Post: #1

Knowing about the atrocities committed by these evil people in the last hundred years alone always raises the question in my head:

Why hasn't someone off'd one of them yet?

Then I realized that if this ever happened, it would be in the elite's best interest to keep something like a successful assassination completely secret. If the public became aware of an assassination of an elite it would expose them and their deeds when people start asking 'why?'. Not to mention they would be advertising their own vulnerability to attack.

To this day, is their any known record of a Rothschild, Rockefeller, etc., being taken out?

Post: #2

It's very hard to assassinate someone with a security detail. The "lone gunman" assassin is a myth; most are high-level plans with a patsy to pull the trigger.

Post: #3

Part of being a true elite essentially makes you untouchable. They live behind an even higher security sheild than wealth people living in SA. Bulletproof limo's, armed guards escorting their children to private schools with their own security forces, mansions with roaming guard dogs, video cameras and seismic sensors. If high level drug traffickers can afford these measures, the elite can easily afford an even higher level of security.

Their gift is that they make the rest of us so downtrodden and hopeless that the proles are too busy killing each other to do anything to the hidden hand. Also as Roosh pointed out, you would need a professional team with first rate technology and training, and those people are already being paid a higher wage to protect the elites themselves.

A similar situation is American gangbangers. They are almost always killing someone of their own race, nationality, and demographic group instead of the police. They know if they started shooting at cops their lives would be cut short very soon. It is easier to go after soft targets than hard ones, thus the distinction. The elites are very hard targets.

Post: #4

This guy got pretty close

Post: #5

Not close enough, close only counts in horeshoes and hand grenades, as my Grandpa used to say.

Post: #6

Not a hypothetical situation. The answer is no.

Edmond Saffra, a billionare banker, died in Monaco shortly after Putin came to power. His penthouse suite was set on fire and it was pinned on the maid. More credible reports indicate that a Russian commando team was involved.

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/...magazine47

According to Armstrong this was the result of an attempted coup in Russia. Western globalists had been attempting to blackmail Yeltsin regarding a theft to the tune of over $7billion USD, and were attempting to install a stooge (Boris Beretzki) as the Russian president. A deal was cut where if Yeltsin would appoint Putin president then Putin would take care of everything. Notably it was shortly before Yeltsin resigned that Edmond Saffra was killed in a "fire".

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncat...t-bankers/





So yes: it does happen and often as a result of infighting by the elites...which is a non-trivial factor as such infighting is no small part of the reason that an antiglobalist pushback has been possible.


Does it get reported on? Saffra's death made a few gossip rags and a few publications typically read by business high rollers. That's about it.

Post: #7

Correction: realized I wrote "maid" when I meant to write "nurse".

Post: #8

Reminds me of the other billionaire Putin allegedly assassinated with poison. Russia seems to have some exceptions to it and they do not seem to let those kinds escape either.

Post: #9

(09-24-2016 04:43 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Reminds me of the other billionaire Putin allegedly assassinated with poison. Russia seems to have some exceptions to it and they do not seem to let those kinds escape either.

Who was that? You're not thinking of that spy..Litvinenko(?)?

Or is it Berezovsky?

Berezovsky was rich but not a true political elite. After Putin kicked the oligarchs out of Russia, their actual power decreased a lot. He also put Kodorkovsky behind bars for 10 years.

Post: #10

(09-24-2016 04:43 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Reminds me of the other billionaire Putin allegedly assassinated with poison. Russia seems to have some exceptions to it and they do not seem to let those kinds escape either.

It wasnt just poison, it was plunomium (spelling) which is some radioactive/nuclear element.

While the dude was in a hospital in London. . .

that was more like sending a message.

Post: #11

I don't remember the dude's name. CJ is right though about the poison.

Post: #12

"Never let a crisis go to waste."

Even if it caught them off-guard, who's to say they didn't plan on getting rid of X at a later time-frame for their own benefit anyway?

Stalin executed his executioners after-all.

Post: #13

The difficult part is knowing when and where they're going to be.

Trading your life for theirs is not difficult at all. But not many people are simultaneously invested in that issue AND willing to die for it. The movie In The Line Of Fire portrays a very viable means of assassination. I've trained on metal detectors and bag scanners. Getting naughty stuff into a supposedly secure area is not difficult for a motivated person with basic intelligence.

At the end of the day, would it make a difference? The next heir takes the feifdom and the plan ticks on.

Personally I think that if Trump is robbed of the election then most retribution is going to focus on media and government lackeys. That's accievable without suicide and in the end would probably have a greater psychological effect. Who would want an anchor seat at CNN that was vacated by a corpse? Certainly the new guy/gal would be less willing to sell outright lies to the public.

Post: #14

(09-24-2016 08:26 AM)Roosh Wrote:  It's very hard to assassinate someone with a security detail. The "lone gunman" assassin is a myth; most are high-level plans with a patsy to pull the trigger.

In the modern day. Back in the day, like with Oswald, you could just literally set up shop and knock someone down. That's precisely what happened.

I would even include Hinckley Jr in this. Nowadays (post 1990), I agree though.

Post: #15

I like reading about high level assassination incidents.

One of my favorites is the Herrhausen assassination. I won't bore you with the details but let's just say it involves the Bilderberg group, lots of bankers, and disagreeable policies. This guy had an extensive bodyguard and armored car with motorcade detail with front and back car escorts. He knew that various world leaders were extremely pissed at him.

The people who assassinated him rigged an explosive charge with a metal plate projectile trigged by laser trip which went through his bulletproof vehicle door and killed him via shaped charge.


My other favorite is the assassination of Luis Carrero Blanco who was the prime minister of spain. The assassins tunneled underneath his road commute route and planted a shitload of explosives underneath. They detonated it and tossed his car up in the air like a toy which killed him and his bodyguards.

Post: #16

(09-26-2016 10:03 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  My other favorite is the assassination of Luis Carrero Blanco who was the prime minister of spain. The assassins tunneled underneath his road commute route and planted a shitload of explosives underneath. They detonated it and tossed his car up in the air like a toy which killed him and his bodyguards.

That sound exactly like the assassination of Giovanni Falcone, an anti-Mafia judge from Sicily. He pissed off one too many La Cosa Nostra members.

Post: #17

(09-26-2016 11:43 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 10:03 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  My other favorite is the assassination of Luis Carrero Blanco who was the prime minister of spain. The assassins tunneled underneath his road commute route and planted a shitload of explosives underneath. They detonated it and tossed his car up in the air like a toy which killed him and his bodyguards.

That sound exactly like the assassination of Giovanni Falcone, an anti-Mafia judge from Sicily. He pissed off one too many La Cosa Nostra members.

Not only Falcone, but some days later the has important super anti-mafia judge Paolo Borsellino got killed in the same manner by the Cosa Nostra. Though these heroes where not elite, but rather killed by the underworld elite.
A great document on how the mafia/bankers/freemasons, etc sleep together is the Italian 80s serial "La Piovra", by RAI. Even though it is a fictional account, the producers or "shadow" producers of that show had access to serious sources and information.

Post: #18

(09-26-2016 11:43 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 10:03 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  My other favorite is the assassination of Luis Carrero Blanco who was the prime minister of spain. The assassins tunneled underneath his road commute route and planted a shitload of explosives underneath. They detonated it and tossed his car up in the air like a toy which killed him and his bodyguards.

That sound exactly like the assassination of Giovanni Falcone, an anti-Mafia judge from Sicily. He pissed off one too many La Cosa Nostra members.

A few minor differences...the cosa nostra bomb seems like more of an IED. They packed a shit ton of explosives in a hidden section and triggered it which blew everything up in the immediate vicinity. It was a all or nothing demolition.

The assassination of the spanish PM was a bit more complex and calculated. It was an actual tunneling job with enough packed explosive to launch the target up with the explosive impact but with some regard as to not blow everything else up around it. In the case of this assassination they had to minimize or negate civilian casualities for propaganda reasons. It's comical that way back then the actual assassins purposely tried to pass it off as a "natural gas explosion" back in the day as well which is the same bullshit reason the government gives these days for just about every terrorist bomb that goes off.

When you start to dissect these asassination plans you realize how cunning some of these killers really are. I'm sure they could have used some crude bomb or other mass destruction method to kill their target but they chose to use a very refined, complex, and targeted method to kill their guy with zero to minimal collateral type damage. I really doubt it's because they had ~feels it's because that is what the job detail required and they delivered accordingly. There's a certain amount of adherence to attention to detail and skilled craftmanship involved that I do admire.

Post: #19

Dominique Strauss-Kahn was assasinated but it was a character assasination as opposed to a capital one. He went from being named 5th most influential Israeli in the world, the head of the IMF and likey the next French President to follow Sarkozy.

It all ended when he was accused of false rape by an African immigrant with a very checkered past and recent large deposits in her personal bank accounts. One doesn't always need to be assasinated as nowadays character assasination can be accomplished easier with nearly the same ultimate effect.
To remove someone from power that wasn't towing the line of his handlers and superiors.

Post: #20

(09-26-2016 10:03 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  I like reading about high level assassination incidents.

One of my favorites is the Herrhausen assassination. I won't bore you with the details but let's just say it involves the Bilderberg group, lots of bankers, and disagreeable policies. This guy had an extensive bodyguard and armored car with motorcade detail with front and back car escorts. He knew that various world leaders were extremely pissed at him.

The people who assassinated him rigged an explosive charge with a metal plate projectile trigged by laser trip which went through his bulletproof vehicle door and killed him via shaped charge.

The Herrhausen assassination is a joke. There's no way the students-turned-terrorists and amateur bombmakers of the RAF were behind it, the official explanation is ridiculous.
Just look at what happened:

Quote:Herrhausen fell victim to a sophisticated roadside bomb shortly after leaving his home in Bad Homburg on 30 November 1989. He was being chauffeured to work in his armoured Mercedes-Benz, with bodyguards in both a lead vehicle and another following behind.
The bomb had been hidden in a saddle bag on a bicycle next to the road that the assassins knew Herrhausen would be traveling in his three-car convoy. In the bag was a 7 kg bomb that was detonated when Herrhausen's car interrupted a beam of infrared light as it passed the bicycle.
The bomb targeted the most vulnerable area of Herrhausen's car – the door where he was sitting – and required split-second timing to overcome the car's special armour plating. The bomb utilized a Misznay-Schardin mechanism. A copper plate, placed between the explosive and the target, was deformed and projected by the force of the explosion. The detonation resulted in a mass of copper being projected toward the car at a speed of nearly two kilometers per second, effectively penetrating the armoured Mercedes. Herrhausen's legs were severed and he bled to death.

No one has ever been charged with the murder.
The Federal Criminal Police Office (Germany) presented a chief witness Siegfried Nonne who later retracted his statements in which he claimed to have sheltered four terrorists in his home. His half-brother Hugo Föller furthermore declared that no other persons had been at the flat at the time. (Föller died shortly after this statement aged 42: pneumonia) On 1 July 1992 German television broadcast Nonne's explanations of how he was coached and threatened ("You are known to be suicidal. Somebody might lend you a hand") by the Verfassungsschutz, the German internal intelligence agency, to become the main witness. (He used to be an informant for the Verfassungsschutz. He was also released from a psychiatric clinic only four days before his original claims.)

In 2004 the federal prosecutor dropped the charges against the Red Army Faction; the investigation was to continue without naming a suspect. Certain German and US media connected the assassination of Alfred Herrhausen to the Staatssicherheitsdienst (Stasi) of the GDR.

The search of the motive for his killing strikes attention to the fact that Mr. Herrhausen strongly suggested to write off all debts owed by developing countries, a proposal he brought before the World Bank in 1987 as well as to a Bilderberg Meeting in 1988. His suggestions however were met with strong opposition, especially from U.S. bankers who were prepared to battle him on his proposal, and who also objected to internal reforms of the Deutsche Bank which he intended to implement for Germany.

From then on concern for his safety made him wear a bullet-proof vest, his Mercedes car was armor-plated and accompanied by 2 cars staffed with security guards. When the bomb went off and struck his side of the door, none of his security guards stepped out to see to his safety and aid. He died bleeding to death from having the main artery on one of his legs severed.

All of Mr. Herrhausen’s proposals for structural changes to the Deutsche Bank as well as the idea of debt relief to third-world countries were abandoned by his successor Mr. Hilmar Kopper and belittled as “not-to-be-taken-serious” expressions of Herrhausen’s ideas.

Some more facts from the German version:

Herrhausen, despite being the Chairman of the Deutsche Bank, was very concerned with the responsibility banks and their managers have for society and often warned about the growing power of banks and the financial world. He was considered an intellectual, rhetorical and business giant.
One of his most famous quotes:

Quote:Of course we have the power. The question is not whether we have it or not, but how we use it and if we wield it in a responsible way or not.

Another one:

Quote:One also has to want power

(Meaning that if you have power, it's because you desired it in the first place. If you don't care about power, you don't get it. It doesn't just fall into your lap.)

He stated his conviction that debt-relief for third world countries is the only way to help them, saying that "they suffer from continuous insolvency/illiquidity, which in the history of economics has never been solved by increasing the debts even more. It's not only the right thing to do from a moral/ethical point of view, but also better for the creditors in the long run.
After those remarks the chairmen of other large banks accused him of a lack of solidarity, to which he replied "The Deutsche Bank doesn't need extra lessons in solidarity, and in any case solidarity hopefully doesn't mean we should stop using our brains."

His proposal for a restructuring of Deutsche Bank, which he was supposed to present on the day of his assassination, was far ahead of its time and is the standard in today's banking world.

The other board members and chairmen of other large banks hated him. "He was an intellectual snob with the typical arrogance of a genius."

The idea of debt relief for third world countries was ahead of its time as well, and applied many years later.
There exists speculation that he intended to use this concept to strengthen the position of Deutsche Bank at the expense of major US banks. At that time their credits to poor nations were much less secured and their risk exposure much higher than those of Deutsche Bank, which in the event of widescale debt relief could have made the US banks easy pickings for a hostile takeover by Deutsche Bank.

His assassination:

The bomb exploded after the car triggered a laser trap, with the projectile created by the explosion exactly piercing the right backdoor. For example, the driver only suffered light injuries, it was that precise.

The setting up of the laser trap was disguised as road construction work. Nobody knew who authorized it, nobody knew the men working there. They disappeared without a trace.
The site was hard to overlook, but neither police nor the German equivalent of the FBI were suspicious of this suddenly appearing construction site where Herrhausen passed everyday on his commute to work. Herrhausen was officially listed as one of most threatened people in Germany at the time, under police protection and with his house under constant surveillance.
A few days before his assassination the security detail provided to him by the internal intelligence agency, usually the second front car in his motorcade, was withdrawn.

Post: #21

(09-26-2016 02:17 PM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:  Dominique Strauss-Kahn was assasinated but it was a character assasination as opposed to a capital one. He went from being named 5th most influential Israeli in the world, the head of the IMF and likey the next French President to follow Sarkozy.

It all ended when he was accused of false rape by an African immigrant with a very checkered past and recent large deposits in her personal bank accounts. One doesn't always need to be assasinated as nowadays character assasination can be accomplished easier with nearly the same ultimate effect.
To remove someone from power that wasn't towing the line of his handlers and superiors.

I almost forgot about that shit. I was blue pill and beta back then and thought he was guilty at first. Once I saw a picture of the chick, I immediately thought bullshit. The chick was a literal 2/10 maybe even a 1/10 for some guys. Then when I read her statements it read like an Nigerian scam with a little bit more imagination in it.

The uncoordinated vs coordinated support and denouncements from various government officials and Americans looked very suspicious as well. To this day I have no idea who set him up and why. He had a TON of enemies. That much was true, even before the incident. When the amount of motive is more than the alleged crime, you cannot help but think of setup.

Post: #22

(09-26-2016 02:17 PM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:  Dominique Strauss-Kahn was assasinated but it was a character assasination as opposed to a capital one. He went from being named 5th most influential Israeli in the world, the head of the IMF and likey the next French President to follow Sarkozy.

It all ended when he was accused of false rape by an African immigrant with a very checkered past and recent large deposits in her personal bank accounts. One doesn't always need to be assasinated as nowadays character assasination can be accomplished easier with nearly the same ultimate effect.
To remove someone from power that wasn't towing the line of his handlers and superiors.

Picking up on yours, and my previous post, below is an interesting dialog in one episode of "La Piovra" between the Freemason Espinoza, and the incorruptible banker Rasi, just when the last one realizes he felt in disgrace by the elites above.

Rasi's character is said to have been based in Enrico Mattei. Below, taken from the wikipedia page.

"Enrico Mattei (April 29, 1906 – October 27, 1962) was an Italian public administrator. After World War II he was given the task of dismantling the Italian Petroleum Agency Agip, a state enterprise established by the Fascist regime. Instead Mattei enlarged and reorganized it into the National Fuel Trust, Ente Nazionale Idrocarburi (ENI). Under his direction ENI negotiated important oil concessions in the Middle East as well as a significant trade agreement with the Soviet Union which helped break the oligopoly of the 'Seven Sisters' that dominated the mid 20th century oil industry. He also introduced the principle whereby the country that owned exploited oil reserves received 75% of the profits.[1]

Mattei, who became a powerful figure in Italy, was a Christian Democrat, and a member of parliament from 1948 to 1953. Mattei made ENI a powerful company, so much so that Italians called it "the state within the state."[2] He died in a mysterious plane crash in 1962, likely caused by a bomb in the plane.[3] The unsolved death of Mattei has obsessed Italy for years..."

Post: #23

(09-26-2016 09:29 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

(09-24-2016 08:26 AM)Roosh Wrote:  It's very hard to assassinate someone with a security detail. The "lone gunman" assassin is a myth; most are high-level plans with a patsy to pull the trigger.

In the modern day. Back in the day, like with Oswald, you could just literally set up shop and knock someone down. That's precisely what happened.

I would even include Hinckley Jr in this. Nowadays (post 1990), I agree though.

Roger Stone and others who have looked at the Reagan assassination attempt claimed that Hinckley was not the only shooter at the scene. Shades of the Lennon hit and Mark Chapman...

As to Oswald, that was a case of a successful lone gunman assassination. Not JFK, his, by Jack Ruby.

Post: #24

Why would Jack Ruby act as a lone gunman to kill Oswald? Clearly he was on a mission.

Post: #25

(09-25-2016 02:16 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The difficult part is knowing when and where they're going to be.

Trading your life for theirs is not difficult at all. But not many people are simultaneously invested in that issue AND willing to die for it. The movie In The Line Of Fire portrays a very viable means of assassination. I've trained on metal detectors and bag scanners. Getting naughty stuff into a supposedly secure area is not difficult for a motivated person with basic intelligence.

At the end of the day, would it make a difference? The next heir takes the feifdom and the plan ticks on.

Personally I think that if Trump is robbed of the election then most retribution is going to focus on media and government lackeys. That's accievable without suicide and in the end would probably have a greater psychological effect. Who would want an anchor seat at CNN that was vacated by a corpse? Certainly the new guy/gal would be less willing to sell outright lies to the public.

This is correct. I used to help organize security details for people you'd know. It'd be painfully easy to kill them if you didn't care to get away/survive. This is true for almost all but high ranking politicians of certain countries.

Your average schmuck doesn't care to kill Buffett, much less die doing it.