Post: #276

(05-25-2017 07:35 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  Vinny you have my respect for running Instagram game. I would personally rather miss out on a few bangs than deal with mentally retarded, social media obsessed, ADD girls. You have a lot of mental fortitude. But hey I admit you can smash some super hot girls that way and I understand why you do it. To me a girl having Instagram is a red flag, and her using Instagram on a frequent basis is a massive red flag.

If you avoid chicks who have an IG or FB account, then it'll be a hell of a lot more than 'a few bangs' you'll be missing out on...

Post: #277

I never talk about Instagram and most girls I meet never mention it (so I am not sure if they have it or not), so for most girls even if they have it, its not that important to them, which is a situation I can live with.

Most girls these days have Facebook but its a slightly different animal to Instagram. Nevertheless I do not have Facebook and simply do not mention Facebook which works for me most of the time. If a girl mentions Facebook I just tell her I do not have Facebook which is the truth. Also again there is a difference between a normal girl with a few family and friends on her Facebook to an attention whore posting daily Facebook selfies that has 5000 Facebook friends.

Not having any social media feels very liberating and makes you feel like your life has much less pretense. You should give it a try.

Post: #278

(05-25-2017 06:17 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  I never talk about Instagram and most girls I meet never mention it (so I am not sure if they have it or not), so for most girls even if they have it, its not that important to them, which is a situation I can live with.

Most girls these days have Facebook but its a slightly different animal to Instagram. Nevertheless I do not have Facebook and simply do not mention Facebook which works for me most of the time. If a girl mentions Facebook I just tell her I do not have Facebook which is the truth. Also again there is a difference between a normal girl with a few family and friends on her Facebook to an attention whore posting daily Facebook selfies that has 5000 Facebook friends.

Not having any social media feels very liberating and makes you feel like your life has much less pretense. You should give it a try.

I'm sorry but gotta disagree, I'm not a fan of social media either but if you want to maximize your dating potential there is no way you can skip FB/Instagram/VKontakte (for EE) on social media & apps. For example, even if you don't close on a girl due to time constraints you can let her follow you throughout your travels and be "hungry" next time you are in her country. If you just stick to traditional methods of communication such as calls/email then most young girls (<25) will loose interest quickly due to generally high ADD.
Exceptions of course apply in some more conservative countries but they are few and far between.

Post: #279

(05-25-2017 06:17 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  Not having any social media feels very liberating and makes you feel like your life has much less pretense. You should give it a try.

Smashing a hot chick a few hours after she complains how she flunked her algebra exam is certainly more liberating than whatever instagram qualm you have.

You sound like one of those weirdos who hates nightclubs because they make your ears hurt.

Post: #280

I still use Whatsapp and Viber but I am not a fan of actual social media.

Yes I hate nightclubs because I do not drink alcohol, I do not like dancing and yes, the loud music is a pain in the ass!!

I much prefer daygame to nightgame I can do my errands, go for a walk, or a swim (beach game) and game at the same time while enjoying the sunshine. Besides night-game/club game has a higher ratio (compared to daygame) of stupid and ADD afflicted women, not to mention STD ridden sluts.

Post: #281

(05-26-2017 08:50 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  I still use Whatsapp and Viber but I am not a fan of actual social media.

Yes I hate nightclubs because I do not drink alcohol, I do not like dancing and yes, the loud music is a pain in the ass!!

I much prefer daygame to nightgame I can do my errands, go for a walk, or a swim (beach game) and game at the same time while enjoying the sunshine. Besides night-game/club game has a higher ratio (compared to daygame) of stupid and ADD afflicted women, not to mention STD ridden sluts.

That's good for you.

Post: #282

Three weeks of working twelve hours a day have passed.

Amazing reality check. I started to appreciate simple things again and the excitement is back. I am now looking back at my adventures and anticipating new ones to come.

One week of work more and EE chapter of the journey begins. I will start with Baltics and then a bit of Poland, Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.

Anyone in Riga mid June?

Post: #283

Yesterday I arrived to Riga and went out for a walk in the old city center. 10 minutes later I spotted a cute solo chick and went for an approach.

4 weeks spent in company of men only and two weeks of working night shifts without anyone to talk to makes you rusty as fuck. AA was back, my eye contact keeping abilities strongly decreased together with my general social skills.

I still managed to push through and ended up on a long instadate. Russian from Saint Petes, flight attendant, tall, blonde and beautiful. 9 without exaggerating. Met her today again and managed to get her to my place where I endured unbreakeable LMR and could not go further than her tits. She left to airport an hour ago. I was planning to go to St. Petes amd now I have on more strong lead there.

Not a bad result for a first approach in a month, but would be nicer if I got a bang. Cause I need it now.

Lesson learned: AA never goes away completely and comes back after a while, but if you know the steps to overcome it you can push through.

I am back in the game. I am glad I took this break from a vacation. Four week of miserable existence, with not pleasures of life and 12 hours of work every day changed my mental state a lot. I can feel joy again. Sense of freedom, good weather and a nice chick on my hand makes me feel euphoric. Totally worth it never mind the money earned.

Post: #284

I arrived to Tallinn today, loving it already. Had a great daygame session with my new roommate Digital Nomad.

6 approaches in less than an hour all with a nice interactions and IG closes. I ended up with a date, bubble butt cute face blonde chick in a tight short dress.

I could learn a bit of debauchery from DN, he is pretty good at getting himself in post worthy stories. After my date I arrived to his pad just to find three naked girls in jakuzzi. Two were lesbians and another utterly drunk so I declined the invitation to join

Post: #285

(06-18-2017 03:40 PM)Vinny Wrote:  I arrived to Tallinn today, loving it already. Had a great daygame session with my new roommate Digital Nomad.

6 approaches in less than an hour all with a nice interactions and IG closes. I ended up with a date, bubble butt cute face blonde chick in a tight short dress.

I could learn a bit of debauchery from DN, he is pretty good at getting himself in post worthy stories. After my date I arrived to his pad just to find three naked girls in jakuzzi. Two were lesbians and another utterly drunk so I declined the invitation to join

Vinny & DN together ????

Can't wait to hear the stories

Post: #286

First night in Tallinn. I had 4 hours of sleep yesterday and was exhausted after a day of exploring and daygaming. I collapsed and slept for 10 hours. When I left home around 11AM DN was still out.

Another productive day with one instadate and another date few hours later after approach.

Instadate, cute blonde 18yo tennis player. 8 in my books. Ended up making out on the lawn.

Another date - two model looking chicks, approached them telling that they are both pretty cute unlike regularly a hot girl getting an ugly friend. One was blonde another brunette, I told them that they together could satisfy any man with any taste. I left them guessing which one I liked more and took both Instagrams.

DN joined me for a meet up with them later. He said one of the girls was his perfect 10. We had a nice chat. Girls were telling stories about visiting Miami and going on yacht trips, obiously there are some dudes paying for these trips. At least they did not mention Dubai

Another notable approach of the day: British chick of Russian descent, making her way through cobble stoned old town in high heels, got her attention and said thank you. Few second pause. She asked why? I said because she is enduring this suffering for the viewing pleasure of men, she laughed. Good interaction but no close, as she had a boyfriend. She was with tho fugly friends with no high heels.

No 100% close ratio today with one chick saying no to talking to me and another getting scared and running away.

Post: #287

(06-19-2017 02:48 PM)Vinny Wrote:  Another date - two model looking chicks, approached them telling that they are both pretty cute unlike regularly a hot girl getting an ugly friend.

Love this line. This is the kind of shit that can only be pulled with girls that are hot. If they were both 6's or 7's the likelihood of burning the approach because you were "mysoginistic" or some other bullshit would be high.

They're hot and they know it - they probably didn't even skip a beat.

Post: #288

First time posting on RVF but long time RV reader. Quite an inspiration for travelling later in the year by reading the DN and Vinny travel blogs. Either of you got any plans to travel to Australia?

Post: #289

(06-19-2017 10:19 PM)johnwain Wrote:  First time posting on RVF but long time RV reader. Quite an inspiration for travelling later in the year by reading the DN and Vinny travel blogs. Either of you got any plans to travel to Australia?

Dude the least you could do is offer one of them a beer.[img][/img]

Post: #290

The drinks of choice are Goonbags, Bundy & Coke or VB.

Post: #291

(05-25-2017 07:56 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:35 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  To me a girl having Instagram is a red flag

Then I suggest you move to Papua New Guinea or somewhere similar.

Haha I will be starting my job there this week.

Post: #292

(06-20-2017 02:11 AM)DMario Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:56 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 07:35 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  To me a girl having Instagram is a red flag

Then I suggest you move to Papua New Guinea or somewhere similar.

Haha I will be starting my job there this week.

Of all the posts I could imagine, that would be one that would fly over my head. Cambodia was unique too tho. Had a homie get Mozambique only to get his ass kicked off just as he was about to start his second post.

Post: #293

Small city and being cockblocked by daygame skills at night.

Me and Digital Nomad are very different. We share love for travel and foreign pussy, we are both same age and use same hair wax. That is about it. We take two completely different routes to achieve similar goals. He is a nocturnal predator who drinks and goes out 6 nights a week. I am a daylight creature, approaching cute girls when they are least expected to be approached and going out once a month just to remember how much I dislike it.

However this week we decided to go out of the way and learn from each other. So I will be partying a lot more and DN will be daygming a lot more.

On the first day I approached a cute curly hair girl with a nice ass in a shoe shop. Let call her a shoe shop girl. DN followed and approached what looked like her friend although they did not know each other and the girl ended up not speaking any english. I got a short but good interraction and an IG close. It was a situational approch where I pointed her to high heel shoes section and said these shoes would suit her better than flat ones she was looking at.

Last few days she worked in a restaurant 10 hours a day and my only chance of meeting her was actually visiting her at work. So today I ate my breakfast at this place, with her spending every minute of spare time with me. We agreed that I will visit her school graduation tomorrow (girl is 18). I always like to participate at local social gatherings and events like celebrations or weddings.

DN came over by the time I was done with food and we bounced.

Fastforward to his part of daynight. We are at the shot bar and he approaches a two set in a smoking room. Later on we join them at their table. One word after another it turns out the girl that DN is hitting on is a waitress at the same place, she recognises me as a guy her friend told her about who approached her at the shoeshop. She says she was helping my curly girl to work less so she could spend more time with me and the second girl in the set is actually a cook at that restaurant who cooked the breakfast I ate today. Small world. But still a cockblock.

Cook girl leaves. I eject. DN stays with a girl.

Fun facts of the day. Few sets of girls have openly voiced that Estonian guys are pussies. Literally saying a word pussy.

I approached a set of four cute girls while their guys were at the bar buying drinks shortly joined by DN. We spent 5 minutes talking to them while guys waited while we finish without interrupting. Extremely nice or just beta, I am not sure.

Cheers in Estonian sound something like terve sex. I just say sex instead.

Notable approaches of the day: cuban family from Miami, mom dad and two daughters. Opened them saying I heard them talk Spanish and I want to practice they were impressed with my Spanish skills and were super friendly. Youngest daughter was super cute, but ignored my compliments.

Post: #294

Should be a good update coming here in a bit . Sorry I didn't let my date stop the jacuzzi blow job when your innocent 18 year old needed to use the washroom. And for the record she looked good in her underwear in the living room when my girl (her co-worker) was leaving for work this morning

Post: #295

@DN: Spoiler alert

An update is due.
So shoe shop girl had her high school graduation yesterday, DNs girl was attending and we decided to join. Bought some pink roses and went to some god forsaken part of Tallinn. Haven't bought flowers for ages. We arrived to this tiny school and stood in the corridor. Graduates started coming out in pairs one after another. Every 2nd girl was 8+ it could have easily been a beauty pageant. All 18-19, all in beautiful dresses and make up. Just this 3 minutes were worth the visit.

I really like to mix things up and attend some local celebrations weddings are my favorite but a high school graduation was interesting too.

Fast forward to evening. I met my girl in old town and walked her straight to our place. She seemed a very good girl, super innocent looking. So innocent that DN said if I manage to bang her he will buy me a dinner. Guess who gets a free dinner tonight? Flag is captured.

Lesson learned never assume. I remember at some work safety course a teacher told us never ASSUME because this makes and ASS of U and ME. Guess it is applicable to game. Once I was banging the chick she was ecstatic, she had not had sex for a long time and I guess Estonian guys were fooled by her innocence.

Apart from that I am still having a streak of bad luck. Every instadate girl and my best and hottest leads are leaving town. Even an obvious yes girl Finnish tourist I day gamed yesterday left city few hours after I met her. Luck is still a factor.

Post: #296

Guys pass by Belgrade ! Be fun to game at them boat parties!

The introduction of Digital Nomad is just what this thread needed as now Vinnys calculated suave approach is met with DNs wild energy. Following this closely and rooting for you guys !

Post: #297

(06-22-2017 01:10 PM)NapoleonDynamighty Wrote:  Guys pass by Belgrade ! Be fun to game at them boat parties!

The introduction of Digital Nomad is just what this thread needed as now Vinnys calculated suave approach is met with DNs wild energy. Following this closely and rooting for you guys !

Hey amigo. Belgrade is on my list but we'll see maybe I will just stay in Ukraine longer.

So I booked my trip in Kiev, will be there 10 of July till 10 of August. I have a spare bedroom in my place. If anyone is interested in sharing an apartment with me comment here or PM me.

Tallinn is dead this week everyone leaves town to celebrate summer solstice pagan holiday. I guess I chose a wrong time to visit.

I approached a Finnish group of four girls in the old town today and they are joining us for some drinks in DNs friend's place tonight. Lets see if it brings me closer to my Finnish flag plan.

Funny thing happened today, I went out with DNs friend for a daygame coaching session. I approached two Russian speaker girls in a souvenir shop and one of them called me a Pickup Artist, I acted as if I don't know what it means. I guess I will take it as a compliment. Funny that it is the first time ever someone called me out like this. Still it did not hurt the approach or the interaction, but both girls had boyfriends.

Post: #298

As planned some debauchery was experienced yesterday.

Me, DigitalNomad and his two non RVF red pill friends met for a dinner. Then we went for drinks at one of the guys place where I was joined with my shoeshop girl. Few shots later she blew me in the sauna.

The Finnish four-set that we daygamed during the day joined us for pre-drinks. They looked even cuter than during the day with three of them being pretty bangable.

I was trying to distance myself from my girl and try to get my Finnish flag, but she clung to me as if she was drowning. The quiet girl from a shoe shop, scared by being approached turned to be a little devil in disguise.

I pulled all the girls up and we all started dancing it was pretty fun. Once we sat back I pushed my girl to make out with one of the Finnish girls I thought was the cutest, then I made out with both of them one after another. Few more Estonian girls joined us and were looking and it all astonished. At that moment the ratio was 7 girls to 4 guys.

I was aiming for a threesome and my chance was high before an unfortunate event. One of DNs friend took a girl and went to bang her in a sauna. He closed the bathroom. The Finnish girl I was aiming at and another one wanted to pee and they were trying to get in. Knocking the door, even looking for a hairpin to open it. 20 minutes later DNs friend opened the door and they had a loud argument with the Finnish girl. That destroyed the vibe and Finns left shortly.

Me, DN and our Estonian waitresses went to our place and jumped into a Jacuzzi. I was making out with my girl while fingering his and vice versa. We proceeded to bedroom where shortly things got going and we banged both girls in the same bed and then switched. DNs girl was insisting on using a condom and I did but was not feeling it after a raw session. We changed back and went to our bedroom.

The funny part is that DNs girl who looked like a bad girl with all the piercings turned out to be the more conservative and the girl that I saw on a high school graduation who seemed so innocent in her dress and with all the flowers that I almost thought was a virgin turned out to have no limits. She drank the most, partied hardest and was down to anything.

So here is the recap on my week in Estonia.
I normally don't drink. I rarely go out. For the sake of experimenting I decided to drink all week. Actually I am pretty sure this week of drinking is the longest streak I ever had.

I don't think this lifestyle is sustainable if you want to stay fit, productive and healthy, but if you want some crazy things to happen, some drinking has to be involved.

I would say having a sober treesome would be the great achievement. It goes in the list of my goals.

Post: #299

Kiev bedroom offer is off the market, but there is still one week free 10.07-17.07 if anyone is interested.

Post: #300

Vinny - I admit I do hate instagram, all social media and the effects it has had on women everywhere so I'm not going to pretend that I am completely in sync with your style of game. I just hate social media too much - maybe it is hindering me who knows - but can't help it. I can see why you are doing it, however.

This post is because I am more in line with your "daywalking" habits, and I cannot agree more on the following:

Quote:I don't think this lifestyle is sustainable if you want to stay fit, productive and healthy, but if you want some crazy things to happen, some drinking has to be involved.

I was surprised when you and DN linked up, because even before you said anything your styles appeared to be totally different. DN talks about downing 20 shots like it's nothing, and he does this shit all week, yet maintains fitness, alertness, productivity. Doesn't get hangovers when 1 single shot gives me a banging headache the next day, doesn't get jet lag when I get it pretty bad and can take me a week to adjust. DN is like a freak of nature. On the one hand, I am jealous of him. I know he wasn't always a natural but his characteristics are strikingly similar to naturals I knew in the night game scene when I was around 20. Standard triple digit notch count, genuine love of the night/party scene, fantastic target selection for the freakiest sluts, crazy stories about threesomes, foursomes swapping girls, sex in public places, and of course, getting both yourself and the girls absolutely shitfaced. I feel like 95% of the stories just wouldn't be possible without girls getting drunk, they just have too many inhibitions but deep down are horny as hell. I guess that's part of the reason why they get drunk in the first place, so their mind will allow them to have fun. Your sober/relatively sober dates from daygame (and mine) look extremely tame in comparison.

So much of the stuff we are usually taught is just bypassed. When I watched my natural friends and their quick pulls I thought "b-b-but what about Comfort? Doesn't a girl need that?" It soon became apparent that providing the right logistics (jacuzzi and sauna plus "[more!] drinks for afterparty") and following through just based on momentum and how horny girls get when they are drunk is enough. They know what they are doing, they just purposely shut down the part of their brain that makes them have inhibitions so they can enjoy themselves. Part of that is getting to know a guy properly, sufficient comfort before bang.

Hearing these stories, sometimes I feel like the "slower" pace of day game and the fact that doing traditional date based day game alone doesn't lead immediately to as many bangs or as many insane stories makes me feel like I am doing the "wrong" thing in the way I do things. No matter how good you are, luck will always be a major factor. Especially, I feel, in daygame, where girls are not just in one place to party, they have other shit to do, either of you may be leaving town soon -- logistics of daygame are just much worse. DN by contrast can go out and get laid pretty much 1 in every 2 nights he goes out, that's a 50% hit rate. In daygame there are long streaks of bad lucks, flakes, shitty dates, near misses (your girl from St Pt., as an example). The "advantage" is the more pleasant environment (in our opinion) and the higher quality girls, some of whom may have LTR potential, or at least as a medium term part of mLTR.

GG on the flower girl. I thought it was cool you went to her graduation. When I'm in another country and meet a girl in the day like that, and she's cute and pleasant enough, I like to go to local things like that as well. Your point about the illusion of innocence with her dress and flowers etc. at graduation compared to her when she was partying is correct, we cannot always assume. Or rather, the assumptions are never, ever going to be perfect. In general, though, I've found quality in the day to be far higher in looks and especially in behavior and temperament, family values etc. I think your girl was ecstatic for sex and to do all that crazy shit maybe because it's relatively new to her. Girls with more experience tend to be more "masculine" in the way they do sex. I've had a couple non-virgin, relatively inexperienced girls who haven't had sex in a long time, and it might take a bit more time to loosen them up, but they have an almost childlike enjoyment of it, like you see a beaming smile on her face or her squealing with pleasure. And yes, some of them can go crazy after a few drinks.

Maybe I have unrealistic expectations i.e. looking for unicorns, but I still like to think one major reason I do daygame is to meet girls with lower notch counts, or even virgins, who are more conservative and family oriented. Of course girls in the day and night can overlap - obviously those Finnish girls had come to Estonia to party - but I like day game for the girls that I would never otherwise have the opportunity to meet. I wonder, though, if I am deluding myself: there is no way I could go out in the day and pull a girl home 1 in every 2 days as DN does at night; the day game conversion rates are lower. So the reasons in favor of day game must make up for the less frequent success in the day otherwise it wouldn't be worth doing. Now that you have seen DN in action, and compared his approach with yours, and seen how a seemingly innocent girl in the day can turn both your expectations upside down, why do you still choose day game over night? The lack of alcohol is the main one above, already mentioned, but what else keeps you going?