Post: #1

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle...7#comments

The term "fake news" was started up by liberals a few months ago as a way to poison the well when it came to conservative leaning sites. However, the conservatives quickly counterattacked by co-opting it, depriving it of the power the liberals thought it would have.

The latest MSM tactic did not go in the direction they were expecting.

Post: #2

The morons at the Washington Compost are so self-serving that they believe themselves to be the moral paragons of The Truth. While in reality, least than one out of three Americans trust the MSM. When your trust levels are that low, and your rapport is that bad, people tend to ASSOCIATE YOU WITH FAKE NEWS. Only braindead dyed-in-the-wool liberals actually believes the MSM any longer. The lies and fabrications were something they started. The nerve to actually call out fake news (even if it is actually fake!) is absurd, seeing they are the origin of all falsehood.

Quote:The Gospel of John Chapter 8, Verse 44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Post: #3

Literally everything liberals does backfires. They basically got Trump elected by alienating the electorate with their insufferable smugness.

Their whole movement is in a huge tailspin as their world comes crashing down around them. There's so little we have to do to oppose them anymore, they do it themselves.

To think we were worried by these people 12 months ago...

Post: #4

But is facetwatter still using fact checkers?

Post: #5

Maybe in the short run.

The goal is killing the 1st amendment, which is always in danger. Trump was a huge victory in this realm, but let's not let our guard down.

We have cultural controls of speech already.

I hope the last year has killed the libs for at least 8 years, but all it takes is one bill or executive order to fuck things up forever.

Post: #6

<I>While in reality, least than one out of three Americans trust the MSM.</I>

That high? The latest I heard was around 10%.

Post: #7

Isn't Trump only going to stay around for 4 years?

Post: #8

So Little Dark is one of (((The Elite)))?

Post: #9

Our forum's nemesis, Caitlin Dewey, was one of the leaders in the "Fake News" meme with a series of articles she wrote or co-wrote back in November:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...1f3637ad83

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...ced66ba896

Shortly thereafter, the New York Times and other MSM sources jumped on the idea. Ms Dewey has since been reassigned as a "food economics" reporter for WaPo so she apparently is no longer involved, as least professionally, with the fake news campaign.

Post: #10

The only fake news was what Clinton supporters watched during the run up to the elections - that's why they were so stunned at the results. MSNBC, CNN, and all the rest led them to believe (i.e., lied) that she was sure to win. They were too happy to hear it and never questioned anything the fakers were telling them.

Post: #11

The failure of the msm "fake news" narrative has been glorious. They just keep shooting themselves in the foot. Only a true moron would have any faith in American mainstream news media at this point.

Post: #12

Vox Day provides evertaining analysis... All their rhetoric are belong to us.

Vox Day Wrote:All your rhetoric are belong to us



A GamerGate tactic goes mainstream and the mainstream media backs down fast.

"Washington Compost Wrote:When Jim DeMint wanted to dis a TV interviewer’s suggestion that Obamacare has merits as well as flaws, the former senator and tea partyer used a handy putdown: “You can put all that under the category of fake news.”

When conspiracy theorist Alex Jones wanted to deny a CNN report that Ivanka Trump would take over the East Wing offices traditionally occupied by the first lady, he used the same label.

And when a writer for an arch-conservative website needed a putdown for ABC’s chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl, he reached for the obvious: “fake-news propagandist.”

Fake news has a real meaning — deliberately constructed lies, in the form of news articles, meant to mislead the public. For example: The one falsely claiming that Pope Francis had endorsed Donald Trump, or the one alleging without basis that Hillary Clinton would be indicted just before the election.

But though the term hasn’t been around long, its meaning already is lost. Faster than you could say “Pizzagate,” the label has been co-opted to mean any number of completely different things: Liberal claptrap. Or opinion from left-of-center. Or simply anything in the realm of news that the observer doesn’t like to hear.

“The speed with which the term became polarized and in fact a rhetorical weapon illustrates how efficient the conservative media machine has become,” said George Washington University professor Nikki Usher.

As Jeremy Peters wrote in the New York Times: “Conservative cable and radio personalities, top Republicans and even Mr. Trump himself . . . have appropriated the term and turned it against any news they see as hostile to their agenda.”

So, here’s a modest proposal for the truth-based community.

Let’s get out the hook and pull that baby off stage. Yes: Simply stop using it.

The Alt-Right and conservatives managed to jujitsu the rhetorical term "fake news" so easily because the best rhetoric is rooted in truth. And because it is readily observable that no one reports more false information than the mainstream media, there were far more examples that could be reasonably described as "fake news" to be found in the mainstream media than were being spread around social media by the Right. Ergo, it stuck to them rather than to their targets, and blew up in their faces.

That doesn't mean the tactic will work every time, only when the truth is more in line with the Right's use of the rhetorical term than the Left's. Of course, that will be most of the time, as the shameless dishonesty in this piece demonstrates:

"the label has been co-opted to mean any number of completely different things: Liberal claptrap. Or opinion from left-of-center. Or simply anything in the realm of news that the observer doesn’t like to hear."

No, it hasn't, as it was instead applied to mean false information presented as accurate news by the mainstream media. Notice that Left can't afford to be completely honest even when they are affecting to do so, which is why they will always be vulnerable to rhetorical jujitsu of this sort. And on a tangential note, observe that this is why larping and "mocking" the media by playing along with its narrative is always a mistake, as doing so strengthens their rhetoric and eliminates the possibility of turning it around on them.

If you don't understand the tactic's connection to #GamerGate, it is an application of the frequently used GG tactic of taking over enemy hashtags, also known as "all ur hashtag are belong to us". I even described this specific tactic in modest detail in SJWs Always Lie.

Post: #13

People realized that Washington Post IS fake news