauty have always been on the high side and have remained the same. However, my standards for personality have increased. I can no longer tolerate poor attitudes even in a beautiful women. This is a by product of age and having a lower tolerance for women who aren't bringing anything to the table execpt looks. This is a natural progression for most men.

Post: #27

(01-12-2017 07:57 PM)Dantes Wrote:  My standards for beauty have always been on the high side and have remained the same. However, my standards for personality have increased. I can no longer tolerate poor attitudes even in a beautiful women. This is a by product of age and having a lower tolerance for women who aren't bringing anything to the table execpt looks. This is a natural progression for most men.

Yes, any man that willingly accepts poor female behavior as he gets older actively participates in his own emasculation. There's no woman Too Hot to Dump. If she has a bad attitude, next her. No more likes on facebook, no more texts, etc. If all men did this, women would have less orbiters and learn to be nicer in the aggregate.

Post: #28

(01-12-2017 08:08 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 07:57 PM)Dantes Wrote:  My standards for beauty have always been on the high side and have remained the same. However, my standards for personality have increased. I can no longer tolerate poor attitudes even in a beautiful women. This is a by product of age and having a lower tolerance for women who aren't bringing anything to the table execpt looks. This is a natural progression for most men.

Yes, any man that willingly accepts poor female behavior as he gets older actively participates in his own emasculation. There's no woman Too Hot to Dump. If she has a bad attitude, next her. No more likes on facebook, no more texts, etc. If all men did this, women would have less orbiters and learn to be nicer in the aggregate.

This is what's been affecting me the most since I hit my 30's. I can't stand dealing with shitty attitudes anymore just to get laid. I've turned down sex numerous times in the last few years because I couldn't stand the girl's attitude. Either walked out of their place without saying a word, or kicked them out of my apartment. If I was in my 20's I would have just let them talk BS and nodded my head until they were ready to bang. Now that I'm in my early 30's I've lost that ability. My looks standards haven't changed but my standards for a girl's personality have markedly increased. Unfortunately girl's personalities are getting worse on average with each passing year.

Post: #29

(01-12-2017 09:02 PM)zphyer7 Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 08:08 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 07:57 PM)Dantes Wrote:  My standards for beauty have always been on the high side and have remained the same. However, my standards for personality have increased. I can no longer tolerate poor attitudes even in a beautiful women. This is a by product of age and having a lower tolerance for women who aren't bringing anything to the table execpt looks. This is a natural progression for most men.

Yes, any man that willingly accepts poor female behavior as he gets older actively participates in his own emasculation. There's no woman Too Hot to Dump. If she has a bad attitude, next her. No more likes on facebook, no more texts, etc. If all men did this, women would have less orbiters and learn to be nicer in the aggregate.

This is what's been affecting me the most since I hit my 30's. I can't stand dealing with shitty attitudes anymore just to get laid. I've turned down sex numerous times in the last few years because I couldn't stand the girl's attitude. Either walked out of their place without saying a word, or kicked them out of my apartment. If I was in my 20's I would have just let them talk BS and nodded my head until they were ready to bang. Now that I'm in my early 30's I've lost that ability. My looks standards haven't changed but my standards for a girl's personality have markedly increased. Unfortunately girl's personalities are getting worse on average with each passing year.

Try traveling. There's more to the world than American women, which maintain a poor reputation overall for a reason. Granted, there are girls here in the US who are the exception, not the rule, but as a whole, you're better off dating abroad.

Post: #30

I avoid women over 30 and I have become more cerebral (if she can't get it up, she is out)

Post: #31

My standards have definitely gone up as I've gotten older in line with my SMV, both for bangs and relationships.
When I was a nerdy teenage kid I was happy just to make out with a girl or have a girlfriend and at university I banged a fair few girls I wouldn't even consider these days.
But once I discovered myself, hit the gym, wore better clothes and my career took off it gave me access to better quality women. Learning game helped here hugely as well.

Now I won't even think of dating a girl unless I really enjoy her company, she's hot and low drama. I'll also pass on banging a girl if she's not at least a 6 or her personality is annoying. A new notch just doesn't mean anything to me any more, it's all about quality of life.

Post: #32

The BONER TEST is the standard. The boner never lies, but there is a Grading Curve.

The Grading Curve is from; a. the amount of Alcohol consumed and b. the Time between Fucks.

I don't have the math skills to make the said chart.

Post: #33

Definitively up

Post: #34

Standards have become more sophisticated as I've matured but I know that would be the case anyway. You live and you learn.

Post: #35

Raised for just sex, and definitely raised for LTR.

The more I am getting older the more I am improving myself so I have access to more beautiful girls.

And with my 26 years, I saw what are women capable of, so my LTR standards are so high I am not sure that I will find a girl for relationship.

Post: #36

Hard to say for me. I screen differently for different attributes but overall I would say, no.

Post: #37

Without a doubt, raised.

Post: #38

(01-12-2017 02:09 PM)XXL Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 12:14 PM)Pride male Wrote:  Roissy once wrote that every man has to settle for less at some point. Even DiCaprio has to lower his standards from 9 to 7.

He's wrong.

What about when you're 77 or 78? Will you still be getting sorority queens at State?

Post: #39

(01-13-2017 09:51 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 02:09 PM)XXL Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 12:14 PM)Pride male Wrote:  Roissy once wrote that every man has to settle for less at some point. Even DiCaprio has to lower his standards from 9 to 7.

He's wrong.

What about when you're 77 or 78? Will you still be getting sorority queens at State?

When you're 77 you're almost dead. You're so old that you're not even thinking about pussy you're thinking to getting to you another birthday. Don't start me with Hugh Hefners or some other anomalies. I'm talking about regular people.

And this nonsense about DiCaprio lowering his standards from 9 to 7 is pathethic or hilarious or both. I'm speechless. If he had to go from 9 to 7 then we would have to go from 7 to 3. What the fuck this dude is on?

Leo is in the top 1% of males on the planet. Handsome, acclaimed actor, rich, glamorous lifestyle, healthy. He can have any girl he wants. Even fucking Drake can have any girl.

Just because some of those 1% guys make bad decisions and end up divorced, sued, etc [Kobe, Brad, Tiger] doesn't mean they have to look for less attractive women. If anything the women have to raise their standards of their own behavior, looks, attitude, etc AND HAVE A LUCK to even have a slight chance with men like those.

To roissy with love..

Post: #40

(01-12-2017 07:57 PM)Dantes Wrote:  My standards for beauty have always been on the high side and have remained the same. However, my standards for personality have increased. I can no longer tolerate poor attitudes even in a beautiful women. This is a by product of age and having a lower tolerance for women who aren't bringing anything to the table execpt looks. This is a natural progression for most men.

this is the same for me, but everyone is different.

I have a long-time friend who is as tall and about the same level of looks as me, and he used to screw everything from 5s to 9s and 25 years later still does the same range. Me, I wait for high 7s and mostly 8s with the occassional 9.

What is different is that I am attracted to a broader range of woman. To me, its not settling, more women give me a boner.

Also, I am more selective about non-looks issues. Like someone else said, once you have 100+ bangs, you are more interested in what they bring to the table, both on the plus side and the minus side (ex drama, other problems).

Post: #41

Snipped and bolded what really resonates with me:

(01-12-2017 10:49 AM)XXL Wrote:  ...The reason for this is that I was never interested in pump and dump thing. Every girl I actively went for was attractive and once we slept with each other I kept seeing her to enjoy ourselves as much and long as we could. Why would I dump a girl after having sex few times?...

Interesting thing is that every GF I had raised the bar more or less for another girl. These days I cannot imagine dating a girl who does not wear high heels and dresses. It's impossible to me, I literally lose interest when a girl rocks sneakers etc. I'm spoiled little shit now but I like where it's going

The two bolded concepts have always been in play for me.

I break "rules" all the time when running my own deep conversions. I have a knack for honing in on girls I truly click with, and letting them ride along with me as I decide how 'seriously' to take them. I almost never suggest the next meet -- if a girl likes me, she continually will. My schedule is flexible and if I'm feeling it, I'll sit back and watch her self-adjust her schedule and slough normal obligations, try to add value/pleasure to my life, etc. If it lasts a few days, it's mine to have for months if I choose.

When I was a beta in high school but lucked into a great LTR at the end, I remember a savvy much-older brother of a friend observe that over his lifetime, each subsequent girlfriend was hotter and nicer, progressively, as if that's just what happens. Never forgot that sentiment at my first big heartbreak. Game =~ entitlement.

I've had my phases of quantity over quality and keeping multiple girls at a distance, but keep coming back to the zone of having a personal 8+ on falling-in-love-and-trying-to-win-me-over lockdown for 4 - 20 months until it gets stale. The more time I dedicate to business and the urge to party subsides, the nicer this mode is.

Eschewing online game for years and meet most girls in passing (evening sidewalk, between or sometimes in venue), it's always basically a meet-cute from her perspective. In NYC so there's unlimited "dealflow" and I've had decades to hone my niche -- 23-25, gorgeous, conservative streak, healthy sense of curiosity + drive, and that "happy gene" people mention. I'm approaching mid-30s.

So I'd say for now I've been consistently raising standards for bang and relationship, since age 17.

I'll rephrase it as, raising standards for Looks and Behavior. My Behavior curve started high and has risen consistently. My Looks curve started mediocre and has exponentially risen from age 26 - 32+.

Hoping it will never have to feel like settling, if I keep being who I am (hah), but hopefully my priorities will shift before it feels like settling.

Post: #42

Definitely raised over 15 happily married years. Bride was a high 7 virgin. She's aged well and also is a yoga instructor, so today, she's a real standout, high 8 / low 9 (compared to others her age).

Having had it so good over the years, I'm spoiled. If I were to lose my wife, it would be very hard for me to settle for less. Maybe a very bright-eyed girl under 30 would do it for me if she were pretty, teachable, and had just the right mix of sweet and sassy. No fatties or plain girls, though, no matter how sweet. I just can't go there anymore.

Post: #43

(01-12-2017 06:59 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  My standards for looks has always been moderate to high. Never been a fan of dumpster diving. Seems embarrassing to me. Perhaps I'm just not as horny as some other men. I don't do casual sex any longer, as I'm in LTR/wife hunting mode at this current point in my life. I'd be okay marrying a wife who is a 7, not a 9 or 10, as long as she has a great attitude and smarts. My standard for a woman's personality has to be a 9 or 10. I'm extremely picky that I won't date feminists or lazy chicks, selfish chicks, etc. When a man is in it for the long game, he must filter ruthlessly, whereas when a man just wants a quick roll in the sack, he's only filtering more so for sluttiness (easiness factor) and secondarily looks. The women who are most slutty tend to be of middling attractiveness, because more attractive women can usually (not always) get men on lock down for commitment. That is especially true in countries where there is a shortage of attractive women, like the United States.

I am also in this boat. My standards have never been low for beauty. But I would be willing to wife up, say, a high 6 with a pretty face, cheery attitude, zero notch count, and domestic desires and skills... a talent stack that was plentiful prior to 1960 but which seems to be in short supply now (in the USA).

Post: #44

Considerably raised along with my red-pillness and self-development.

In my beta years, around 6 years ago, I nearly got engaged to a single mom - I was loving her and ready to accept her child as my own. Finally some big differences split us, and I have to thank God for that.

When discovering the red pill, I discovered the importance of female virignity, young age, and complete family. Moving to Thailand also helped a lot, since I moved to a place where a family is "a mother, a father, and kids", rather than "kids, the state, feminists, and a LGBT couple". My standards skyrocketed to the point where I was mad at myself for being attracted to broken girls before.

Post: #45

My standards have raised. I know what type of woman I want to keep in my life. There are a lot of them out there. I am fearless in approaching now, resulting in pursuing hotter woman I am attracted to. But I have always gone after the hotter girls in my peer groups and social circles. My ex wife, my ex LTR's, were always the hotter girls in my social sphere, and I pursued them unabashedly. But now, meeting girls online and through approach, I am dating random attractive women that I have to learn about over time, whether I want to try and stay with them. My standards keep going up though, to the point where I am mainly approaching taller European women mid-late 20's. After that I guess it would be models, and there are plenty of those running around the streets of my city. This summer I am going to approach models when I see them, and see what happens. My standards have gone up, but I have always dated, LTR'd and married the hotter girls in my social sphere. Barring a few regrettable slump busters, I think I have done quite well.

Post: #46

My standards keep getting higher every day...

Post: #47

Standards of what I fuck has gone down, what I date has gone up.

Post: #48

Looks wise way down. I'm more interested in her bedroom game.

A lot of really beautiful girls can't fuck. I'll take a halfway decent/butterface girl who will suck me and fuck me at a professional level.

Post: #49

^Hear the man!

Post: #50

I'm only 23, but have been actively in the community and going out "gaming" since I was 17. Started with daygame at the local mall then mostly nightgame when I turned 18 (legal drinking age here).
My standards have vastly improved in the sense that I won't just fuck any girl that gives me the chance. Once I hit a high notch count (currently around 130 or so, I stopped updating my list at 100), I no longer felt the need to fuck every girl in sight to validate my existence and tell myself I am a man. And this is the most liberating feeling ever. I am no longer desperate or needy for the bang. I now only go for bangs with women that I deem beautiful and high quality and I enjoy sex in the moment immensely more. Sex for me is now about enjoying pleasure in the moment, whereas it used to be only about getting a "notch" and as soon as my dick penetrated a vagina my work was done because I now had an indisputable notch to add to my list.

Also, I am slowly warming up to the ideas spread around by older and wiser members of this forum about the headaches and bullshit dating a very beautiful girl brings. They have so many guys (high caliber men too) constantly trying to hit them up or lock them down. All the time, it never stops. It's draining. Perhaps I simply don't yet posses the frame and game prowess to properly maintain these unicorns, or it's simply the way it will always be with them