Not a ton to update from Toronto.. mostly just been getting things in order, hitting the gym a bunch, and not partying much. As far as girls go, I have enough here that I've been doing repeats for the most part. There was +1, 67 on the year, 6/10, Canadian that I had met on Tinder ages ago. We snapped each other pretty scandalous stuff while I was in Europe for the summer so it was just a matter of time. She came straight over to my place.. not much more to add there.
Since I had the time, I thought I'd type a quick post up on my take on game and strategy when I'm out at night. I did buy Roosh's book, so I'll comment on my takeaways from that when I finish, but this was written before that.
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I think an underrated aspect of night game is not just making approaches, it's making the right approaches. Many, if not most of the times I go out, I'll make 1-3 approaches all night. While I would say my game is pretty decent, it's nowhere near as good as the ratio I normally pull. I think some people refer to it as Sniper Game. With that said, I'll give some tips on how I evaluate a bar and it's prospects and make my pulls. Keep in mind these are more pub/bar types than clubs, but some aspects still apply.
BODY LANGUAGE/CONFIDENCE: (55%)
First thing you can do is evaluate the body language of how people are interacting. Focus less on the ratio of the groups and more on the individual body language.
Which guys look confident? Have open body language and look to be the center of attention? That is your competition. There shouldn’t be more than a couple guys you have to worry about. Think about it, if the average guy sleeps with 10-20 girls in his life, what are the chances more than a few guys at the bar are actually going to pull a fresh girl that night. In reality, most guys have the goal of getting a number or a makeout, they don’t even realize they have the chance to go the distance.
Which girls are looking around the bar? Which ones are already flirting with guys? It’s little clues that make the easiest lays sometimes. When you a girl point you out to her friend and they both smile. Or a girl makes eye contact and smiles.
I was actually watching a Big Brother clip earlier (sue me!) where a girl gave her perspective:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CQLntMv30&t=155
It’s actually worth watching a bit past that point, she talks about red flags that a lot of guys make.
Regarding body language, I highly recommend this book:
https://www.amazon.ca/What-Every-BODY-Sa...0061438294 It’s can be a bit dry, and there are other aspects of game more important in the beginning, but once you reach an intermediate level, this a good place to make less obvious gains.
This is as good of a thread as I’ve ever seen on here regarding body language, props to CleanSlate
/thread-60035.html
There is also this gem if you haven’t seen it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBOtj1RmaUE
This guy also spits out some really good content in regards to body language and dealing with social interactions.. It’s worth a subscription.. Again very subtle quirks and mannerisms, but very informative with regards to not being AMOG’d.
https://www.youtube.com/user/CharismaMatrix/videos
Small body Language Tips:
-Hold you beer or drink to the side at your waste, not directly in front of your chest
-Keep your thumbs out of your pockets at all times, unless standing with the police officer pose with your thumbs hidden, but your hands pointed at your crotch
-If you are at the bar alone sitting at the bar, turn to one side and leave a gap between the chair to your right and you so people can order drinks next to you.. Easy opener to ask a girl what she’s drinking or whatever
-Keep an eye on feet, they are the most honest part of your body.. They will point at you typically if a girl is interested
-Keep your chin up and smile (smile with your eyes as well)
After reading Models, I 100% bought into the style of game where you are honest and vulnerable. Say what’s on your mind and don’t concern yourself with what other think. Too many guys are so fake when they are talking to girls.. My personal belief is there really aren’t any situations where lying is better than honesty. If you don’t want to answer something, that’s fine, but lying is just compensating for insecurities. If there is something you can’t be honest about, work on your life to make it so you can answer that question honestly. Even with age, I have a friend who is 46 who used to lie and say he was 30-35 for years.. Last year I convinced him to start saying his actual age and he said it’s one of the best things he ever did. And don’t be concerned, he’s still banging hot 20 year olds.
**Dealing with SJWs: My strategy here is to normally say something along the lines of “I agree with equal pay and opportunity and what not, but I think there is still a role for men and a role for women in society” Whether you believe it or not, this normally at least quells them and lets them know that you are a man and won’t deal with all of their BS. If you are really pro-Trump, it serves you no good in the Western World to make your views obviously known. I mean sometimes it’s fun just fucking with girls about it, I rock a MAGA hat occasionally for the entertainment, but if your goal is to get laid, it’s not in your benefit to hammer that point into the ground. I’m referring more to the wanna be SJWs in cities like Toronto, San Francisco, etc, where the men have become pretty beta.. If a girl is a hard core “you need permission to flirt” kind of SJW, I’m not going to waste my time of day.
STYLE/LOOKS: 20%
In University you can get away with dressing like a slob, but as you get older, and the older girls you are trying to go for, it will become way more difficult. Additionally, as you get older, dressing well helps you get the younger girls. So basically, it never hurts to dress better.
Dressing Tips:
Don't wear team athletic team gear, it doesn't have to be something fancy, but get some nice t-shirts, sweaters, well fitting jeans and decent shoes.
Try to get something a little better than your competition.. if you go to a college campus and everyone is wearing Northface and boat shoes, wear a little dressier jacket and some
nice dress shoes. I remember a few years ago at an southern college campus, I pulled one girl at 11pm, went back out and pulled another at 2am.. Both opened me saying I had a nice jacket. It was nothing that expensive or fancy, just something that was way nicer than anything a college kid wears. Another example is I was out in a rural Minnesota town a few weeks ago, I had a decent sweater on and jeans, nothing special, but all the locals were wearing hunting gear and trucker hats. The guys were chirping me for my sweater, the girls were opening me because of it.
Regarding both of the above, if you work on body language and dressing/style, you can basically go up a point or two. Combine that with good game and in reality you don’t have that much competition at the bar.
Confidence is hard to teach, but if your style improves and your body language looks more confident, eventually you actual confidence will increase as well. Fake it til you make it is true. You’ll know you’ve made it when you start noticing girls ask “How are you so confident.”
INTELLIGENCE: 5%
This is a slightly underrated aspect of game IMO. Also probably one that isn’t quite as controllable. I’d would say the guys I know that are best at gaming are all pretty intelligent guys… almost all entrepreneurs. I only read non-fiction and listen to podcasts when I’m out walking, in the metro, or in the shower. Most people don’t use that time to improve much but it’s a actually big percentage of your day. You can listen to podcasts like Startalk, Planet Money, Hardcore History, etc and learn about what’s happening in the world. Do a quick googlenews check in the morning and see what is happening. Personally I listen to the
Philip Defranco show every day, he gives a pretty good unbiased review of the biggest stories of the day.
POTENTIAL OPENERS:
I only use a few openers, unless there is something really situational that is worthy of an exception
-”Hey how’s your night going?”
-”You seem like a third wheel over here”
-”Where’s your drink? It’s a Friday night, time to party!”
Keep it simple! .
From there I’ll take it into a bit of conversation, not long, a few minutes of small talk. Then I’ll say something along lines of “you’re really cute, I like your ____.” Customize it, eyes, smile, laugh, etc. A lot of times I’ll say something like, “yeah I saw you earlier when I was talking with my friend and I knew I had to come say hi at some point.” If you did a good job dressing and with your body language up to that point, you’d be surprised how many times they’ll respond with “I noticed you to.”
BE A GOOD KISSER 10%
I don’t really know how you get better at this without have a girl teach you, but I really can’t overstate how important this is. It is such an important thing for ONS because in a girls brain, if you can kiss well you can fuck well. While “less is more” can be an argument for kisses at bars, I would say less time is more for sure, but show some of your cards at least, use a little tongue and a little biting. Show them you know what you are doing. Later on test out a little hair pulling and choking, but not too much. Hair pulling normally goes over well, choking is hit and miss so don’t be too aggressive, but when it hits, those girls are almost always DTF. Those are the ones you fuck in the bathroom if you want, some get so turned on.
DO NOT JUDGE 10%
Turn the conversation sexual and do not, under any circumstance, judge. If you are non judgemental and are confident enough, you can take the conversation anywhere. Last week I had a 4 some with a married couple and a young girl from the bar, had 2 Tinder dates the next 2 nights, told both about the 4some within the first 10 minutes of the date, and had both back at my apartment later in each of the respective nights. I would say at some point in the night, most of my pulls get asked when the last time they had sex was, if they’ve ever had a threesome, what their sluttiest stories are, etc. One caution note here is that I am white, I think brown guys would have a harder time getting overtly sexual without coming across as a bit creepy unfortunately. Regardless, as soon as your reply to her in a non accepting way, even subtly, you are going to be in trouble. If a girl does give me shit, I just act baffled and say “I honestly don’t know how these things happen to me, I was just going out to grab a beer by myself and next thing you know.”
The PULL:
First off, you need to win the friends over. If the girl is single and she likes you, many times her friends will be rooting for her to get laid. I’d say this starts more often around 20 years old, 18/19 y/o westerns can be more protective over their girlfriends. In EE/Scandy this is pushed back, so not to much to worry about typically with 18 year olds. If the friend is also single, help her find a guy. Ask her what her type is or to point to a guy she thinks is cute then be a wingman. What guy doesn’t like getting introduced to a girl who already thinks he’s hot, that a gift. Depending on the girl, my pulls can range anywhere from “let’s go grab a drink at my place” to “I want to fuck you, let’s go back to my place.”
Don't give the perception that you are expecting sex if she's hesitant to come back. Much of the time I'll use something like "Let's just do a drink and listen to music, I'm really not expecting anything when we go back, I am enjoying hanging out with you and I don't want the night to end yet" or "I'd be more than happy just to cuddle with you, we don't need to have sex or anything." It might sound beta from the outside, but it'll help comfort the girl if she's not a raging slut, and most of the time she'll end up sleeping with you anyway. Once you do get her shirt off, it's a good time to throw in a compliment, "you have the sexiest body," "you're fucking hot," something like that, because so many girls are really self conscious about their bodies. You want to make them feel wanted.
Sometimes the best information you can get to improve is after you sleep with a girl. Just for fun, ask a girl when she decided she wanted to sleep with you. This provides an insight into her brain and could range from the minute you started talking to her, to when you said something sexual, to she didn’t think she was going to until she got in bed with you. You’ll probably start to notice a trend with this and you can adjust your game accordingly. This is also a good time to bring up threesomes… ask her if she’s ever had one, if she would prefer MMF or FFM.. if she says no and FFM, throw it out that and say we should try to have one. Make it a competition on who can pick up the 2nd girl better (let her win).
If you notice in the Toronto threads, many people shit on the venues I go to as being divey, too small, not enough girls, too cliquey, etc… with the game I have it only takes one, so if there are 2-3 good looking girls and I can scout out the target one early enough in the night and make my move before the drunk guys get approach friendly, it’s really not rocket science. It’s definitely not a type of game you want to start your career with, because you only can get tight enough game for sniping if you’ve been through 100s or 1000s of sets that failed and gained the experience to navigate from beginning to end.
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I also planned out the rest of my year:
October: Mostly Krakow, a few days in Prague
Nov: A few days in Bratislava, 3 weeks SPB, 1 week Tallinn
Dec: 2 weeks in Madrid
Hit me up if anyone will be around!
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