Post: #1

Guys I wanted your thoughts on a boxing only workout- no lifting.
Plan would be 4-5 days per week of boxing, including 2 days dedicated to calisthenics and conditioning. The other days technique, mittwork, bags, and sparring.
I'm 165 lbs 10% bodyfat right now at 5'10

Post: #2

Well if you include callisthenics, it's hardly just boxing. Make sure you do pull-ups to balance the hunchback effect. Strengthen your back and neck with deadlifts.

Edit: saw you don't want to lift. Training the neck and back is difficult without weights.

Post: #3

I've been doing boxing only 5 days a week since mid-June. I'm 5'7 and was 156lb when I started and now hover around 138-142lbs. I've never really measured my body fat but I'm definitely still above 18%, most of that being on my belly. (I used to be 200lbs)

I feel amazing & look forward to training every day. I've recently added push-ups & pull ups to my daily routine. In where the system is to knock out 100 push-ups 15 chin ups, 15 pull ups throughout my day.


So if you can stick with calisthenics twice a week, I think that'd be very beneficial for your overall physique.

How long have you been boxing? What is it that you want to accomplish? Are you trying to eventually compete? Or you just want a fun workout routine?
10% Body Fat? That's very Good

Few threads on boxing already.
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Post: #4

If you want to be a good boxer there's not enough boxing. If you want to be very strong there's not enough resistance training. If you just want to be fit and able to handle yourself a bit, and you enjoy the training, then it's all you need to be in pretty good shape and look nice naked.

Post: #5

Jump rope everyday for 8-10 rounds. That plus your workouts should be plenty. Go follow Ross Enamait for conditioning advice.

Post: #6

I would do 2 days of powerlifting.

Post: #7

(11-13-2016 04:13 PM)churros Wrote:  Well if you include callisthenics, it's hardly just boxing. Make sure you do pull-ups to balance the hunchback effect. Strengthen your back and neck with deadlifts.

Edit: saw you don't want to lift. Training the neck and back is difficult without weights.

This. If you're doing calisthenics, that just means you're limiting the parameters of lifting by weight and motion.

I've had programs with very limited conventional resistance training, but they included lots of wrestling and jiujitsu.

Post: #8

No mention of your own personal goals.
What do you want out of life, what will bring you fulfillment and happiness?
You notice how I keep using the world 'you' ?
It's all about you and what you want to accomplish.
Don't do anything for the approval of anyone else, man or woman.
Strive to accomplish your goals and make yourself happy.
This is the basics of Game, what our unique Red Pill Society, at its core, is all about.

If your looking for general fitness and self defense,
I think you have a decent plan.

What is your diet like?
If you are looking to be the leanest, strongest, healthiest and most optimized version of yourself, eat the following -
Nuts, Fruits, Meats, Seafood, Vegetables
Everything else is just filler your body needs to work hard to crap out or store as body fat.

Post: #9

If you're limiting your lifting to bodyweight stuff, you're selling yourself short physique wise relative to bodybuilders. Sure lots of people and especially girls cannot tell the difference between lean and muscular; as long as they see definition, they're impressed.

Pull-ups may be effective but they are also very hard on your shoulders especially if you have had previous injuries. Doing pulldowns with a machine allows for far more flexible gripping and less strain on the joints from not being forced to work at a strict angle.

As someone who has herniated discs I also find that push-ups hurt my back more than weighted dips.

If boxing is what you care about the most, then all of the above is only slightly relevant.

Post: #10

^
That's interesting. Are pull-ups really that hard on your shoulders? I was wondering if I was doing something wrong, because I keep getting nagging pains in my left shoulder.

Post: #11

(11-16-2016 11:25 AM)churros Wrote:  ^
That's interesting. Are pull-ups really that hard on your shoulders? I was wondering if I was doing something wrong, because I keep getting nagging pains in my left shoulder.

I suppose it's an individual thing. Some say that upright rows are awful for shoulders but they are the most important shoulder exercise I do, although I have taken my time to adjust my grip to the extent where it does not cause discomfort. I have some rotator cuff tears and pull-ups feel awful for me. Just hanging there with my arms and shoulders being forced to carry all my weight with hands in a fixed uncomfortable position feels awkward.

People are emotionally attached to pull-ups because of romantic and sentimental imagery of athletes doing them well before commercial gyms existed hanging off tree branches or whatever; unfortunately that does not mean that they're better for you.
I would just go to the pulldown machine and adjust weight as I see fit; much more simple than carrying around a backbag and filling it with weights. The only advantage I can see would be that it's easier to make subtle increments in weight when using a bag, vest or rope. Pulldown machines often do not allow for adjustments below 10 pounds or more.

Post: #12

Might also adjust my grip. Have a feeling that wide grip pull ups are the toughest on the joints. Reverse and narrow grip might be better.

I also tried weighted pull ups yesterday, which I liked a lot. Much more bang for your buck.