Post: #1

Falsely labelling in left and right terms.
Is the Establishment playing us?

OK there are lots of terms in red pill culture.
But is the Establishment trying to mislead us?
Here's what I mean.

We have an "alt right". But is it really a "right"?
And is the pro homo, pro dyke/anti male bullshit is described as "leftist".
Likewise anyone who is against influx of terrorists and wage deflating migrants or for the rights of males and heterosexuals is called "right wing".

Look how TRump is getting the blue collar vote. Look how UKIP is winning over working class Labour voters in Britain.
Look how Clinton and the British Labour Party are infested with rich silverspooned bellends stamping their feet demanding we accept homoism and zillions of immigrants.

My belief is that the Establishment want to control both "left" and "right". Now red pill beliefs say that the economic system in the West is exploiting white males by using women and immigrants and homosexuals against them.
Likewise globalism is a weapon of the Elite. Traditional "right wing" parties are hated for this. So red pillers even entrepreneurial ones like me, aren't "right wing" in the economic sense.

But most of us heere are repulsed by the SJW nonsense that has infested the left of Western politics. So men get fucked over by the globalist right that exports prosperity to China and imports 3rd worlders to cut Western wages, as much as 50% or so.

But men also get fucked over by the so called "left",that panders to Islamists in the West. The SJW left also heavily promotes homosexualism, transsexualism and other weirdness to kids and therefore taunts males. This means men don't want to vote for the Democrats or Labour either.

The "women's liberation" movements of the early 20th century were never poor, exploited women. They were loudmouthed, upper middle class Establishment women. Likewise today, I don't find many working class feminists. They tend to be aspiring lower middle class or mid/upper middle class.

I don't think its equality. In Britain, so called "feminism" is about upper middle class women taking career opports that would have gone to mid middle class me. And mid middle class women taking careers that would have gone to lower middle class men. And so on. So its not a left-right issue. Its an Establishment v the masses issue.

Likewise immigrants will vote left on economic grounds. Refusing to allow them to wear their burkha crap won't alienate them into voting right wing.
Similar situation with homos, trannies and all the other "pc" trash who attract obscene amounts of policy time and media time.
Again, I think that the left parties are hijacked so they can be discredited.Normal people get repulsed by SJW nonsense. So it means the thing that REALLY matters to the elite is that the political system can't rebel against globalist overlords. Like Hitlary Clinton and her backers at Goldman Sachs+Lockheed Martin etc,

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Lots of commentators say the "left-right" divide is meaningless today. But there is still an economic left and right. Whats happened is that the left is poisoned with some SJW freaks but is almost as right wing economically as the left u could argue. And the non alt right is now globalist and so far right economically that it had to change eg with TRump promising to stem to flows of wealth and jobs overseas. Trump himself says "I was a Democrat until this pc crap got too much". Then you have Clinton promising an imperialist type foreign policy while TRump suggests he wants to hold back. Again, its almost like left and right are changing poles in some ways.

Its a big topic so I could say more. But I'd be interested to see what people think. I hate feminism, over immigration, and perversion being promoted. But I'm not "right wing". Just as Hitlary Clinton isn't left wing because of her (supposed!) love affair with homos and migrants.

Post: #2

You're late to the party, bud. Sleight of hand and rebranding has always been a part of the globalist toolkit.

Post: #3

Yes, ofcourse. But lots of redpillers say "I hate leftists". But I say "working/lower middle class ie left voting males hate migrants, homos, trannies and loud mouthed feminists. More so than many right wing voting males. I get people telling me I'm "right wing", but by my view I'm not.

Post: #4

Indeed, language is always an issue. If you ever come across someone worth talking to (truly have an inquisitive or truth seeking mind) then you define all terms, and explain exactly what is meant by each, and how they interact.

The problem is, you rarely find these people, they have been decreasing in number for a while now especially due to technology and the marked, progressive triumphs (no pun intended) of the elite overlords over their doltish drones.

Post: #5

Divide and Conquer

Post: #6

I really hope Trump presidency puts an end to this left and right dialectic - that would be his greatest achievement.