Post: #1

Hug consent in now a real thing. This was from a viral Facebook post. I can't wait for grandma to get sued by little Susy for hug-raping her on Christmas.

Post: #2

^^ Looks like a 4chan troll, but the people liking it are probably serious.

Post: #3

Here is the original Facebook link.

From the original post:

Quote:Katia Hetter taught her daughter an important lesson with a very simple phrase: “I would like you to hug Grandma, but I won't make you do it.” Her then four-year-old daughter was going on what she describes as “a hugging and kissing strike” -- parents might receive a hug, but even close family would not. Hetter felt it provided a good opportunity to teach her daughter “that it's OK to say no to an adult who lays a hand on her -- even a seemingly friendly hand." As she explained, "I figure her body is actually hers, not mine. It doesn't belong to her parents, preschool teacher, dance teacher or soccer coach. While she must treat people with respect, she doesn't have to offer physical affection to please them. And the earlier she learns ownership of herself and responsibility for her body, the better for her."

Hetter’s decision is backed up by many parenting experts. Ursula Wagner from FamilyWorks in Chicago says that forcing physical contact like hugs “sends a message that there are certain situations [when] it's not up to them what they do with their bodies.” That message can have multiple repercussions as children grow: Irene Vanderzand, cofounder of Kidpower Teenpower Fullpower International, says that “forc[ing] children to submit to unwanted affection in order not to offend a relative or hurt a friend's feelings, we teach them that their bodies do not really belong to them because they have to push aside their own feelings about what feels right to them... [this can lead] to children getting sexually abused, teen girls submitting to sexual behavior so 'he'll like me' and kids enduring bullying because everyone is 'having fun.'”

It would be nice if it was a troll job, but sadly, it seems legit.

The page is called "A Mighty Girl" . So far, it's at 92k likes and 175k shares, with many of the top comments (from women, of course) being "all for it!!!!!"

Post: #4

Someone shared an article on Facebook a while back from a "Mommy Blogger," about teaching young children about consent. The article itself isn't completely insane, but check out this comment from a mother:

Quote:I’m struggling with the asking permission part of this. Your example of hair brushing is perfect and relatable for us. My almost four year old daughter has more days than not, that if left up to her, hair goes unbrushed. I promise to be gentle, quick, keep it simple, offer a fancy braid, a special treat, it doesn’t matter and she outright refuses. The days I’ve let her get away with this, the tangles are twice as bad the next, and that much more painful to brush out. I obviously want her to understand consent, and have boundaries to keep others from hurting her, but as her mama I have to take care of her too, and usually she doesn’t agree with me. It’s not just hair either. She won’t go potty enough to the point of giving herself recurrent UTI’s, she’d rather bleed everywhere than wear a band aid, and there are tons of other things that I have to do for her safety, health and wellbeing that are not with her permission. Maybe it’s because she’s still three that we have such struggle, but I worry that me forcing her to sit on the potty when she hasn’t gone in more than six hours is damaging her future power to give consent or not. Any thoughts on how the discipline plays into permission? We do all of the other things you highlight, so maybe I need to wait and this last one will come with age and maturity.

Post: #5

Five years old and already poisoned by such an abusive parent! If I hadn't seen the original thread linked above, I'd have thought this was a troll job for the lolz. Still, given that it is actually real, it is truly sad. Harmless intimacies like hugging a child are now verboten? Fuck you feminists. I will hug my nieces and nephews as much as I want!

One of the most masculine things a man can do is provide comfort to little children. Little children, and especially little girls, need to have positive associations with men from a young age. Having a loving father, uncle or other male figure is very important to development of children.

This is not a crime, but something beautiful, natural, wholesome and masculine, to provide strength when it is needed by a little soul:

Post: #6

Quote:I’m struggling with the asking permission part of this. Your example of hair brushing is perfect and relatable for us. My almost four year old daughter has more days than not, that if left up to her, hair goes unbrushed. I promise to be gentle, quick, keep it simple, offer a fancy braid, a special treat, it doesn’t matter and she outright refuses. The days I’ve let her get away with this, the tangles are twice as bad the next, and that much more painful to brush out. I obviously want her to understand consent, and have boundaries to keep others from hurting her, but as her mama I have to take care of her too, and usually she doesn’t agree with me. It’s not just hair either. She won’t go potty enough to the point of giving herself recurrent UTI’s, she’d rather bleed everywhere than wear a band aid, and there are tons of other things that I have to do for her safety, health and wellbeing that are not with her permission. Maybe it’s because she’s still three that we have such struggle, but I worry that me forcing her to sit on the potty when she hasn’t gone in more than six hours is damaging her future power to give consent or not. Any thoughts on how the discipline plays into permission? We do all of the other things you highlight, so maybe I need to wait and this last one will come with age and maturity.

This is what happens when you brainwash an entire population that you need an army of experts and professionals to spell out every single step of parenting for you, that they know best, and are to be given deference in every situation despite all common sense indicating they're idiots. You have mothers letting their 3 year olds act as if they were autonomous fully functional and developed human beings while they turn their hair into rats nests, and gets UTIs, bleeds out from a cut. All common sense, all motherly instinct (devils thoughts to SJWs and feminists) are driven into the ground and delegitimized so that these ivory tower marxists have complete control over everything while parents just sit at their feet, on their knees, begging for instruction on what to do next. I don't know why Scoundrel removed his last part but just read that quoted text, it is insanity. Insanity, madness, I've found myself saying those words more and more every year for a long time now. For fucks sake, patting someone on the back or shaking their hand without enthusiastic consent doesn't mean I "own" their body.

The nuclear family, long thought to be dead, buried, and wiped out, apparently has some vestigial parts left over that need to be eradicated. And we're seeing the continued war on it's remnants before our eyes with shit like this.

Post: #7

Oh good God almighty. There is no low that these insane SJWs won't stoop to.

I hope and pray that this nonsense doesn't worm its way into the mainstream.

There is nothing harmful about hugging. The mother really should be investigated for child abuse for posting idiotic drivel like this.

Post: #8

Here,fixed!

Post: #9

(12-26-2016 04:34 PM)Serious Sam Wrote:  It would be nice if it was a troll job, but sadly, it seems legit.

This has been going on for a while. I had a psychotherapist friend back in the 80s who worked with prepubescent children in an institutional setting in a liberal state. She and her colleagues were only permitted to hug with hip-to-hip contact (never a frontal hug). And these were kids who desperately needed a hug.

Post: #10

Contemporary white urban leftists:

Believe that a family member hugging a child with affection as an act of goodwill is rape...

...but that actually sexually assaulting a child, especially a child of the same sex as the adult, is an expression of sexual love and exploration.

The absolute schizophrenia of these people is astounding. The more they call for civil war the more I'd love to give them one.

Post: #11

Oh, wonderful.

Let's teach another generation to be cold, uptight, frigid, hating-human-contact freaks.

Just what we need.

Post: #12

whatever sort of propaganda comes out, I'll always snatch up my future nieces and nephews in bear hugs whenever I see them.

Post: #13

(12-26-2016 09:15 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  whatever sort of propaganda comes out, I'll always snatch up my future nieces and nephews in bear hugs whenever I see them.

Yup, and spin them around like a helicopter while you're at it.

1. Makes the kids squeal with glee.
2. Pisses of the "Cuntsent" Crowd.
3. It is fun!

Post: #14

I work in the vicinity of kindergarteners occasionally. If consent needs to be applied to anyone it should be them. My god, they swarm you with hugs without even asking. They'll come up and grab your hand without even requesting you sign a consent letter to be touched. Fuck, they'll just touch you wherever get your attention. I once saw a boy hug a teaching assistant and his head almost touched her breast. It was total predatory behavior and completely inappropriate for a five-year-old future man to impose himself on a defenseless 25-year-old young woman. And have you seen the hand-drawn letters these kids give their teachers? Saying they "love" them and how pretty they are? Sexual harassment.

Post: #15

Growing up (well, even well into adulthood) when my grandmother told me to give someone a hug, I gave that someone a hug. That only came to an end when her mind really deteriorated.

Post: #16

Bringing this to it's logical conclusion:

Babies should be just left alone - after all they are unable to give consent, because they cannot speak - they haven't consented to being fed, clothed, cuddled, their ass cleaned and diapers changed. Don't touch newborn babies and just leave them alone after they have been separated from mother's body, because while they are in her body it's her body and her choice. Afterwards it is a person and must give consent to every action imposed on it by another party!

You are traumatizing them by conceiving them without their written or verbal consent anyway - so just let them die.

Post: #17

These feminist freaks are radioactive send them all to an island far far away from here.

Post: #18

SOCIAL JUSTICE

Post: #19

Its not a thing. Its her stupid mother. We're about to enter the Trump era folks... Leftists doubling down = Twice the laughs for us!!

Post: #20

Does this mean the patented Little Dark hug close is now out of fashion?

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #21

I've been skipping looking at this thread because I assumed it referred to some Title IX campus BS...

The Progressive destruction of the nuclear family continues apace.

Post: #22

In the late 90's/early 2000's things were opposite, even from the lefty perspective. Hugs were the default greeting at parties, at least the ravetastic cuddle puddle places I was frequenting were. I could see that going away with the times, but it's a surprise that they'd try to go after innocent familial hugging, children need that comfort growing up.

I used to think all of this 'attack on the family' hysteria was stupid and paranoid, seems so long ago now. I assumed I knew more than the types of people that ranted on these subjects. I have a greater appreciation for the family that I grew up in now, and regret the naive mentality of my younger self.

I just became an uncle, my niece will have hugs, damnit.

Post: #23

(12-26-2016 08:01 PM)Germanicus Wrote:  Contemporary white urban leftists:

Believe that a family member hugging a child with affection as an act of goodwill is rape...

...but that actually sexually assaulting a child, especially a child of the same sex as the adult, is an expression of sexual love and exploration.

The absolute schizophrenia of these people is astounding. The more they call for civil war the more I'd love to give them one.

When one sees that leftists are intent on destroying families to make people more dependent on the state, one realizes that these two things are not schizo/hypocritical, but actually consistent.

Post: #24

I can't even with this shit.

Don't they know that this is how you fuck up a kid for life?

The surest way to get a little girl on the pole or a little boy in court is to not hug them enough. Is this what they want?

I'm legitimately frightened by these people.

Post: #25

I find myself perplexed about the evolution of these misguided parenting techniques, mainly because these parents are often from my generation (generation x). We certainly didn't grow up this way. Affection from relatives was a normal and healthy part of life. So was a healthy opportunity to go out into the world to make friends, explore and make mistakes. I feel sorry for these kids growing up in this ultra PC world with every facet of their lives micromanaged.