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RE: On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis
(06-17-2016 11:59 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote: After reading this well done take on how to get laid with Instagram I'd venture to say that dating sites as we know them are on the way out. Instagram is more real, while at the same time appearing a bit contrived.
Sure, the photos are often staged and the settings insincere, but think about the alternative. A dating site can have a couple of profile pics taken five years ago when the girl was still hot, but Instagram by design demands constant new material - there's only so many MySpace angles a girl can take of herself before it's clear she's actually a SIF.
So, while companies like Match Group (owner of Match, POF, OKC...) will probably always be around to some degree, they face a serious problem with the platform model of IG. Match spends millions perfecting algorithms to perfect match ups, yet the fundamental setback with dating sites is everybody lies their asses off about everything - they always have since the dinosaur days of the personal columns in newspapers.
Dating sites tried the picture & paragraph route, then got fancy with targeted questioning for profile info. In fact, the pictures themselves were secondary to the business model - I never heard of anybody getting their OKC profile pics rejected because some reviewer thought they were inaccurate or too old.
IG never bothered with profile paragraphs or questions that can be manipulated - the photos are the primary purpose. Consequently, when it comes to an accurate picture of who you might consider dating, Match and the rest will never catch up as they cannot possibly provide a fresh stream of actual, current pictures of people living their lives.
From the pictures, a person can also get a feel for other aspects of the person in the picture - what she wears, what she likes, activities she does, what her friends look like, etc. etc. Instagram is all about this, and fakers can be quickly detected. Narcissistic as it may be, I would not ignore this trend.
This is right on. I missed the first wave of the apps which have now found their course (death).
Doesn't this also give you the ability to ditch facebook entirely?
I'm sick of being the only person on there anyway that posts an interesting article, doesn't virtue signal, and actually will debate something thoughtfully vs. being labeled a "troll."
The 60-70% drones on facebook aren't worth anybody's time, not that you guys didn't know that already. Maybe it's time for a full dismantling.
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RE: On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis
(06-15-2016 01:00 PM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote: (06-15-2016 11:22 AM)Phoenix Wrote: OK, can someone give an overview of how using Instagram to get laid works? Does it include some GPS or location thing and a messaging aspect like on tinder?
You can search for hashtags and locations. For example, you could find all users who recently posted a picture with the hashtag #bangkok or everyone who posted a picture and geotagged it to a location, for example "RCA - Route 66". This way you can find everyone who went to a particular club or event the night before and posted it on Instagram. Pretty powerful if you ask me.
There was a time when Instagram didn't allow to message other users but nowadays you can message and chat with others just like on every other social media app. The big advantage is - as OP already pointed out - that you have much less and much weaker competition on Instagram as there are not many guys who have a good IG page with a big following.
I started taking Instagram seriously about 3 months ago. Since then I have used various methods to grow my page and will hit 10,000 followers (with 1,000 to 2,000 likes for most pictures) at the end of the month (I am currently growing at a rate of ~100 new followers per day). I only post 1 pic every week or so but I try to only post high quality pics. I haven't tried to get laid from Instagram so far as I am still focusing on growing but I did get some messages and phone numbers from good looking girls in my "niche". If I actively searched and messaged girls on Instagram, I am pretty sure it would be a lot more effective than Tinder.
I wouldn't recommend to buy fake followers unless your followers-to-like ratio is outstanding. My ratio is pretty good. I could probably buy 10k followers and nobody would notice because having 20k followers and more than 1k likes on your pictures doesn't look suspicious. If you plan to monetize your site by promoting products of other companies in your niche once you are big enough, you shouldn't buy any fake followers at all.
I will probably write a datasheet in the next couple of months. Fisto's sheet is good and already covers many things. However, it doesn't really cover the most important aspect: how to really grow your page and monetize it. In the end the amount of followers defines your status on Instagram. With a big following comes power. Just imagine having 100k+ followers of a certain demographic and target group and then marketing some of your own products to them via your page.
thanks!
It will be very good advice for sure.
Could you post IG accounts of guys who are doing quite well?
I will post the ones who caught my attention, let me know your impressions about them:
https://www.instagram.com/mariohervas/
https://www.instagram.com/nick__bateman/
https://www.instagram.com/jeffkasser/?hl=es
https://www.instagram.com/tavicastro/
(just as example)
Maybe it's not their goal but I'm sure they're leveraging lot of pussy based on their online perceived status..and not only from shallow girls but also the average ones(most of young girls use IG and are hooked to it, e just have to adapt to the modern times)
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RE: On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis
(06-25-2016 09:08 AM)Rendőrség Wrote: Could you post IG accounts of guys who are doing quite well?
I will post the ones who caught my attention, let me know your impressions about them:
https://www.instagram.com/mariohervas/
https://www.instagram.com/nick__bateman/
https://www.instagram.com/jeffkasser/?hl=es
https://www.instagram.com/tavicastro/
(just as example)
Maybe it's not their goal but I'm sure they're leveraging lot of pussy based on their online perceived status..and not only from shallow girls but also the average ones(most of young girls use IG and are hooked to it, e just have to adapt to the modern times)
I'm not that impressed with the quality of the chicks commenting on these guys pics. Any of us could pull chicks like that off okc with just 5 profile pics we never need to update.
Side thought: another strategy could be to link your IG to your okc profile but put all of your shirtless body/lifting pics in IG because those kinds of pics are acceptable within that platform but they are not acceptable directly on okc. It's a way to show off without being labeled a douche.
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RE: On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis
I, too, would like to add to the chorus of getting a pro or program to manage your followers for you.
I started out at 80, honest hard-gained followers. These were real people who actually liked my stuff. But man it was some slow ass growth. And I have a pretty decent page with good content. But I would post some of my best work and get, like 35 likes on a good day.
After using a service, I now have over 750 followers. Several of my pieces have over 150 likes and my phone is blowing up with IG notifications all day.
Out of this, so far I have been:
-Hit up for a commission job to make some art for someone. He backed out, but prior to this I wasn't even getting likes, much less asked to do paid commissions
-Opened by some artist chick, I think I mentioned it earlier in the thread. Wasn't my type, but cool to connect with an artist across the country who was quite skilled
-Pipelined this girl in Mexico who is pretty hot. At least a HB7. Did one comment on her page and she moved it to DM, where we started sending each other pics and flirting/sexualizing the convo. I plan on going there soon, and now I have a chick that's very eager to meet with me and show me around when I get there. I think my artwork did a lot of DHV for me.
My entire page has been focused around my work, the only thing that identifies me is my small profile pic, where I'm custom suited up. Girls that would comment on my work asked for FB or other social media so they could see my face. I take this as a good sign.
I think to really make the most of this, I need some cool lifestyle DHV pics doing some cool shit, shirtless at the beach, around cool people, no selfies etc. Basically I need to put more of myself in there. This combined with my art would give me a pretty solid profile. Apparently it really does "go down in the DM".
So yeah this shit works.
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RE: On Instagram vs Online Dating-an analysis
(07-31-2016 09:46 PM)toejam Wrote: Pancake
Did the increase in followers also increase your likes?
Also what are the sources of the followers? Tags or followers of a specific account?
Instagress has a three day trial if you want to compare the two
Hard to tell if it increased the likes, I use Tags4Likes to tag all of my photos to get 30-50 on each photo. I don't really care about likes though, I imagine that girls only look at your follower count.
It lets you pick the sources for tags, I chose fitness-related tags as I post a lot of fitness photos.
I'll try out Instagress next, thanks for that tip.
(This post was last modified: 07-31-2016 09:51 PM by pancakemouse.)
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