Post: #1

Sorry, bit of a newbie here...

So I've known this girl for around 6 weeks now through tennis club.

We live in the same flats so we arranged to walk to and from tennis practice every week.

The other day I asked her if she'd like to go for a drink sometime this week and she replied saying she was busy and ,another time.

Me: hey, do you fancy going for a drink sometime this week?

girl: hey! this week is a busy week but another time sounds good!!! ill see ya on thursday for tennis anyway??

It's first year of university and I don't really believe that she doesn't have an hour free for a drink.

Shall I say next to this one or ask again in a couple weeks and if same again..NEXT?

Post: #2

No need to apologize for being a newbie. We all had to start somewhere.

Don't make a big deal about it when you see her at tennis.

Maybe she has a lot of studying this week, work, or anything else going on.

If I had to bet, I'd say walking to and from tennis for six weeks without making a move probably put you in the friend zone.

In another week or two, ask her out again. If she gives you a lame excuse you definitely are in the friend zone.

If that turns out to be the case, use her to meet other girls. In college social circle game is huge, so it isn't necessarily a bad thing to keep a few girls around as friends. You'll get more invites to parties and more opportunities to meet her friends.

Post: #3

Did you read the forum rules?

(05-16-2012 07:53 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Do You Need Girl Advice?

The members of this forum believe in a model of abundance. We consider it a waste of time to get needy with one girl who in all likelihood doesn't hold you in a positive light because of the poor game you already used on her. Once you mess up with a girl, it is almost impossible for her to change her opinion of you, no matter how good you eventually may get. In other words, if you have zero game, we don't want to hear your sob story of some girl who only wants to be friends with you. Game is about banging a lot of new girls, not one girl is 100% sure she doesn't want to bang you.

Post: #4

You're already friendzoned and she's already bragging to her friends about being asked out. Move on

Post: #5

Don't chase her, replace her.

Post: #6

Pretty much what the guys said. You're her "boyfriend pillow", just move on. When she wants to go for tennis, just say you're busy. Meet other girls. Let her hamster spin.

Post: #7

Keep going to tennis but acting cold to her, while talking to other girls while in her presence. This is the usual way to turn thing around, so long as you no longer have her in your mind.

But since you are in college, the next pussy should be just around the corner.

Also, as a general rule, do not ask girls to go for a drink. Tell them to go get some with you. You dont need her opinion nor her permission.

Or tell them some variation of 'Im hanging out with my crew at awesome x location, drop by". This is how most college hook ups happen.

Post: #8

I'm going to echo the best advice offered here.

(1) Invite her out again in two weeks. If she is "too busy" again, move on.

(2) Fuck other women.

(3) Become more attractive so that women don't say no in the future.

Post: #9

Am I the only one who read the title of this thread thinking the guy was at a bar asking a girl to buy him a drink, then wondering why he got rejected?

Glad it's not that. But then again if he got his game to the point where he could successfully do that and still get laid, it'd be kinda impressive.

Post: #10

(12-02-2016 05:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  (3) Become more attractive so that women don't say no in the future.

Do you mean that it's mainly all about looks rather than 'game'?

Post: #11

What to do..

- don't take it personally
- forget about inviting her out for a while
- game her when you're with her
- try again when the iron is hot

Check this out man you need to hear this... If you're a newbie, I don't know if you are, but if you are then YOU DO NOT NEXT ANY GIRL YOU GAME. You do not. Never do it. Ever. That's the most stupid thing you can do.

Why?

Because simply you cannot afford it. Simple as that. As a newbie you should take every chance you get to get further and further with every girl you might have a shot. This is how you get better at game FAST. Tnhis is how guys who are really good at this do it. They game every girl they like. They talk to woman in general, random chick, cleaning lady, a girl they get introduced to, shop clerk, whoever. It doesn't matter. It's all about the process itself and lessons you get from it.

That's what abundance model is all about. It's an understanding that there's more fish in the sea so there's no reason to freak out over one girl. This is not an excuse to give up and forget it, this is the reason to you can keep working on her. Get it? It's because of abundance mindset you can keep gaming hard to get girls and stay emotionally detached while trying different angles with each of them.

Here's what you do. You talk to that chick and you want to invite her out. She's not willing. Fine. You do not next her. You take a mental note that she's not ready for whatever reason and you keep talking to her as if nothing happened. You try different things with her and watch her reactions. It doesn't bother you if it goes better or worse because in the meantime you talk to other girls. Over certain period of time you notice how she responds in reaction to what you do. Then you either win [her] or learn from first hand experience. Either way you gain something valuable.

If you next every unwilling girl and focus only on "green lights" you will never learn anything. Which is also fine, many men go for girls who are into them.

Post: #12

(12-02-2016 08:03 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 05:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  (3) Become more attractive so that women don't say no in the future.

Do you mean that it's mainly all about looks rather than 'game'?

There are lots of ways to be (and become more) attractive aside from straight up genetic fortune.

(1) Choosing the right haircut. Dyeing your hair as necessary. Simply styling your hair in a noticeable way (and keeping it regularly maintained) will make you seem cooler and hip than otherwise.

(2) Choosing the right clothes and shoes.

(3) Improving your posture.

(4) Improving the way you talk to people and the stories you tell.

(5) Learning to act with confidence and calmness.


These and others are ways to become more attractive. I'd consider everyone of them an example of game.

Post: #13

(12-01-2016 07:22 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Did you read the forum rules?

(05-16-2012 07:53 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Do You Need Girl Advice?

The members of this forum believe in a model of abundance. We consider it a waste of time to get needy with one girl who in all likelihood doesn't hold you in a positive light because of the poor game you already used on her. Once you mess up with a girl, it is almost impossible for her to change her opinion of you, no matter how good you eventually may get. In other words, if you have zero game, we don't want to hear your sob story of some girl who only wants to be friends with you. Game is about banging a lot of new girls, not one girl is 100% sure she doesn't want to bang you.

Thats fair and unfair Germain. Yea he should have the model of abundance, but sounds like he's just asking for some help on running game. I just asked a texting/game question over my experience recently and got no flack for it. But but he's also right. you've been sweating this girl for 6 weeks and you're just now making a move. Unless you're out there throwing your dick around thats too long--you have no plausible deniability with chica. Like its been said already wait a few weeks and fuck other girls in the mean time.

(12-02-2016 08:03 AM)subterfuge Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 05:41 AM)Suits Wrote:  (3) Become more attractive so that women don't say no in the future.

Do you mean that it's mainly all about looks rather than 'game'?

Looks are apart of attraction. Thats the bait, the "game" part is reeling her in for the lay. Off shore fishing baby. The better the bait the more fish you hook, then its a numbers game and the better skill you have the more fish you convert.