Post: #51

Have you tried Tinder? I spoofed there before and found it relatively easy to line up bangs

Post: #52

Got on tinder very late in the day - my bad .

Good news :

Friday night is like a different city , people everywhere , places busy etc.
Street opens work well , had several good chats on the way to the bars . Made it too villi waino , cool bar / club near the station a few roads over.
Busy - packed with dudes but a lot of 7-9's girls there's dressed up super nice .
Drinks not too expensive .
Easy to chat to girls .. Standard rules
Of guys standing around doing nothing and girls doing the same . Opening is super easy , ran game on several sets / solos but still couldn't quite get the hook / venue bounce . Foreigner status is an easy in but moving on from there still seems to involve tight game I.e no 'let's fuck at mine ' style.
Still , not complaining . It's good to be practically the only dude in the place who's actually approaching these hot chicks .
I have noticed that once you open a set or a girl the orbiters start closing in and trying to jump in on the convo . It's mainly harmsless so easy to block them out etc.
Got very close to the SNL but seems
There's a certain demographic of girls
That come in to the city to drink but then have to 'catch buses' back to neighbouring towns ... Believe me I tried every trick ...

Anyway , weekdays is a waste of time . Friday at least is a completely different beast and if nothing else it's refreshing to be in bars where you can easily talk to hot 7-9's without too much drama or effort . Getting the bang seems to need that extra push .. At least for me and from that particular venue .
Foreigner card works to a point but you really have to keep hammering away at the chick .

Feeling a lot better about Helsinki
Flying home Sunday so will tmrw night is the last chance saloon for me . Got one pipeline that may come through but regardless
I'll be out .. Might even go back to the same bar as layout was good and the talent was high .

In fact there were some absolute stunners in there ..I digress .

Time to sleep

Post: #53

Been drinking every night since Tuesday - not entirely sure how my body is still able to walk let alone talk but we'll worry about that next week . No pain no gain etc.

Post: #54

(09-09-2016 09:18 PM)Rod Wrote:  Been drinking every night since Tuesday - not entirely sure how my body is still able to walk let alone talk but we'll worry about that next week . No pain no gain etc.

Been following your reports.

I would quit gaming during the day, workout a little, do a sauna, get an additional one hour of sleep during afternoon, drink a lot of tea and water, a nice and strong dinner meal, and then be ready to go all-in with full strength to get the flag on the last Saturday night.

Post: #55

Rocha - walking around helps me feel more alive at least , it's not too bad I sleep in and snooze in the afternoon . eating pretty healthy it's just a week of late nights adds up .

Post: #56

Rocha - walking around helps me feel more alive at least , it's not too bad I sleep in and snooze in the afternoon . eating pretty healthy it's just a week of late nights adds up .

Post: #57

Good luck, Rod, tonight. You really went the extra mile and deserve the Finnish flag.

Post: #58

@apolis

Thanks dude . I've pretty much wasted a tonne off money and energy on weeknights when the talent on Friday was of the charts . Take that as a warning if anyone is thinking of a week visit .

Need to get the close / bang ..they just aren't being quite slutty enough at the moment

Post: #59

Saturday night :

Less busy than Friday but till decent .

Went to Aussie club - cool place , good layout , decent ratio , hit the bar and mingled around .

Pulled a 6.5 chick that was divorced (31) but genuinely pleasant early in the night , gambled on finding something hotter ..fail.

Had a good chat with a really nice solid 8 who wasn't drunk but then dropped the boyfriend bomb an hour in.
Tried last call game couldn't get traction .

Wandered the streets and tried that , still no joy ,
Opened a few sets with genuine nice guy / being polite game and to be honest just got attitude , the highlight being some student girl (19) telling me my shoes are shit ( Hugo boss triainers ) and her 9o's addidas pumps are
Cool , also started being racist about people
From literally different parts of the city .

All in all I failed - I tried all angles , nice fuy game, foreigner card , direct / indirect and didn't get the bang . Right now I'm
Feeling quite bitter to be honest as the buzz on here hasn't translated for me at least .

I have had some decent chats / run game on nice looking girls which is good in itself for practice but the bang has eluded me .

If you guys are reading this from the states what I say with a pinch of salt , maybe 'California' game will help but personally i
Get the feeling that being English and the fact that we've voted out of eu has made us outsiders and not in a good way .

I'm genuinely gutted . 6 nights out nothing apart from a kiss , a flake and some nice conversations .

If I had put this much effort in back home I could have banged several times I'm sure but that's life . Maybe my look is off or my game
Sucks but I think i did fine with a niché of girls that were a bit more open and chill ..but had boyfriends .

Anyway , sorry to disappoint , I've done a shit
load of cash, nearly killed myself with lack of sleep / beer and failed .

My advice would be come here at a weekend , run nice guy / bar game and just take your chance . Opening is easy but getting then SNL seems to be just out of reach .

An American i was talking to in aussi club confirmed this and he's been here 4-5 times
.

Sounds like maybe the Helsinki ship has
Sailed , I did for me anyway .

If anyone wants Intel feel free to tap me up and I'll tell you what I know but right know it's a case of blue balls and looking forward to getting back home to carry on with my Hungarian 8 .

Peace

Post: #60

Read your posts, too bad you didn't get the lay, but good effort. My opinion is that Scandi game is a lot about logistics, you need to know where the late night spots are and particularly those known as hookup spots. Quality is not consistent at those places, but with some - calibrated - game there's almost always a good chance.

Post: #61

Nomadbra

I agree , believe me I tried . The closest place for that is Aussie club where I've just been .

i have failed but I can tell you guys a few facts that I've heard over and over again from guys and girls here which may or may not help ..

1. Guys and girls do not mix until 3 am , then it's amateur hour until 4

2. The nice , chatty , Chill girls tend to have boyfriends, one I spoke to was 21 , lovely girl and telling me about how she thinks men should be men etc. Very traditional etc. So they are out there

3. Hook ups happen through social circle / tinder . Girls told me that

4. When drunk some chicks enjoy speaking English and will entertain you for a while...if you can find some sort of game to bang them during this phase..let me know
5. Dudes are beta / non entities

6. Older chicks seem more game .. I complimented a 31 year old and she said she's
NEVER been told that .. I believe her

Post: #62

@Rod; ''Get the feeling that being English and the fact that we've voted out of eu has made us outsiders and not in a good way.''

I remember when I told that 22 y.o Finnish 8.5, that my ex was from Eastern Europe, she said that Finns think Eastern Europeans are 'cheap', so I don't think your problem was being English. Then, she started criticizing her 26 year old sister that was immature for listening Metal music. She also complained about Nokia's fall. Weird stuff really. I have never witnessed such high levels of political correctness from a national perspective.

Post: #63

@apolis

Sounds like she wasn't politically correct at all if she was negging EE and music etc.?

I DEFINITELY got attitude off the back of it on a few occasions .

Some fat 3.0 hipster chick even giving me
Shit / sarcasm IN ENGLISH then telling me how cool she is for knowing that etc.

Anyway .. If I return I'll do it for a weekend only , try pipelining more as you said and stick to an older (late 20s) crowd in nice bars like on Friday .

Post: #64

This is one chick that was nice but got logistically cockblocked by ..

Post: #65

Good effort. I had a similar experience in Finland. Went out every night for a week and got nothing good. I met some foreign guys who claim to do well, but they live there and have built social circles, and know all the right spots. It's a cliquey scene and girls tend to arrive and leave in groups, so your game needs to be quite good. Opening is easy and the girls are polite but I found it difficult to get much further. I wouldn't recommend beginners going there. I also had terrible results on Tinder, among the worst of any country I've been to.

Post: #66

Rod's report saved me money and time. Thank you, mate. I really don't know why I wanted to go to Helsinki.
Maybe cos that Finnish ass in London was so damn good. But if you don't have access, fuck it.

@Rod, did you hit on 8's and 9's only or try lower at the end of the day?

Post: #67

@apolis

Cheers mate . Take what you want from my experience , I've just been honest and said what I've seen .

It's probably done more harm than good seein so much hot ass tail around but not having a formulae for the bang .

That girl in the picture is messaging me etc. And is sound ... She's just moved back to Finland from living abroad for years ...so maybe that says something . Ps she's defo not a fatty .. Just has massivé Cans lol

Post: #68

@gas

THANK FUCK FOR THAT ! Sorry but you've made my week by saying that ha ha

Post: #69

@apolis

I hit 7+

Can't motivate myself to genuinely interact with 5 and below when there's so much hot tail
Out here. Not being arogant it's just
How it is .
Cute 7,5 / 8 are everywhere on weekends so not point dumpster diving really

Post: #70

Sorry to hear you didn't close Rod, it sounds like Helsinki mightn't be great for solo game. The positive reports I've heard tend to be from guys who went with a group, who could just enjoy drinking with their mates all night and then sloppily hook-up at closing time, Finnish style.

At least you put yourself out there and saw a new city though, they're both always positive experiences.

Post: #71

Seems similar to many cities in the essence that nothing is going on during the week..

Great post though! I enjoyed this one even though you didn't achieve your goals.

Post: #72

Yes, I rolled solo nearly every night. Slightly better results on the nights I had a friend with me. Would be a better place to go with a group of good wings, can break those groups down far easier.

Post: #73

Thanks guys. Having a wing makes sense like you say . Anyway , back home in uk now .. Instant hotness drop off ..depression setting in already .

I think they genuinely don't get the 'pick up ' culture / vibe .

Confusing tho because so many chicks said they don't Finnish like men because of the shyness / being boring ..so what's the answer?!? Who knows .

Post: #74

Few more pointers before I forget -

1. A Few local people said in the north there's a different vibe and people are more open .. Might be worth rolling into one of the bigger cities further up and running game

2. Don't press the ' you guys don't talk much ' too hard , had a few chicks get a bit shirty and starting all the ' judging people ' nonsense .. Even tho it's a fact .

3. Dudes here dress well on a Friday but don't seem to have the imagination to step outside the fitted navy suit + white shirt look so if you're going to rock baller game maybe try a darker combo or something a bit different . There were bars full of well dressed but identical clones .

4. Smoking is everywhere , cigarette game works for banter

5. You'll find some hotter chicks have stuff to do on Saturday's and hold back on getting too pissed and fuck Up your logistics so they can get back home
To visit family or study or whatever . They take it quite seriously it seems .

Post: #75

(09-11-2016 07:34 AM)Rod Wrote:  @apolis

I hit 7+

Can't motivate myself to genuinely interact with 5 and below when there's so much hot tail
Out here. Not being arogant it's just
How it is .
Cute 7,5 / 8 are everywhere on weekends so not point dumpster diving really

Good report, but you may have self-defeated yourself if you just wanted the bang by being too picky. Did you pass up a lot of good opportunities? Also, its so subjective which girls are 7's or 5's.
Some guys like big breasts while other guys are more into a pretty face.
If you were just going after 7-8 then they might already have boyfriends or be too conceited to have a ONS with a vacationer. They just might be getting so much attention from men that its not just enough to be a Westerner - and they require more time and effort building comfort and trust.

So, I'm doubting how accurate and difficult Helsinki is when you may have passed up sure things? Can you talk a little bit more about Helsinki girls that you may have rejected but they were average-looking?

I'm just wondering if an average-looking guy could get ONS in Helsinki by going after average-looking girls?