Post: #1

Firstly, I just want to say how scarily effective the information on this website actually is. I don't post as much as I lurk but I really wanted to ask you guys about this. There generally tends to be two types of girls that freak me out or pissese off.

The type that freaks me out are the girls that legitimately make eye contact from the instant the escalation stage starts all the way until she starts grilling you with questions after the sex. These girls give a total "I own you" feeling after having sex. I do not have any clue as to why it seems as if they can look into people s souls with that stare. All of them become super possessive after the sex and now I don't even bother with these starers. You always get clingy questions such as:

"What are you thinking about right now?"
"When are you going to see me again?"
"Did you like that?"

What the hell? Of course I liked it did you not literally just see me blow my load a millisecond ago? Why ask? Eye contact is great for establishing a connection but this connection feels like a one-sided hyper possessive type. I really had to work on my "aloof, dgaf demeanour" for them to get the hint and back off. However, still interested in the psychological reason for this death stare sex ritual some girls love doing.

Now on the contrary the type that pisses me off is the type that makes zero eye contact unless you grab their head and turn it towards you. These girls usually have had so much penis in their past they don't care about establishing any kind of connection. Diplomacy is for politicians, not sluts. They avoid eye contact in a almost defiant way.

Thing is, when you force eye contact with them, and hold it, (so I have literally just became the possessive in this case) they usually become more docile and feminine.

So I've developed my own uncomfortable (by my standards) ways of dealing with these two types of girls butam still curious at am intellectual level as to the reasoning for their behaviour. I've been trying to ignore this problem (only less than half of girls I have been with do it) but it still bothers me from time to time. I'm not sure if anyone pays attention to this kind of stuff but it's worth a shot.

Thanks rvf for any input.

Post: #2

Windows to the soul.

A pre bang stare down can create "love"

Here's an article on the subject
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...and others) that explores whether intimacy between two strangers can be accelerated by having them ask each other a specific series of personal questions. The 36 questions in the study are broken up into three sets, with each set intended to be more probing than the previous one.

The idea is that mutual vulnerability fosters closeness. To quote the study’s authors, “One key pattern associated with the development of a close relationship among peers is sustained, escalating, reciprocal, personal self-disclosure.” Allowing oneself to be vulnerable with another person can be exceedingly difficult, so this exercise forces the issue.

The final task Ms. Catron and her friend try — staring into each other’s eyes for four minutes — is less well documented, with the suggested duration ranging from two minutes to four. But Ms. Catron was unequivocal in her recommendation. “Two minutes is just enough to be terrified,” she told me. “Four really goes somewhere.”
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So post bang, chicks can feel vulnerable, so they want to be reassured that they made a good decision. It's typical behavior, that and the clinginess.

If she's not trying to bond, it could mean all sorts of things. A weakness in new players is assuming the worst in a chick because they read it online somewhere, or it fits their pre existing world view.

You generally attempt to prevent the clinginess by framing the sex as empowering, and giving her the option of thinking of herself as a highly sexual being. But you had to lay groundwork from the pull and throughout the date in order for that to be a possibility.

You're basically not framing yourselves as lovers, but you come off as "potential." The better you get at some aspects of the game, the harder it is to not be "the one" in her eyes.

In any event, there's a fine line you have to walk. She's craving intimacy, even if she's rejecting you post bang, and you need to handle ALL girls so that you don't end up with a mattress girl situation.

WIA

Post: #3

You have your dick inside her, and you complain she seeks intimacy through eye contact or questions?

Are you that disconnected from your humanity and understanding of women?

Post: #4

(08-02-2016 11:23 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Are you that disconnected from your humanity and understanding of women?

...well yes actually

thanks for the informative post. really really helpful

Post: #5

(08-03-2016 10:34 AM)d-quik Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 11:23 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Are you that disconnected from your humanity and understanding of women?

...well yes actually

thanks for the informative post. really really helpful

Sorry. I suggest prostitutes. They won't look lovingly into your eyes or ask you questions if you tell them to shut up. You can use their holes and leave immediately.

Helpful?

Post: #6

I've come across a few one nighters/short fling girls who do the deep stare long eye contact thing during sex, especially during missionary. I like it. It's hot.

Not sure why you're so angered by girls doing girly things during and after sex.

Post: #7

When a girl stares at me too long during sex I view that as a sign of animal aggression and immediately do a chokeslam maneuever and then revert into a piledriver fuck position to gain alpha dominance.

Post: #8

The only reason these things are "problems" is precisely because of what you said you're seeking more of- Trying to further intellectualize ordinary behavior. Since you have already done this, you see threats at every turn and become irritated and unsure from ordinary actions of girls.

Instead of just nodding your head to her benign questions and then going out to breakfast smiling, you're stewing inside wondering if she's trying to possess you and you're angry because she asked "did you like that". Do you recognize this is not healthy?

You don't need further analyzing of this stuff, you need less, to get out of your head and away from theory for a while. If you don't, you're in danger of becoming further disconnected from normal, good human interaction and enjoyment of female company.

Too often in our part of the internet guys become needlessly fearful of not coming out on top in every small and meaningless interaction with a girl, wondering what she meant by things like "what are you thinking?" , and in the end they often lose the totality because of this obsession.