Post: #1

the super hypergamous, high standard, stuck up bitch, but is actually loyal

VS

the more friendlier, low maintenence, affectionate girl, sleeps with everyone, but doesn't give you any shit for doing the same

(assuming same levels of physical attractiveness, intelligence, etc etc)

Post: #2

Desire depends on intent. Dudes who want to fuck NSA are gonna go for slutty lower-resistance girls. Dudes who want a main girl in their life are going to want one who is loyal.

Post: #3

Your poll is flawed, hypergamous and loyal don't belong in the same sentence. In the context of bitch vs not bitch, a girl is only a bitch to test you or to appear powerful/secure. Put her in her place and she turns into an innocent little puppy dog.

My answer, I'll fuck both of them.

Post: #4

The first is just loyal to you for a while, until she's not.

That's not really loyalty.

Paraphrasing Roosh: "Being in a relationship with a woman is like working for IBM. You're providing value or you're out on your ass."

Both the high standard stuck-up girl and the "friendly nymphoslut" are going to be expecting something (though their needs will differ...maybe the first wants provider dough, while the second just wants to enjoy your conversations, personality, and company.) You could argue that the second girl is in fact more "loyal" than the first; she might be okay with hanging out with you from time to time for years, running errands for you, cooking for you and coming over to your place at the drop of a hat as you like. The price for that "loyalty" is that you accept she's going to hoe around. IBM pays a nice salary and the perks are great, but I don't finally control who the customers are.

But part of accepting red pill is trying to accept that neither is ever going to be "loyal" to you in the way Mommy was.

I think it's okay to struggle with this, but also try to accept that in some sense it's okay that this is the way humans operate. Women aren't necessarily all evil manipulators because of it. The "tautostatement" 'It is what it is' applies here...if men and women's needs coincided 100% all the time you could argue that there'd be zero reason to do anything, or to bother with living at all.

I think you'll be happier for it.

Edit: caught myself putting red pill in "scare quotes", removed them.

Post: #5

Always punch above your weight, being with a woman who deep down you maybe think is too good for you is always a good thing. She'll bring the best out of you, I would be more attracted to the first one for this reason.