Post: #26

A UN Convoy was attacked in Aleppo and the US is now blaming Russia. Here we go. The elites are going full bore ahead for war with Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/s...s-military

Quote:A UN aid convoy delivering food relief to a rebel-held area near Aleppo was targeted in an airstrike, as a week-old ceasefire brokered by Russia and the US collapsed with a new surge of Syrian government bombing.

The US said it blamed Russia for the attack on the convoy, whether or not Russian planes were involved, arguing Moscow was responsible under the ceasefire agreement for reining in Bashar al-Assad’s government forces.

The attack on the convoy, made up of Syrian Red Crescent trucks carrying UN-supplied food, was reported to have killed at least 12 people and destroyed 18 trucks laden with food intended for tens of thousands of people cut off by the war in a rural area west of Aleppo city.

Aid officials said it was hit from the air while unloading food at a warehouse in opposition controlled Urem al-Kubra. Early reports suggested most of the dead were Syrian Red Crescent drivers.

Stephen O’Brien, the UN’s emergency relief coordinator, said that the convoy had been clearly marked and its route had been provided to all parties to the conflict.

“Let me be clear: if this callous attack is found to be a deliberate targeting of humanitarians, it would amount to a war crime,” O’Brien said. “I call for an immediate, impartial and independent investigation into this deadly incident. The perpetrators should know that they will one day be held accountable for violations of international humanitarian and human rights law.”

The US state department spokesman John Kirby said in a statement: “The destination of this convoy was known to the Syrian regime and the Russian federation and yet these aid workers were killed in their attempt to provide relief to the Syrian people.”

Kirby added: “The United States will raise this issue directly with Russia. Given the egregious violation of the cessation of hostilities we will reassess the future prospects for cooperation with Russia.”

A senior US official made it clear that Washington held Russia primarily responsible.

“We don’t know at this point whether it was the Russians or the regime. In either case, the Russians have the responsibility certainly to restrain – refrain from taking such action themselves, but they also have the responsibility to keep the regime from doing it,” the official said.

Meanwhile, bombs and shells rained down on eastern Aleppo, home to 250,000 people cut off in an opposition-controlled area. The truce collapsed as global leaders convened at the UN in New York with the hope of consolidating the ceasefire and working on longer-term peace efforts.

Foreign ministers from around the world in the International Syria Support Group were due to meet early on Tuesday morning before the start of the UN general debate. US officials said that the secretary of state, John Kerry, was trying to contact his Russian counterpart, Sergey Lavrov, to assess whether the ceasefire could be salvaged, but hopes of doing so were fast dimming.

A senior US official said: “At this point the Russians have the burden of demonstrating very quickly their seriousness of purpose because otherwise, as you say, there’ll be nothing to extend and nothing to salvage.”

There was no immediate public comment on Monday night from Russian officials.

Hours before the convoy was struck, Kerry had pointed to the resumption of humanitarian deliveries as a sign that the ceasefire could be starting to bring benefits. But later on Monday, with the ceasefire just short of a week old, the Syrian army issued a statement blaming “terrorist groups” for hundreds of alleged violations and saying it would no longer observe the truce.

The US-Russian ceasefire “was supposed to be a real chance to stop the bloodshed, but the armed terrorist groups flouted this agreement,” the statement said.

However both Kerry and the French foreign minister, Jean-Marc Ayrault, said Russia and its Syrian government allies had been responsible for the most serious violations.

“The reality, according to the information we are getting from the ground, is that violations of the ceasefire are acts of the regime,” Ayrault told reporters at the sidelines of a UN general assembly meeting in New York.

The Syrian army declaration followed the bombing of Syrian army positions around Deir ez-Zour by western coalition forces including the US, Britain, Denmark and Australia. The countries involved have said the strikes were aimed at Islamic State frontline positions and unintentionally hit Syrian troops as they fought to take those positions on Tharda mountain.

Russia has said the strikes killed 62 Syrian soldiers and injured about 100 others, and the Syrian government has described the bombing as “on purpose and planned in advance”.

The collapse of the ceasefire came just as humanitarian convoys had restarted to some of the 18 civilian enclaves cut off by the war, 15 of which are besieged by Syrian government forces and their allies, according to the UN. Aid officials had been optimistic than two convoys of 20 trucks each might finally reach 250,000 besieged in rebel-controlled eastern Aleppo.

Jan Egeland, the secretary general of the Norwegian Refugee Council and the humanitarian advisor to the UN special envoy for Syria, said the Aleppo convoys had been set to depart early on Tuesday morning.

But Egeland told the Guardian: “It hinges on so little now. What I fear we now have is a window of opportunity that we hadn’t before and we’re not able to use that window of opportunity when we have it.”

Post: #27

^^

Quote:French foreign minister, Jean-Marc Ayrault

Meanwhile that same France is supposedly mad at ISIS for the Paris and Nice attacks...

What a clusterfuck, especially for the common person who doesn't understand how these events are connected.

Post: #28

@Traktor:

I follow Leith Fadel also. Just forgot to mention him in that list.

I'm pretty sure he has an account here at the Forum, and I know he has commented at ROK before.

"Michael, we're bigger than US Steel..."

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Post: #29

What I can't figure out is why there are non-Syrian/Russian aircraft in Syria's airspace.

Why are they allowing American jets into their territory.

As for the busted aid convoy, if Assad hit it you can be sure it was because those trucks were full of ground to air missiles.

Post: #30

Russian aircrafts are there because Syrians asked them to be there, as is their sovereign right. Obviously they have full right to shoot down American/European jets, as they have no permission from Syrian authorities to be there, but they are smart enough to know that would ony worsen the situation.

Post: #31

^ In which case this bombing-gone-wrong really has to be seen as desperate bid to push for a retaliation that will start a war.

Putin and Assad are obviously too smart to play that game. Hence their plea to the UN which, despite being a globalist circle-jerk, is still heavily populated by people who are sick to death of heavy handed illegal American military interventions.

Post: #32

Exactly, it is the repeat of the Eastern Ukraine scenario, where they were terrorizing the civilian population hoping for an overt Russian intervention. A lot of pro Russian commentators at the time were asking for the military intervention as well, oblivious to the obvious trap.

Post: #33

(09-20-2016 01:05 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  ^^

Quote:French foreign minister, Jean-Marc Ayrault

Meanwhile that same France is supposedly mad at ISIS for the Paris and Nice attacks...

What a clusterfuck, especially for the common person who doesn't understand how these events are connected.

The average person doesn't know shit and doesn't care, be it French or American.

We often chastize American for being too oblivious to what is happening around the world, but the same can be said of Europeans. They dont know shit that happens outside of their old and dying continent.

I've said it before during the Paris attacks, the average French just "wants things to go back to normal so I can get back to work", thats how it is. Throw in distraction like Pokemon Go and Euro, and they would be ok with their taxes paying for Daesh.

Meanwhile in Soviet Russia, hero cops tell Roosh to "just keep going".

Post: #34

(09-20-2016 01:05 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  ^^

Quote:French foreign minister, Jean-Marc Ayrault

Meanwhile that same France is supposedly mad at ISIS for the Paris and Nice attacks...

What a clusterfuck, especially for the common person who doesn't understand how these events are connected.

Forget about the common person and take a look around here. In a forum full of supposedly "red pill" guys who have woken up and accepted the truth that we live in a matrix. A thread about the latest comical false flag will garner pages of participation from the membership. A thread about one superpower officially accusing the other of being the terrorist .............. barely 30 posts in two days!!!

Yes gentlemen, we are fucked

Post: #35

What a Mess

Post: #36

Quote:A senior US official said: “At this point the Russians have the burden of demonstrating very quickly their seriousness of purpose because otherwise, as you say, there’ll be nothing to extend and nothing to salvage.”

Irony doesn't escape US officials. At least when Russian officials start bullshitting you, you know its almost certainly bullshit but when those on our side do it? Not so sure.

Killing SAA troops and equipment which helps ISIS with evidence on both sides to support the claims? No problem! Blaming Russia, Iran and SAA for bombing an aid convoy with no evidence whatsoever but insist the Russians provide said evidence? Absolutely no irony involved.

For all we know the Israelis could have done it.

Post: #37

(09-20-2016 10:56 AM)FlyBoy Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 01:05 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  ^^

Quote:French foreign minister, Jean-Marc Ayrault

Meanwhile that same France is supposedly mad at ISIS for the Paris and Nice attacks...

What a clusterfuck, especially for the common person who doesn't understand how these events are connected.

Forget about the common person and take a look around here. In a forum full of supposedly "red pill" guys who have woken up and accepted the truth that we live in a matrix. A thread about the latest comical false flag will garner pages of participation from the membership. A thread about one superpower officially accusing the other of being the terrorist .............. barely 30 posts in two days!!!

Yes gentlemen, we are fucked

You think this is the first thread we've talked about this? Try reading around some more before you look even worse.

Post: #38

(09-20-2016 12:06 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 10:56 AM)FlyBoy Wrote:  (low-energy crap)

You think this is the first thread we've talked about this? Try reading around some more before you look even worse.

Doesn't he need more than 250 posts to even be in here?

Post: #39

(09-20-2016 10:56 AM)FlyBoy Wrote:  Forget about the common person and take a look around here. In a forum full of supposedly "red pill" guys who have woken up and accepted the truth that we live in a matrix. A thread about the latest comical false flag will garner pages of participation from the membership. A thread about one superpower officially accusing the other of being the terrorist .............. barely 30 posts in two days!!!

Yes gentlemen, we are fucked

Leave your coat right where it is.