Post: #1

Guys this whole sugar daddy thing is getting too big for its own britches. It ticks me off.

These Baby Boomer dudes rocked the economy and everything else into their favor and now they have all the money and this sugar daddy thing going for them. They are screwing 18-21 year olds left and right and it leaves more younger men imbalanced due to these grey hair baffoons sucking the well dry.

Its no wonder half of the college girls are intensely cold and disinterested for no apparent reason, while the real reasoning is they are dating so many sugar daddies and extracting more moolah from them than any younger guys could ever provide. And its all normalized... I mean sugaring is a new profession beyond just prostitution. There are actual professional seminars for learning how to be sugar babies.

What is the next phase after seeking arrangements? How could it get any worse than this?

Post: #2

Well there's already "Name your price"....so instead of long term prostitution, it's one-time prostitution!! But it's not prostitution, it's called paying for a date. Not many girls are trying this but word is getting out there. I feel sorry for the old hags (28+) that don't get any messages and have to resort to looking for men and making the first move.

Tell a SA what she really is, a whore/prostitute, and watch her reaction. Bitches will go ballistic and have a hard meltdown.

Post: #3

I asked a version of this question in the "imbalance" thread, wondering how the West will (d)evolve, given that the economies won't really get better, at least for the masses.

Post: #4

I don't see how you guys think 28 year old women could be old hags. But anyways...

The next phase is going to be child prostitution in the USA, normalized, with online shops similar to Seeking Arrangements. It is going to be Baby Boomer generation guys doing it because they are the ones who took all the money.

Post: #5

(12-27-2016 09:49 PM)Kinko Wrote:  Guys this whole sugar daddy thing is getting too big for its own britches. It ticks me off.

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And its all normalized... I mean sugaring is a new profession beyond just prostitution. There are actual professional seminars for learning how to be sugar babies.

Hey Kinko,

I'm curious why you think that sugaring has become normalised - I know that sugaring & SA has been written about quite a lot, and there are certainly girls who are into that - but is it really a *mainstream* phenomenon? You say that "college girls" are doing it - is it really something that a majority - or even just a significant number - of the college girls are doing? To me it seems more like a niche phenomenon that has been blown out of proportion, but maybe I'm wrong. Do you have more insights / personal experience that suggests that sugaring is really becoming a big thing that affects the whole culture / the dating market?

Post: #6

All it will take is one Sugar Daddy horror story to go viral and the whole thing will loose its "glamour".

Post: #7

Ice, because the economy has changed so much that working full time jobs is not enough anymore. I see girls that work these jobs out on the town with old men. Their jobs at Whole Foods and Panera are not enough. Even girls at lawyer offices need extra money to keep up with the hyper consumerism lifestyles.

I have a pretty good sense that this sugar daddy thing is out of control and way way too common today.

There are plenty of internet articles about college girls with sugar daddies. Heck the websites give free membership to girls with .edu emails. Ive heard NYU is the worst with well over 50% of the girls there have sugar daddies.

There are actual seminars today for teaching girls how to be professional sugar babies.

What more evidence do you need?

Post: #8

I agree the baby boomers fucked the economy in their favor.

But don't hate the sugar daddy game. Don't hate the playa hate the game. Lotsa dudes getting babes without money.

Post: #9

Plant, this is my second topic about this at RVF. Forget about feminism. These sugar daddying websites are the grand poobah of things effecting our relationships today. Think about it.

Its definately becoming normalized. Its definately an abnormal economy that forces women into prostitution instead of getting boyfriends and forming stable relationships that benefit society.

First there were brothels
Then it was street corner girls
Then we had Craigslist personals
Then it was Backpage
Now its dozens of sugar daddy sites

Next it is websites for child prostitutes for rich old men in USA. It's a serious social problem. Its worse then feminism issues. In fact it is something that we need to bring to the attention of feminists because those bitches have what it takes to attack the issues better then we can.

If you have dated a dozen women this year, how many do you think have secretly done seeking arrangements?

If she has any past drug use history there is a good chance she considered sugar daddying over screwing a drug dealer for more drugs.

If she works some retail job or works at a deli or a fast food place there is a good chance she has considered it.

If she has no family support, and has an apartment of her own, theres a good chance somebody is helping her.

And another thing is that nobody is helping men like that. Not really. Honestly I had a sugar mama for a while. It was based mostly upon how dysfunctional and sexually crazy I was and this somehow led to a sugar mama. She gave me a free place to stay and other stuff but she was sort of a cheapo. You know?

Where the hell am I going with all this...

Post: #10

Kinko how many "real" sugar daddies are there really (aka legitimately rich guys)? Like one of the posters said this is being blown way out of proportion.

Guys who have money are not growing on trees, rich people are only 1% of the population. And even then only a fraction of that are on sugar daddy sites. Chill bro.

Post: #11

Hasn't the sexual market place (SMP), for thousands of years, been monopolized by men with the most resources? If true, then the only period in history when it has been equalized was from the industrial revolution until the present day. So, if the SMP is swinging back towards that model, then it's just returning to its roots.

Post: #12

(12-28-2016 08:21 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  All it will take is one Sugar Daddy horror story to go viral and the whole thing will loose its "glamour".

You mean all it takes is for someone to hack SA and leak the names, address, credit card details, ip addresses, phone numbers and private messages of the thousands and thousands of prostitutes and married men cheating on their wives and the website is finished.

Until a few years down the line when it all starts again under a new moniker.

As to what comes after it. Well it can't go much lower than paying for a whore.

Post: #13

The reason SA is so popular is slut shaming. Girls brag about their time on there and it lures other girls in. Example:

Girl: "OMG I met a guy for coffee and he gave me $10000. I didn't even kiss him." (she really met a guy and got paid $200-300 to fuck him)

Then her friend signs up. It's the equivalent of a stripper saying she makes $1000 a night and doesn't even give lap dances.

Not to mention the guys on there promising girls the world and not delivering. Girls will pass these things along as fact to their friends if they think it makes them look like less of a whore.

Post: #14

Hi I have a call for you.

Who is it?

Dubai.

Dubai who?

Dubai your pussy.

Post: #15

(12-28-2016 04:07 PM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  

(12-28-2016 08:21 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  All it will take is one Sugar Daddy horror story to go viral and the whole thing will loose its "glamour".

You mean all it takes is for someone to hack SA and leak the names, address, credit card details, ip addresses, phone numbers and private messages of the thousands and thousands of prostitutes and married men cheating on their wives and the website is finished.

Until a few years down the line when it all starts again under a new moniker.

As to what comes after it. Well it can't go much lower than paying for a whore.

I'd like for this to happen. While I might be burned, so will many other bitches...and that's what I want.

Post: #16

No real detail, as it was a while back, but I remember reading an article on SA, and the women were all moaning about how they weren't getting anything worth mentioning out of it, and just came across one deluded middle aged man after another, whose wallet couldn't live up to his rhetoric. As alluded to here, I think the winners are in the minority, just like life in general.

Post: #17

I think this whole sugar baby thing is overblown. It certainly has a negative effect on society, because it encourages men at the top to hog one or more women and not actually commit them, meaning more broken non-relationships for a cold cash transaction. Men that would have otherwise dated or committed to these women are left in the cold. Not good for society.

I don't believe that most women are doing this. Most women prefer to be in a relationship with a committed man. They are often sold lies about empowerment through sexual experimentation, but the numbers don't lie when it comes to depression and women with high sexual partner counts.

The vast majority of women prefer having sex with a committed partner. The problem is, many men are unattractive as are many women in terms of either beta supplication in terms of the men, or fatness or attitude in terms of the women. People aren't pairing off as much as they should, but I think the effect of sugar babies is just a side effect of that larger cultural shift, not the root cause.

Post: #18

This is hilarious... Most baby boomers are broke.
There aren't enough of them throwing the pussy economy off.
Step up your game.
This is the best time to get laid since tinder was iPhone only.
You're complaining that crusty old dudes are taking your girls.

Drive on.

Post: #19

has Tag the Sponsor made a dent on the Saudi porta potty trade?

don't underestimate the power of the hamster

Post: #20

As heavy stated above, Don't hate the Playa, hate the game.

Younger girls wanting to hang out with older, successful guys? This game is as old as time. I remember being my 20's looking at guys in their 40's wondering how they were hanging out at a bar with a girl half their age. Now, I'm at the bar hanging out with girls half my age getting that same look from guys in their 20s.

Stay in shape, keep your finances right, and by the time you're in your 40's you'll also be reaping the benefits.

Post: #21

The biggest sugar daddy in the game right now is actually the government

Post: #22

Sign Worthy

Post: #23

JMK, what you say is correct, but if women aren't raised properly and they have sex at earlier ages and more of it, it is FAR easier to justify the behaviors of the tech age, especially if they are also being sold the lie of waiting until older ages to have a family.

Everyone loses, and at an even faster rate, think about it.

Post: #24

Yes, but giving women access to the pill and legal abortion changed both male and female behavior to make promiscuity more accessible with less consequences. More sex with more partners, but less commitment.

Post: #25

I'm far from being a boomer at 33 yrs of age, but a buddy in LA has been getting laid left and right on SA without paying these women shit, and no he isn't rich. So he suggested it and I got on it. In about 2 months I scored with 9 women on there, all in the 18-25 age bracket. No I didn't pay them anything, my MO was always the exact same thing I do with regular dates. It worked really well for me here in NYC. A drink or two, maybe dinner, then back to my place.

Most were 7s, some were 8s.

If she comes out to meet you, there's a pretty solid chance she'll fuck you.

Strangely, a number of these women were upper middle class and just trying it for fun, this one 22 yr old I porked was actually living in a fancy family owned apartment in midtown Manhattan, lol. And if you've ever looked at the real estate market in Manhattan, you know that shit isn't cheap.

That said, I think the word's getting out very quickly and towards the end of my membership I was finding it increasingly difficult to get women to come out to meet me, reason being many had started to demand that I pay them upfront and there's no way I was paying some chic just to come out on a date wth me.

I don't think the golden days of SA will last long, but I don't care anymore as I got off of it now. Just like this forum, there are places where aspiring sugar babies go to strategize and they're getting smarter by the day.