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(03-27-2017 08:26 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Another blog update -- explains why I moved to Vietnam. This one's a longer read than most of my blog posts.

http://www.masculinexpat.com/leaving-thailand/

Vietnamese coffee is almost a vice of mine. Picked it up back home in our city due to my circle of Vietnamese buddies.

I got a bag of the instant kind I found in a Chinese store and drink some anytime I need a big boost, otherwise I try to avoid caffeine. When I saw your traditional press with the fresh milk at the bottom I drooled a little bit.

That was a good read. More for me to consider if I need to relocate for a bit. I had not thought about Vietnam but that's not a bad idea to consider.

I wonder why Thailand refused to give you another visa though. Seems strange. I read recently that the big dip in Chinese tourists have them concerned and they did not make much tourism money this past season.

Either way would be good to go visit there sometime and eat some good Vietnamese food. Even my wife and her mom whine every now and then about how we cannot eat Vietnamese food now, like we were doing back home, lol.

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(03-27-2017 08:26 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Another blog update -- explains why I moved to Vietnam. This one's a longer read than most of my blog posts.

http://www.masculinexpat.com/leaving-thailand/

Great post. When you refer to a different sense of humor. That might work for some and not for others. What do you mean?

Is it sarcasm? Playful banter? Witty banter? And they get offended?
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FYI -- my masculinexpat twitter account has been locked for whatever reason and I am trying to unlock it with a new phone verification (can't use my old Thai phone number). Twitter twats have been trigger happy with security shit these days...

So if you use twitter to follow my blog, you have a few other options:

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Will let you know once I unlock my twitter. Hopefully soon.

(03-27-2017 11:44 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I wonder why Thailand refused to give you another visa though. Seems strange. I read recently that the big dip in Chinese tourists have them concerned and they did not make much tourism money this past season.

I have no idea. It could have been any reason.

I have my suspicions that they checked my onward ticket and saw that it was a rented ticket from flyonward.com, that it had expired after a 24-48 hour period and decided not to issue a new visa.

Or it was all about money -- they announced last December they would issue single entry tourist visas for free between then and the end of February. But since they were losing money, this embassy might have decided to just not issue visas for free anymore.

Some of the BKK veterans seem to think it was just someone being in a bad mood or power tripping. But I'm not convinced it was only that.

(03-27-2017 11:46 AM)stpete Wrote:  Great post. When you refer to a different sense of humor. That might work for some and not for others. What do you mean?

Is it sarcasm? Playful banter? Witty banter? And they get offended?

I'm not sure how to explain it. There are a lot of nuances that get lost in translation. But for example, when they ask me if I'm seeing other Thai girls, and I jokingly agree and amplify, they get upset and leave (or block me online). It's like they want me to say "no I'm absolutely not seeing anyone else, I'm 100% single and lonely and you're the only girl for me" in a dead serious tone Rolleyes

Filipinas would playfully hit me and say "you're such a player" and Indos would giggle and say "well then I'll come see you every day so you won't have time for other girls" Wink

There are always exceptions. Probably just got a wounded up batch of Thais or I just happened to be on a bad run. I did meet a few Thais with better English who actually "gets" me. They tend to be older than 25 though.
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Does anyone have their own place which they put on Airbnb. When its rented they travel when it's not they live in it?

Seems like a decent idea if you can work from anywhere. Basically guaranteeing your place will be used all the time, either by you or clients.
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(03-27-2017 09:09 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  I'm not sure how to explain it. There are a lot of nuances that get lost in translation. But for example, when they ask me if I'm seeing other Thai girls, and I jokingly agree and amplify, they get upset and leave (or block me online). It's like they want me to say "no I'm absolutely not seeing anyone else, I'm 100% single and lonely and you're the only girl for me" in a dead serious tone Rolleyes

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An aussie girl I fucked left me a hicky. All the hookers that ask you to take them back on a night out, took off their offer and said me "no good! No good!" after seeing the hicky. I'm wondering if they don't want to have problems with the girl that is already showing her "territory" with the hicky or some BS like this ?
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(03-28-2017 03:48 PM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  Does anyone have their own place which they put on Airbnb. When its rented they travel when it's not they live in it?

Seems like a decent idea if you can work from anywhere. Basically guaranteeing your place will be used all the time, either by you or clients.

Good writeup on this^^:

http://gizmodo.com/i-bought-an-apartment...1458666661

The comments are very interesting.

It can be done, but it's not as easy as "1,2,3" and more and more cities and states have caught on and are demanding their cut.

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(03-27-2017 09:09 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  FYI -- my masculinexpat twitter account has been locked for whatever reason and I am trying to unlock it with a new phone verification (can't use my old Thai phone number). Twitter twats have been trigger happy with security shit these days...

So if you use twitter to follow my blog, you have a few other options:

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- sign up by email (you get a free expatriation checklist)
- add it to your RSS feed

Will let you know once I unlock my twitter. Hopefully soon.

(03-27-2017 11:44 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I wonder why Thailand refused to give you another visa though. Seems strange. I read recently that the big dip in Chinese tourists have them concerned and they did not make much tourism money this past season.

I have no idea. It could have been any reason.

I have my suspicions that they checked my onward ticket and saw that it was a rented ticket from flyonward.com, that it had expired after a 24-48 hour period and decided not to issue a new visa.

Or it was all about money -- they announced last December they would issue single entry tourist visas for free between then and the end of February. But since they were losing money, this embassy might have decided to just not issue visas for free anymore.

Some of the BKK veterans seem to think it was just someone being in a bad mood or power tripping. But I'm not convinced it was only that.

(03-27-2017 11:46 AM)stpete Wrote:  Great post. When you refer to a different sense of humor. That might work for some and not for others. What do you mean?

Is it sarcasm? Playful banter? Witty banter? And they get offended?


I'm not sure how to explain it. There are a lot of nuances that get lost in translation. But for example, when they ask me if I'm seeing other Thai girls, and I jokingly agree and amplify, they get upset and leave (or block me online). It's like they want me to say "no I'm absolutely not seeing anyone else, I'm 100% single and lonely and you're the only girl for me" in a dead serious tone Rolleyes

Filipinas would playfully hit me and say "you're such a player" and Indos would giggle and say "well then I'll come see you every day so you won't have time for other girls" Wink

There are always exceptions. Probably just got a wounded up batch of Thais or I just happened to be on a bad run. I did meet a few Thais with better English who actually "gets" me. They tend to be older than 25 though.

Gentlemen, this is what we call "Overgaming in Asia."

Let's establish some key facts first:

1. Asian women are competitive and prone to being jealous as well. (AWALT) but the difference is in HOW they express the competitiveness.

2. All Asian women for the most part get very jealous. Thai women are notoriously jealous, more so than outright competitive. The differences are in HOW they express the jealously.

Agree Amplify, Negs, Sarcasm, Dark Humor (Dusty, Cr33pin, or Leonard D humor), Dread Game, Caveman, and Asshole Game techniques do not work on "un-molded" Asian women. You cannot initially use Advanced Western Style game on Asian women in Asia.

The only exceptions to this rule are as follows:

Post-University working professionals that work with foreigners and speak great English. (eg. lawyers, doctors, finance, corporate business managers, etc.) Of course they tend to be 25+, have money, and you are far from the first foreigner using Western jokes on them. They understand literary devices, and can mentally put together your attempts at sarcasm because they can think/dream to themselves in English.

For younger women with much less exposure, experience, and English knowledge, you must keep it simple. If you want to have a deep discourse on political discussions, talk to your RVF buddies. When with the girls, we are talking about:

Food
Simple Culture stuff
Their native language (shit can go on forever, but take breaks and make them help you with flash cards and sentences)
Weather
Clothes
Hair
Skin care
Vacation places
Flowers and Nature(animals)
Friends
Family (not drama, but who is their brother, cousin, grandfather, where they live, blah blah blah)
School
Directions on how to travel or walk/bus/taxi somewhere (Logistics basically)
Rent prices
Prices of various goods
Their neighbors
Their old classmates
Dogs, cats, chickens, ducks, etc. (If they are from the country)
Motorbikes or cars
Weddings of family members and friends (don't bring up on a chick you would not LTR)

When it is time to escalate physically, segue from clothes, hair, and skin and compliment them first.

If you are past the fucking stage, continue to pull from these topics. When done rinse and repeat. No Asian woman will ever tell you the exact same thing verbatim on any subject. There is always something else. Even if there wasn't, who gives a good flip. I would personally know the answer to many of those questions before asking them. Let them talk until they are tired. The objective is to keep them busy being and dealing with you. This makes them feel closer to you.

The strategy is to just spend time with them and build trust, rapport, and relationship. If you are a good listener it will work. Doing this in the West is 100% Friendzone bait, but not here.

Obviously, you need to be able to read women initially and figure out if she is a hardened slut or not. If she is, do not do much of this. Again, that should be obvious. Out of control female hypergamy is why those advanced game techniques are needed in the West. It's not always needed in the East, because these societies are still male dominated.

This sounds simple as fuck, but almost every Westerner fucks this shit up when they start gaming in Asia (myself included). You have to detox your mind and run a game more suited and traditional wise, mixed with their local culture.

Moving on...

Back to Thai chicks and their jealously. While all Asian women are like that, they express it in different ways.

For example, you gave an example of how Pinays are when talking about previous girls. They are known for their curiosity regarding this and get super jealous and competitive. Chinese on the other hand don't want to know about your past girls for the most part and is considered poor manners in their culture to ask. That said, some super jealous types will still ask because they want to know how much pressure they need to apply to you to force you into a more dedicated or serious relationship with them. In some cases, letting both Pinays and Chinese know you have other girlfriends, is advanced preselection game.

Does this work with Thai women? Not really. Plenty will wave you off if that is the case and they are not too worried about it. Some of this is Sexual Marketplace driven but some of this is also cultural. They have alot of foreigners to choose from compared to other Asians and they are used to being around them. I can cause a car accident in some places in China. Could I cause a car wreck due to curious Thai people rubbernecking trying to look at me? No. Thais can flip back and forth between outsiders and being committed to Thai guys. Other Asians may not be willing to do that and develop a fetish or preference for outsiders.

Instead of Agree/Amplify, just deflect. Save your face. If they ask a stupid question, change the subject. If they press you hard, ask them to give you some face or ask them why are they trying to make you lose face. It spins their hamsters out of orbit when you use Alpha Asian man game on them.

If you get a smartass, that says, "What do you know about face?" Tell them, that you know they are being rude and not giving you any. If that leads to a fight, say good night or separate for a bit. I promise you she will come back to you. If not, NEXT! That would mean she is a Tiger looking for easy prey and thought you were a sucker. That kind of bitch can keep steppin. You don't need a bitch that would demand you get on your knees and apologize. She needs to go find a beta bitch male.

This is another reason why dominating women, breaking them in, biting them, speaking as if they belong to you, and blowing their brains out with sex, has value. Every minute apart will drive them nuts, but this is a subject for another topic.

Don't be so eager to demonstrate value to any Asian woman (Money, status, social value, etc). To some degree, you need to match intensity. If she is super excited about you, there is no need to show off. If she is hardly interested in you, you could throw her a bone as a last ditch effort to see if that grabs her attention, but do it knowing it could cause her to next you or you to next her.

Understand that if she is talking to you, she saw something she liked. Reel her in like a lake fish, not a shark in the ocean.

Thai people in general are less crass than Chinese, Korean, or Filipino etc people. They love people that are humble, like Japanese people are. Preselection bragging is not exactly being humble. Use their cultural quirks against them. They love all that smiling and whatnot. Use that against them. When you can take things they give you and work it to your advantage, that's how you know you are winning.

Now. For LTRs or girls you like ALOT. (All this is post-regular-banging). You can slowly introduce them into your ways. Humor, language use, value system, etc. Don't add degeneracy and hedonistic stuff if you know that is against their value system. (like certain Asians will never do anal sex)

You will be able to enjoy their company in a different way if you get to that stage, but until you build strong bond, there is no point in trying to indoctrinate a stubborn/skeptical 20 year old into anything. They are looking for you to train them into something initially. They want a regular bond first.

I hope this makes sense.

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^ TK, I disagree with some parts of what you said. I don't think it's overgaming.

If anything, I'm probably undergaming. If it is indeed a case of overgaming, then how would we explain the drastically different reactions of Thais vs Viets, Phils, and Indos, given they're all Asians? Plus, I've been in Thailand for 8 months. I should know better than to overgame Asians by now. It might have been an issue in the first month or so, but I've scaled it way back.

Here's what I think it is.

Thais are a lot more narcissistic than your average Chinese or Filipina. This narcissism, plus the higher influx of foreigner options they get, enables them to be pickier among foreigners. They build an ideal foreigner in their heads, and if you deviate one iota from that ideal, you're eliminated.

I've had Thais eliminate me based on my deaf voice alone -- whereas Filipinas or Viets didn't care about how my voice sounded. I know this because they told me this straight up. One Thai said "I know my English is not good, but you don't say the vowels correctly and I can't be with someone like that." (nearly verbatim, with my own corrections to her English). I'm sure a lot of other Thais were thinking of it, but didn't bring themselves to say it... instead they just threw the date. They folded their arms, didn't ask me any questions, and acted uninterested despite me asking them questions about most those topics you've listed above.

As for face. I know what you mean. And this is my assessment of Thais... they only care about their OWN face, and they don't give a shit about other's face. Especially that of foreigners. I like to think I have enough pride to maintain my own face, and if she doesn't care about mine, then she can gladly take a hike.

This may only be anecdotal, but I've met one Thai under 25 and she showed me her tinder, and she had over 2000 matches. She and I had a great time, great date that ended in a bang, and I banged her hard. I wanted to see her again after. I think I did everything right, but I never saw her again. She simply had too many options and I fell off the radar. Like I said, I probably did not fit her ideal and she found other guys who could fit hers better than I could. Think I overgamed her? Nah.

And the ones who got spazzed out when I "agreed and amplified" are not the ones who were "un-molded". She had plenty of foreigners on deck from what I've seen on her Line. If she were really "un-molded" or inexperienced, she would not be asking the sort of leading questions trying to get me to admit that I were seeing other girls. I tell you -- these girls KNEW what questions to ask, what buttons to prod, and what answers to look for. And when I did not toe the line, she got offended. Or fake offended, I'm not sure. Maybe if I did what you said -- calling her out for trying to make me lose face would have gotten her to back off. I'll admit I haven't done that. But I still get the feeling that if I did this, the result would've been the same anyway. Thais generally, with few exceptions, are too proud to admit they've were being rude.

When I'm with "un-molded" filipinas or indos, and I banter with them in the sense that you think I'm "overgaming", their reaction is not that of Thai-style offense, but more like confusion. The look on their face shows they're completely lost. Picking up on that, I put myself in reverse, back up, and explain that I'm just joking. Then they immediately blame their own English (or lack of). After a few times of this, I make my banter really obvious and easy for them to "get". Or I don't banter as much, if at all, depending on the girl. From there, all's been well.

Despite all that, plenty of other westerners don't have these problems with Thais. Some have more game than me and I've seen them, firsthand, "overgaming" them as you describe, without any issues. That leads me to think that I'm not as compatible with Thais as I am with other Asian ethnicities.
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Clean Slate was that Thai wtih the 200 matches someone you also met online?

If so why do you think you stood out to meet?

Might be the Thai girls are suffering the same things the girls in the States are online.

I'm sure you have read some posts from younger good looking guys going to Bangkok and basically sport %&ing the girls through online.

This seems to be a new trend. It used to be recently divorced men taking these trips with serious intentions.
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(03-29-2017 12:43 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  ^ TK, I disagree with some parts of what you said. I don't think it's overgaming.

If anything, I'm probably undergaming. If it is indeed a case of overgaming, then how would we explain the drastically different reactions of Thais vs Viets, Phils, and Indos, given they're all Asians? Plus, I've been in Thailand for 8 months. I should know better than to overgame Asians by now. It might have been an issue in the first month or so, but I've scaled it way back.

Here's what I think it is.

Thais are a lot more narcissistic than your average Chinese or Filipina. This narcissism, plus the higher influx of foreigner options they get, enables them to be pickier among foreigners. They build an ideal foreigner in their heads, and if you deviate one iota from that ideal, you're eliminated.

I've had Thais eliminate me based on my deaf voice alone -- whereas Filipinas or Viets didn't care about how my voice sounded. I know this because they told me this straight up. One Thai said "I know my English is not good, but you don't say the vowels correctly and I can't be with someone like that." (nearly verbatim, with my own corrections to her English). I'm sure a lot of other Thais were thinking of it, but didn't bring themselves to say it... instead they just threw the date. They folded their arms, didn't ask me any questions, and acted uninterested despite me asking them questions about most those topics you've listed above.

As for face. I know what you mean. And this is my assessment of Thais... they only care about their OWN face, and they don't give a shit about other's face. Especially that of foreigners. I like to think I have enough pride to maintain my own face, and if she doesn't care about mine, then she can gladly take a hike.

This may only be anecdotal, but I've met one Thai under 25 and she showed me her tinder, and she had over 2000 matches. She and I had a great time, great date that ended in a bang, and I banged her hard. I wanted to see her again after. I think I did everything right, but I never saw her again. She simply had too many options and I fell off the radar. Like I said, I probably did not fit her ideal and she found other guys who could fit hers better than I could. Think I overgamed her? Nah.

And the ones who got spazzed out when I "agreed and amplified" are not the ones who were "un-molded". She had plenty of foreigners on deck from what I've seen on her Line. If she were really "un-molded" or inexperienced, she would not be asking the sort of leading questions trying to get me to admit that I were seeing other girls. I tell you -- these girls KNEW what questions to ask, what buttons to prod, and what answers to look for. And when I did not toe the line, she got offended. Or fake offended, I'm not sure. Maybe if I did what you said -- calling her out for trying to make me lose face would have gotten her to back off. I'll admit I haven't done that. But I still get the feeling that if I did this, the result would've been the same anyway. Thais generally, with few exceptions, are too proud to admit they've were being rude.

When I'm with "un-molded" filipinas or indos, and I banter with them in the sense that you think I'm "overgaming", their reaction is not that of Thai-style offense, but more like confusion. The look on their face shows they're completely lost. Picking up on that, I put myself in reverse, back up, and explain that I'm just joking. Then they immediately blame their own English (or lack of). After a few times of this, I make my banter really obvious and easy for them to "get". Or I don't banter as much, if at all, depending on the girl. From there, all's been well.

Despite all that, plenty of other westerners don't have these problems with Thais. Some have more game than me and I've seen them, firsthand, "overgaming" them as you describe, without any issues. That leads me to think that I'm not as compatible with Thais as I am with other Asian ethnicities.

You basically proved my point. Sluts? Check. Online dating? Check. Saturated Market? Check.

Considering your impediment, Thai's are not the most forgiving or accommodating to begin with. That's culture. Pinays are the most nurturing of all Asians. That's not even debatable. Someone like you would have few issues with a Pinay for that reason alone.

Unmolded women are women with low to no notch count. Not these sluts you were talking to. If Rawmeo were in this thread he would probably say zero notch count, but I will go ahead and give the benefit of the doubt on 1-3. If you are banging a chick with 2000 matches like that, no way in hell does she have less than 20 notches. This is some of the reason why some people laugh at guys that say they have a serious Thai girlfriend. They automatically assume, your bitch has taken a mile worth of dick well before you. Right or wrong, that is the stigma.

Your buddies overgaming girls and getting laid, are almost 100% gaming veteran sluts. A young woman under 20 with 3 or less partners is never going to respond to hard game tactics like a chick with 60 notches will. For the latter, she is just getting her nut and spun the wheel on you for that night.

If you get the bang on chicks like that, what's the big deal anyway? Those aren't keepers. I wouldn't keep a bitch like that in the fence area of my pasture. That's a community toilet in my eyes.

If I had to game in Thailand, I would work hard at learning Thai, and I would daygame and circle game only and try and catch them as young as legally feasible and get in their head, while getting my regular nut with whatever is available, while I work on the prospects. That's only if I wanted a serious girl. If not, then you get whatever the market can bear.

It's going to be hard for anyone of us to know what it is like to have your speech issue, so to some degree, some places in the world are going to be bad-to-terrible for you no matter what.

In the end, you are doing fine. Pinays and certain others are a better cultural fit than Thais for you. I can understand that part well because I do not vibe with Thai women at all. Not in value system, culture, you name it.

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(03-29-2017 12:58 PM)stpete Wrote:  Clean Slate was that Thai wtih the 200 matches someone you also met online?

If so why do you think you stood out to meet?

Might be the Thai girls are suffering the same things the girls in the States are online.

I'm sure you have read some posts from younger good looking guys going to Bangkok and basically sport %&ing the girls through online.

This seems to be a new trend. It used to be recently divorced men taking these trips with serious intentions.

He's tall and handsome with a square jaw (no homo).

The arbitrage will always change. I warned fat, old, out of shape, p4p monger guys with Aspergers, MGTOW syndrome, and other assorted omega-isms, that SEA would not stay easy forever back in 2012. The ones playing around in massage joints and gogo bars but wanted a wife from there, thought I was full of shit. That was 5 years ago. Can you imagine what the place might work out into in 5 more at this rate?

The city for as long as the government allows will always be a sex destination. Just won't be as easier or as cheap, once that standard of living rises.

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1 John 4:20 - If anyone says, I love God, and hates (detests, abominates) his brother [in Christ], he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, Whom he has not seen.
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TK, yeah that all makes sense now. Cultural fit makes a huge difference in how you perceive the country and its people, and how they perceive you. In the end, Phils is probably the best fit for me. Jury is still out on Viet as I need more time to suss things out, but so far -- things are good.
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(03-28-2017 08:40 PM)Misito Wrote:  Just came back from 1 month in Thailand.
An aussie girl I fucked left me a hicky.

Hot tip: hickys are quite easy to clear, at least to the level they just look like a bruise instead of a hicky. You get yourself a narrow coin and firmly scrape its edge across the skin. Unpleasant feeling, but it bursts all the surface capillaries the blood has been drawn into, so it fades out very quickly.
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(03-29-2017 07:27 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  
(03-28-2017 08:40 PM)Misito Wrote:  Just came back from 1 month in Thailand.
An aussie girl I fucked left me a hicky.

Hot tip: hickys are quite easy to clear, at least to the level they just look like a bruise instead of a hicky. You get yourself a narrow coin and firmly scrape its edge across the skin. Unpleasant feeling, but it bursts all the surface capillaries the blood has been drawn into, so it fades out very quickly.

Should have told them it was a cigarette burn and kept it moving.

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1 John 4:20 - If anyone says, I love God, and hates (detests, abominates) his brother [in Christ], he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, Whom he has not seen.
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TK - Thanks - Yes, plus if you were a woman living in a city where guys are going there from other countries to have sex with women and you are meeting anther foreigner to date, it makes sense you may be sensitive to these things.
I'm sure CleanSlate you were there long enough to not seem to be a tourist but it might still be a reason they are more sensitive.
Glad to hear your adventure continues to Vietnam. It's good to experience everything for yourself. I'm sure you find, like I have, that your experiences are different that what you read on here.
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I'll chime in on the Viet/Thai dichotomy with my own two cents.

I've dated half a dozen Thai girls and whether they were from working class backgrounds or solidly upper-middle class, they all shared a similar apathy towards education and serious issues. It was hard at first to adapt - mainly because I fancy myself an intellectual - but I really had to skew my behavior around the Thais to be lighthearted, silly and above all non-serious. It's a lot of fun at first because they're like little kids being shown magic tricks, but it starts to get old when you eventually realize that you're the only adult in the room.

Recently, I've gravitated towards dating Viets and my current girlfriend is originally from Saigon. Barring the gangster chicks, all of the Viets that I've been with have been a lot more oriented towards education, most of them attending school, holding down part time jobs or at the very least helping their families in successful small businesses. My gf has only been in the states for 5 years, but she speaks English at a high level of proficiency and despite the accent and small grammatical errors, can converse on a wide array of topics. I never feel like I have to dumb down what I want to say even though she's foreign born and 10 years my junior. Somewhat tellingly, nearly all of these girls - including my gf - that I've encountered are either RN's or are studying nursing. It's not brain surgery (literally) but you do have to have a base minimum amount of smarts to get into that field and I think that trait is actively encouraged in their culture.

In addition, I've noticed a streak of individualism and also the ambition factor with Viets is very real: you see huge success stories with Vietnamese Americans in the US - David Tran (owner of Sriracha), the Boiling Crab restaurant owners, David Le (Lee's sandwiches which has hundreds of stores). I can't think of any big overseas Thai success stories. All the rich Thais are in Thailand and they're mostly either Chinese-Thai or linked to the royals. Unfortunately, this ambition sometimes tends to show up in a mercenary streak with Viet girls, but it's all pros and cons.

Filipinos aren't obviously known for their intellectualism (same situation with the Chinese immigrants and well connected natives owning everything) but maybe their inherent sweetness gets you over the hump, CleanSlate? As for Viets, I can safely say that their attitude towards deep thinking, business success and drive to succeed is a lot more aligned with my long term goals. Thais are fun to hang out with and the women are attractive and mostly pleasant, but as I approach my late 30's, I find having an occasionally meaningful conversation to be more and more important.
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^ thanks for sharing, booshala. Good to know I'm not alone in my thinking. I do try to get goofy with the Thais, but that just seems to piss them off. haha

I'm also dating a Vietnamese girl in Saigon (she's from the north so has some Chinese blood), and I don't feel I have to dumb down anything I say even if her English is on equal par with some of the Thais I've talked to. We just spent the weekend together and she being a history buff, we went on a day trip to some historical sites a couple hours from Saigon.

It's all a learning experience. When I visit each country, not only do I learn something new about the world, but also something new about myself.
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Mid-April update:

(1) I'm happy to share that I've finally earned enough money to break even with my living expenses. I already have one repeat client whose business I'm helping build, and I have another client who directly contacted me. This second client may hopefully become a repeat client after this month if he's happy with my work. If this trend continues, as opposed to just having one good month, I will be able to leave my savings alone for a while. The next level would then be adding to my savings, instead of burning through it. Knock on wood.

(2) I'm also dating a cute and smart Vietnamese girl 15 years younger than me. It's still early, but I like where this is going. We travel together and it's fun, light hearted and relaxing. She's teaching me Vietnamese (on top of the language apps I use to practice on my own) and I've been helping her with her English.

(3) There are lots of networking opportunities that I have yet to take advantage of to the fullest. I've gone to some networking meetups and met a decent few people, but I could do more... work the room more, show up more, become a familiar face instead of a stranger, etc.

(4) Been hitting the gym five days a week with another forum member, and the gains are becoming noticeable. Girls notice it. Friends notice it. Strangers notice it. "So you go to the gym everyday? It looks like it."

(5) A little funny thing happened when I went to a doctor for a checkup. Instead of being rushed out of his office like in America, we talked for an hour. Smart young fella asked if I were married, and I ended up telling him everything about my divorce and how I became single and started traveling the world. I don't know how that happened -- it all just spilled out. He asked lots of questions. I think he gamed me! And the kicker is, he offered to set me up with a cute young girl... because "you're handsome and should have a beautiful girl on your arm!" (his words).

Last thing, I'll try to update the blog more. Maybe two or three posts a month instead of just one or two every couple months.
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Have you been able to eliminate your u.s number? If so, how?
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(04-14-2017 07:42 AM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  Have you been able to eliminate your u.s number? If so, how?

You mean my phone number? No, I kept it as a google voice number. Why?
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Thanks for the update, CleanSlate, it's always great to hear how you're doing!
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(04-16-2017 12:32 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  
(04-14-2017 07:42 AM)Freebird Flying Wrote:  Have you been able to eliminate your u.s number? If so, how?

You mean my phone number? No, I kept it as a google voice number. Why?

I'm paying about 60 dollars a month on a phone bill for my u.s. line, and when I actually make calls I get charged 20 cents a minute. Seems high!
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^ Seems insane...
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^ yeah that's crazy. Port it to google voice, cancel your plan, and set up Google Hangouts on your phone. You won't have to pay another dime!
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(02-03-2017 02:34 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  So here are five things I wish I had known before quitting my job (could be a good blog topic to expand on):

1. Make sure your business model is viable
2. Have a legit plan to acquire customers or clients
3. Stay off freelancer sites like upwork or freelancer, they are a waste of time
4. Don't sign up for every newsletter about your _____ business (if you must, just pick one -- and ONLY one, otherwise you'll waste a lot of time)
5. Network more, make more connections, engage with them, nurture more business relationships

Finally wrote a blog post on this. Expanded it to seven things I wish I knew before quitting my job.

Here's the link: http://www.masculinexpat.com/5-things-i-...ng-my-job/
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