Post: #1

Situation:
1) 21 years old. Born, raised, and living in India (city: Hyderabad). I did my undergrad in Aerospace Engineering from a top tier university in London (graduated in June 2016). In Hyderabad, I have been told me that I am a catch and girls have been talking about me. Preparing for GMAT and CAT exams to get into top b-schools (In India, you can get into top MBA programmes immediately after graduation. Also, will be completely funded by parents irrespective of the doing it in India or the US) to eventually move into Investment Banking (M&A).
2) I'd prefer to stay in India (low cost of living, low taxes, good for business) and take holidays to travel to different countries for culture/girls. Although I am open to live in the US (easy and better to improve game + better for IB. Although, taxes and cost of living are quite high + visa complications)
3) Improving my self-worth through work out, sauna, nutrition, MMA (went from 30% body fat to 23.4% in 5 months), volunteering, reading, learning Russian (also worked and became good at French) and starting 2 businesses.

Problems:
1) Virgin. Never kissed a girl
- It's starting to get to me. The thought just pops into me head randomly during the day and I get depressed. Feels like I wasted my time in the UK. Went to a night club there once, and hated it. So, never did night game. Also, I stay away from alcohol (hate the taste and for fat reduction)
- EE Prostitutes maybe a solution but not now. Weak financial situation and living with parents.
- Day approaches don't work here. Trying to use my friend circle to get girls (BTW, coming from London, I have been told that I am a catch)

2) Had one-itis for a Finnish girl in 2nd year of university. Still can't get her out of my head.
- Went out on a date (coffee) with her. I was and am pretty good at elderly chat before I even read Day Game, so I made her very comfortable and we had a great time. She gave me those kiss-me eyes towards the end, but I couldn't kiss her. Hell, or even touch her (Why? Because she told me she was seeing another French guy and was and low self worth). I knew she was interested even a year from that but couldn't make the move. Also, got to know that she's a skank. Reading articles on this forum, i have realized that all girls are.
Taking help of my childhood friend (she's a girl) to get girls. Had a chance when there were many girls during my friend's married, but was very shy to take any action, although 1 pretty girl's face lit up when she saw me (maybe I was wrong) but I took no action.

3) Feels like I am stuck and I will end up as one of the pathetic Indian men who have their marriages arranged and then grow old being frustrated, neutered, and letting myself go. I don't want my current age (when I am my horniest self to be wasted). Reading Wall Street Playboys and specifically these article help
http://wallstreetplayboys.com/men-age-li...like-milk/ but the problems are still there.
/thread-37819...ing+social
http://gameformarriage.blogspot.in/2011/...axims.html

Would love the help from you guys, to turn this situation around and see where I am lacking in terms of my efforts, through your experienced eyes.

Post: #2

(09-16-2016 01:16 PM)Hardwork Honesty Character Wrote:  - EE Prostitutes maybe a solution but not now. Weak financial situation and living with parents.

Not a good solution. You don't want to lose your virginity to a pro. It will only be gratifying for short-term.

Pick a hobby, find your passion, be the best at it, workout like a motherfucker, build that confidence, read, read, read, take action, approach restlessly and your time will come.

You've been told that you're a catch, you're already halfway there.

Post: #3

(09-16-2016 01:16 PM)Hardwork Honesty Character Wrote:  Situation:
1) 21 years old. Born, raised, and living in India (city: Hyderabad). I did my undergrad in Aerospace Engineering from a top tier university in London (graduated in June 2016). In Hyderabad, I have been told me that I am a catch and girls have been talking about me. Preparing for GMAT and CAT exams to get into top b-schools (In India, you can get into top MBA programmes immediately after graduation. Also, will be completely funded by parents irrespective of the doing it in India or the US) to eventually move into Investment Banking (M&A).
2) I'd prefer to stay in India (low cost of living, low taxes, good for business) and take holidays to travel to different countries for culture/girls. Although I am open to live in the US (easy and better to improve game + better for IB. Although, taxes and cost of living are quite high + visa complications)
3) Improving my self-worth through work out, sauna, nutrition, MMA (went from 30% body fat to 23.4% in 5 months), volunteering, reading, learning Russian (also worked and became good at French) and starting 2 businesses.

Problems:
1) Virgin. Never kissed a girl
- It's starting to get to me. The thought just pops into me head randomly during the day and I get depressed. Feels like I wasted my time in the UK. Went to a night club there once, and hated it. So, never did night game. Also, I stay away from alcohol (hate the taste and for fat reduction)
- EE Prostitutes maybe a solution but not now. Weak financial situation and living with parents.
- Day approaches don't work here. Trying to use my friend circle to get girls (BTW, coming from London, I have been told that I am a catch)

2) Had one-itis for a Finnish girl in 2nd year of university. Still can't get her out of my head.
- Went out on a date (coffee) with her. I was and am pretty good at elderly chat before I even read Day Game, so I made her very comfortable and we had a great time. She gave me those kiss-me eyes towards the end, but I couldn't kiss her. Hell, or even touch her (Why? Because she told me she was seeing another French guy and was and low self worth). I knew she was interested even a year from that but couldn't make the move. Also, got to know that she's a skank. Reading articles on this forum, i have realized that all girls are.
Taking help of my childhood friend (she's a girl) to get girls. Had a chance when there were many girls during my friend's married, but was very shy to take any action, although 1 pretty girl's face lit up when she saw me (maybe I was wrong) but I took no action.

3) Feels like I am stuck and I will end up as one of the pathetic Indian men who have their marriages arranged and then grow old being frustrated, neutered, and letting myself go. I don't want my current age (when I am my horniest self to be wasted). Reading Wall Street Playboys and specifically these article help

/thread-37819...ing+social


Would love the help from you guys, to turn this situation around and see where I am lacking in terms of my efforts, through your experienced eyes.

Your main problem is, or comes from, the fact that you suffer from: "Weak financial situation and living with parents".

Get some money (get a week end job!) to be able to travel (ever heard of the Philippines, for example?), and get rid of you V card. Then everything will feel easier and fall in place, if you keep motivated and working out as you currently do.

Post: #4

Do not, I repeat DO NOT, lose your virginity to a hooker.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!

You are not only salvageable now, but also capable of great things if you put your mind to it.

But I can almost guarantee you will be a socially awkward, hapless 40-year-old in either India or England if you take that dark, dark road of popping your cherry with Katarzyna or Svetlana in some dingy apartment in Islington in London.

In and of itself screwing a hooker is not bad, but for a guy in your position it only will feed and confirm your fears that you need to pay a woman to fornicate with you.

Post: #5

I dont get this kind of advice above...we are men, why so much value in the way to loose virginity? Women should care about that, not men. At the end of the day it is just a bang.

My advice is for you to find your way to the skirts of a lady you feel comfortable with (wich certainly will not be with a ho) wether her being a MILF, a (reasonable) fattie, a (reasonably) hugly chick or whatever, and release that tension. You are certainly missing a lot of bangs for the fact possibly you are not comfortable with women.

Sex is good, sex is natural to the human species, and I recommend sex.

Post: #6

You have to decide that enough is enough. Buy books on game (such as bang or any others there's a plethora of them out there.) go out and get uncomfortable. Do things that scare the shit out of you. I don't like nightclubs either, I approach during the day at coffee shops bookstores etc... Basically, this is going to hurt your ego, your going to be uncomfortable and you won't like it to begin with. But then, then my friend comes the reward. The sex, the confidence, the knowledge that you can do whatever you want. It's an easy choice to make, but it's a difficult one to follow through with. Read books on confidence and PRACTICE them. And always live for yourself first. Have a mission and a purpose, and allow women to flow to you. Approach approach approach.

Post: #7

(09-16-2016 01:56 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I dont get this kind of advice above...we are men, why so much value in the way to loose virginity? Women should care about that, not men. At the end of the day it is just a bang.

But it's not just a bang. If all bangs were "just" bangs, this forum would not exist.

I understand we can't expect OP to snare a supermodel his first time, but shagging a hooker your first time is far worse than dousing your liver in alcohol to strike up the courage to speak to a girl, which every decent game book sternly warns against.

OP may be able to bang a hooker for his first time and then become excellent at game, but it is very doubtful.

He is much better off going to a city in Europe he's not familiar with, accompanied by some friends, and approaching girls. Practicing in that environment is far superior to the hooker alternative.

Post: #8

Should be in newbie forum. Anyway, sounds l;ike your problem is you are pidgeon holing yourself into social isolation "can't daygame" "Don't like going out at night" "relying on friends for social circle"

You need to talk to women. Get yourself some more social experience. You should strive to put yourself in uncomfortable situations. The reason you still have thoughts about that girl you went on a coffee date with is because you haven't been with other women. You simply need more experience. Don't stagnate and let yourself get comfortable in your incelhood.

Post: #9

Nothing wrong with losing virginity to hooker. I lost mine to a hooker. But I also go out and game and traveled afterwards once finances got better.

I am still in uni studying, but I socialise alot and approach when I can between gym/study/work/hobbies.

I felt for me, losing virginity to a hooker took away the mystery and anxiety from sex so I could see sex as just being sex and nothing amazing..and sex with a condom really really sucks.

That said use a condom, don't make my mistake of going raw one to many times.

Also 21 is very young, even 30 is young.

Focus on friends, body and career.

Having sex is very overrated, I find nothing much changes after you have sex, it is merely an urge and takes a hell of alot of time to set things up and date...that's alot of time and effort for pussy, you can spend all that time in many better ways.

Don't get me wrong still hit up women whenever you can...but make it the lowest of priorities.

Better off finding a solid chick with great chemistry and their lifestyle is similar to your lifestyle...preferably one who is feminine and hates feminism.

Post: #10

(09-16-2016 02:04 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  

(09-16-2016 01:56 PM)Rocha Wrote:  I dont get this kind of advice above...we are men, why so much value in the way to loose virginity? Women should care about that, not men. At the end of the day it is just a bang.

But it's not just a bang. If all bangs were "just" bangs, this forum would not exist.

I understand we can't expect OP to snare a supermodel his first time, but shagging a hooker your first time is far worse than dousing your liver in alcohol to strike up the courage to speak to a girl, which every decent game book sternly warns against.

OP may be able to bang a hooker for his first time and then become excellent at game, but it is very doubtful.

He is much better off going to a city in Europe he's not familiar with, accompanied by some friends, and approaching girls. Practicing in that environment is far superior to the hooker alternative.

What I said or meant to is that I think he should get realistic expectations, lower his current standards and not give much of a value on that v-card, as you are doing and putting even more pressure on OP. No p4p condoned in any of my words.

Because at the end of the day....it is just a bang he will probably wont remember after many more, or will just laugh about how awful it was, and how awful he was.

Post: #11

It seems you're on the right path in a couple of areas.
You're working out and fit, and got your priorities straight when it comes to school/work.

First, you're not a loser because you're a virgin at 21. Yes there are guys that bang the best girls before 21, but most reach their top after 21.

I have no idea how popular online dating is in India, but if you will use it mention in your profile that you just came back from London.
Don't ask your childhood friend to get you a girl. If she comes up with some girl that wants to go on a date, fine (do ask for a picture). But don't apear to be needing her help.
Using social circle is probably the right thing. If you are a good catch (high value) you should be able to get some attention. Maybe try to use things like Facebook to appear on the radar of the sisters, cousins, female friends of your friends. It could be as simple as posting on your friend's page (only if they are cool) that you're back in India and wanna meet up for a drink, sports match, event etc. Sometimes women will invite themselves for things because they're interested.

For gaming foreign girls in India
Create an account on Couchsurfing (try to get some reviews from your buddies back in London). Mention you lived in London and put a picture of you in the UK in there as well.
It might be important to come acros as a sort of an international man and that you're not an awkward Indian dude. Not to bash you or others, but a lot of Indian guys have an awkward vibe over them which keeps foreign women away. Meet up with some travelers and show them around a bit, or just for an activity or event.

Day game.
I suggest you start approaching girls at uni, and malls. There are tons of threads about this. And practice makes perfect.

Post: #12

Another India thread? Another virgin thread?

OP, learn to use search and read the rules. India and virginity have been covered extensively.

RVF Rules Threads:

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/thread-13005.html

Post: #13

Im also indian by the way,

Listen whatever you do make sure you do this...

GET THE FUCK OUTTA THAT SHITHOLE COUNTRY.

You will not have a worthwhile sex life staying in that country due to male/female ratio. Also the lack of diversity interms of ethnicity with women, and the conservative culture.

Also, the best thing any Indian guy can do is have friends outside his own race. Which will be really difficult to do in India. You could also look at EE instead of living in a western country. America might not be the best place for you... Its real competitive. You said your learning Russian.. It can be good or bad. But just send me a PM if you need some help. I can share some advice. If you make the right moves your success can be attained.

Post: #14

Thanks for the help guys. I'll keep you updated

Post: #15

Update:
1) Improved money situation. Have already launched a business. In the process of launching a 2nd one. I still live with my parents. It makes financial sense to do this. No expenses (taken care off by parents), can focus on business, my parents are really supportive

2) Still a virgin. Thinking about going on a holiday to Vietnam/Philippines to get laid (most likely won't in 2017 - need to actively manage my young and fragile businesses/empires). There's a girl I'm interested in, she's a 6-6.5. School friend. Recently got back in touch with her. Let's see how i can progress with her. Good learning opportunity

3) Hoping to meet a few RVF members who are in India

4) Have been improving in the looks and strength departments. Although my diet has been a point of concern (fortunately living with parents helps), but have been hitting the gym regularly

5) Will get back into learning Russian (had to take a month off from it) from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52bRYf19...84C119BF4. Still volunteering as a teacher in a local govt. school (very rewarding) and will be a part of the volunteer company's city council

6) The focus is now on 1) academics (GMAT and CAT), 2) health, 3) companies/money, 4) learning Russian (alternate days - 1 hour), 5) Learning how to photoshop

Would appreciate additional comments and steps to improve

Post: #16

Is getting laid in India that hard? Come on, man. You're making me look bad. I think you're just using an excuse to justify your inaction.

The only thing that works in India: Social approach. You have to use your friend circles to meet girls. Then use that girl to meet her friends and so on..Meeting the first few girls will be hard but once you understand the process it gets easy. The most simplest way is to meet some guys who get laid a lot (yes there are) and work your way out from there. Trust me, you're either a guy who drowns in pussy everyday or a guy who never gets any. It's pretty easy to differentiate and find these men if you know what you're looking for.

Once in a while, you get a chance to cold-approach women. Those events are: parties, marriages, festival events Etc. Attend as many events as possible and work out the room before approaching. I've met a really hot girl who works in fashion industry this way. I fucked her only once but used her to get to her friends. Example: have you ever been to any EDM events in hyderabad? Fuck man, some of my loser friends got laid too.

FIND EVENTS TO ATTEND!

Make a lot of friends in rich areas- Banjara hills, jubilee hills etc. Making friends with upper middle class guys or rich guys helps because they take you out to those exclusive parties once in a while.

Please don't be a douchebag/asshole kinda guy. You have to be 'very open' and nice to everyone but at the same time maintain a frame with them. This is the right mindset. Being an asshole will turn on some women but you've got to meet them first, right?

If you really really can't get laid then get an escort in Hyderabad. Slightly costly (10k per hour) but you can find hot ones. They have websites. I don't really recommend it though. Pussy is very easy to get once you navigate through the puzzle and figure out some solutions.

I can come to hyderabad and help you get laid but..fuck off!

Post: #17

For the meanwhile if you can get a gf just do that. Date her for a while build some sexual confidence, and bedroom skills. Also experiment with intimacy, romance, and passion. Do the best under your circumstances.

Post: #18

HHH:

I agree with David Garrett. Drop the idea of losing your virginity to a hooker. You will have to wait for longer but the wait will be worth it.

It is socially unacceptable to do cold approaches in India. That's a major problem. Cold approaches are viewed as harassment (the feminist dream). The concept of Game hardly exists. So you have to rely on social circle. And a social circle is harder to build in India than in, say, America or in most countries in the West.

Tapthatass pretty much nailed it on how you should try to meet women. Go to some events. I believe Tinder is now well-established there so that might help a bit. You could also try Internations.

But your virginity will be lost sooner or later. You actually need to look at the bigger picture and "train" for it.

This involves meeting and dating lots of women (there is no substitute for experience) but you should also make it a point to re and re-read as much of the manosphere as you can. It takes a while to move from blue pill to red pill (I am making the assumption that you are blue pill based on your original post in this thread). And there are many many guys who think they are red pill only to go right back to being blue when they actually start meeting women.

You need to get the red pill in your DNA so that your thirst doesn't blind you. That will take some time. And it will be far more useful to you in the long-run. When you meet the wrong women, you will immediately know, almost by instinct, to avoid her. Avoiding the wrong women is as important as finding the right one.

So spend some time reading guys like Roosh, Jariel, West Indian Archie, Giovonny, Tuthmosis, and so on. That's decades worth of knowledge and experience for you at your fingertips. Trust me, it will pay off in your 30s.






.

Post: #19

Thailand. It's not far from India.

The line between dating and prostitution is blurry there. You can just walk down the street, and girls will approach you, and you'll find yourself dating them with virtually no effort at all. Of course, your higher financial status is what's attracting them, but it's not "pay for play", in the sense that you won't be handing them cash directly. You'll be taking them out to dinner and stuff like that - like a normal girlfriend.

You'll get the experience you need in order to be comfortable around women. You'll get experience touching them, which I sense is your major stumbling block. Once the realm of touching women is no longer alien to you, you'll be much more relaxed when you're around a potential partner.

Post: #20

(01-13-2017 03:38 AM)tapthatass Wrote:  Is getting laid in India that hard? Come on, man. You're making me look bad. I think you're just using an excuse to justify your inaction.

The only thing that works in India: Social approach. You have to use your friend circles to meet girls. Then use that girl to meet her friends and so on..Meeting the first few girls will be hard but once you understand the process it gets easy. The most simplest way is to meet some guys who get laid a lot (yes there are) and work your way out from there. Trust me, you're either a guy who drowns in pussy everyday or a guy who never gets any. It's pretty easy to differentiate and find these men if you know what you're looking for.

Once in a while, you get a chance to cold-approach women. Those events are: parties, marriages, festival events Etc. Attend as many events as possible and work out the room before approaching. I've met a really hot girl who works in fashion industry this way. I fucked her only once but used her to get to her friends. Example: have you ever been to any EDM events in hyderabad? Fuck man, some of my loser friends got laid too.

FIND EVENTS TO ATTEND!

Make a lot of friends in rich areas- Banjara hills, jubilee hills etc. Making friends with upper middle class guys or rich guys helps because they take you out to those exclusive parties once in a while.

Please don't be a douchebag/asshole kinda guy. You have to be 'very open' and nice to everyone but at the same time maintain a frame with them. This is the right mindset. Being an asshole will turn on some women but you've got to meet them first, right?

If you really really can't get laid then get an escort in Hyderabad. Slightly costly (10k per hour) but you can find hot ones. They have websites. I don't really recommend it though. Pussy is very easy to get once you navigate through the puzzle and figure out some solutions.

I can come to hyderabad and help you get laid but..fuck off!

I am not making any excuses. Have an idea with what to do in life, so Money is important for that. Also, I am 1-2 years ahead of my peers, so don't want to give that advantage away

PS - Working on my phimosis right now - Stretching (discovered I had it this week, WTF!)
Overall 100% Agreed. 1) Mindset, 2) Events -> Friend-circle, and 3) Process > Results
Will report back

Thank you so much! No, no you wont have to come anywhere to get me laid. Haha. Would love to meet you one day though
Also read this: /thread-60808...pid1492546 Would love to contribute to this one day (I think I can now, but I don't have the success/result yet)

Post: #21

Another vote against a hooker. I paid for sex once in my life simply because I had been seriously ill for a while and wanted to make sure everything was still functioning OK. Girl was attractive enough and friendly, everything indeed seemed to check out, and that was that. But I still got my first bang the old-fashioned way.

I don't agree that it doesn't matter how you lose it - I still remember the first girl I banged quite well; she wasn't the greatest looker in the world but she liked me and I liked her. It's a pleasant memory that I'm glad to have.

You won't get any such memory from a hooker. You won't learn anything about game. You won't learn anything about sex and you won't be any more experienced when real game eventually works out. It'll be over before you know it and if you want it again you'll have to pay for it again. She'll pretend to like you, it'll seem so easy, and you'll be tempted. That's a dangerous road.

Basically you'll get the ability to say you've had sex and not be lying. So what? I don't think anyone around here is particularly obsessed over whether you have or haven't, at least.

It's honestly not much different than fapping into another person. Might as well just fap and work on other stuff. At least fapping is free.

Quote:Also, got to know that she's a skank. Reading articles on this forum, i have realized that all girls are.

Eh, well, what can you do. First time you get laid with one in exchange for $0 and a couple hours of chat, though, you might find yourself thinking "Hmm, kinda skanky. And bless her little heart for that!"

Post: #22

I live in India with parents. Book or a hotel or use your car when banging chicks. House parties, friends houses also works whenever available.

Girls calling you a catch sounds like they've identified you as a future beta provider. Might wanna do something to change that.

Also why haven't you used tinder?! Works like a bitch for me and I'm not even that good looking, no great pics.

Post: #23

Update:

My grandma passed away in December, and I have had a very difficult time since then. She was the most important person to me, but i feel proud that I was with her during her last days. I was living at her place since December and came back to Hyderabad last month to get my life back on track. Also, right now, my mood is incredible because my aunt gave birth to a baby boy!

Short-term Goals (until Jan 2018) - 1) Get a good GMAT score (700+), 2) Make a good university application (N/A until Oct-Nov), 3) Clear the CFA level 1, and 4) Decrease weight to 75-80 kg

Health
a) My body fat has increased back to 25%. So, I have started a keto + intermittent fasting diet. (I'm 5'7'', and an endomorph)
b) I have been doing Stronglifts 5x5 for the past 3-4 weeks, and the results are showing. (I have had a few people ask me whether I am a fighter)

Money
a) My company took a hit because of me. My mom's brother helped me get it back out of the hole and it's been doing well
b) I have hired programmers (on contract) and am focussed on only sales and management now. Quality Programmers can be found for a very cheap price in India

Studies
a) GMAT preparation took a hit. The past month, I have been gotten back. Will start my mock exams and analysis today. Exam in July. (This is my target program - https://www.spjimr.org/pgdm)
b) Since things were going well, I decided to register for CFA level 1 exam. Exam in December

Hobbies
a) Currently reading 'Ways of the Superior Man' and 'Zig Zeeglar's Secret to Closing the Sale'
b) Stopped learning Russian and forgot everything I had learnt. Will get back to it in Aug (after my GMAT exams)
c) I have also joined RSS (http://www.rss.org), which is a pro-Hindu Nationalist organization, and the things I have learnt about my heritage and history, have actually help me increase my self-belief
d) Thinking of getting back to MMA. However, I think I wil be stretching myself too thin with work, studies, and gym

Post: #24

@Pestilence

Tinder works?! In Hyderabad? I'll give it a shot and let you know

Post: #25

Update:

1) Having shifted to Delhi for work and studies in November, today I managed to get a girl to my room. We didn't have sex (she wanted to wait, as she's a virgin as well), but did almost everything else. I will do my level best to close her by the end of this month, around her birthday.

2) I have become so comfortable with women. I think it's because of self-improvement and continuous intake of knowledge (via books, blogs, and videos). I have actually created an aura of unwavering confidence around me
- agree and amplify, smile and nod. I actually told my professor that I want the AC switched on (when the entire class wanted it off) because "I have a high internal temperature. I'm hot"

Mistakes:
1) She talked about marriage and our future. I got scared as fuck, but I maintained my composure and avoided any response. I think I must have been clear with her, but I didn't want to lose this chance. I texted her that I had a nice time (to avoid any legal issues), to which she responded positively. (Any comments on this?)
PS - She's a 6.5, sweet, smart, and very nice to me (I'm her alpha!). But I am not really looking for a relationship. Just want to get more experience

2) Attracted to another girl from my class, but have been ignoring her for some time (heavy workload and travel). I have the gut feeling that she likes me too. In fact, today she was quite angry at me for no good reason. I remained composed. Later on, read up about this on a few RP websites, and realized that I just need to be a bit more compassionate and understanding with her

3) Other girls that I'm attracted to. Will move in as well.

Knowledge Gained:
1) My skills obviously are not up to the level I want, but I have to keep improving
2) By maintaining frame, not giving a fuck about mistakes, owning my shortcomings (framing them as jokes or by being super cocky), and showing genuine interest in her life, I was able to create a good environment for us to explore and learn about more ourselves
3) 'Illimitable Men' is a fantastic website. All the principles a young man must follow (power, money, game, and relationships etc.) are laid out in a very concise manner. Supplementing this with Wallstreet Playboys, and you've all the raw materials
4) Lay Guide mentioned on roosh's website is all that is needed for game

Thank you everyone who has helped. Your wishes and blessings are and will be cherished