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RE: Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral
Taking the example of some kid getting in trouble for fingering a girl who was passed out in an alley as "all heterosexual males are 2nd class citizens" is ridiculous.

There's a crazy echo chamber effect in this community and too many fear-mongering dudes who are out of touch.

I assure you that real-life is quite different from what you read from hysterical stories on the web.
07-26-2018 05:49 PM
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RE: Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral
jefferyjerpp and I have seen both sides of this, believe me.

100+ notches, now I live in an essential pussy paradise, or atleast fun paradise for acting the fool and partying. I have had an insanely good time dicking around with young 20's girls in even California (SD, Newport Beach) very inebriated with essentially no consequences.

But we have very closely seen the dark side of these campuses. Shit is very real. The adult world isn't that bad in many parts of the country as it is in these coastal colleges.

The reason I can do dumb shit now in places like Cali, is because my crew and I are tall, good looking, well dressed, and more importantly have GAME. A drunk 19 year old knows god damn nothing, and they call his fumblings rape, ruin his life, and never give him the chance to learn and grow. They kill the man before he ever comes into being.

It is an abortion of sorts. All that potential lost.

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07-26-2018 05:55 PM
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RE: Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral
I don't know if this guy is guilty or not. I DO know that, when i was young, fingering a drunk girl but not putting your penis in her would NOT be considered "rape". It would probably have been regarded by society as a "missed opportunity". Now it's rape. OK, whatever.

But the thing that really raises an eyebrow about this is that letter...that impossibly long, detailed, solipsistic, "pay attention to MEEEEEEEE!" letter. Mattress girl could've written that letter. It's the sort of letter perpetually aggrieved women write. In their minds, they write it in their own menstrual blood. They write it to over-dramatize an otherwise mundane situation, and satisfy a craving for drama.

True story: I was sexually assaulted as a 15 yr old. A guy tried to get a little touchy with my pee pee, fortunately denim jeans aren't very grope-friendly. I was a little frightened for a moment (we were in a car), but I got out of it OK. I told no one. I saw no reason to. I made sure never to go to the place where I might run into this guy again. But otherwise...problem solved.

What I didn't do it write a long, endless, meandering letter to anyone and everyone. Part of that is because i'm not a woman. But part of it is because i wanted to get far away from it, to put it out of my mind. And yet she doesn't. She wants to wallow in her supposed "raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape!". She wants to wrap herself in it, like a fine dress, and parade herself all over town with it. Mattress girl did that, too, and scores of others.

And i can't help but feel that the reason they want to do that, the reason they don't have the normal "whoa! Let's put THAT chapter of my life far, far behind me!" like a normal victim, is that they are not normal victims.

Not normal victims. Let's examine this further.:

They certainly are not normal - more likely, they're a cocktail of delusion, psychosis, anger and who knows what all else, looking for someone to explode on like a grenade.

And, i suspect, they are not victims, either.
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07-26-2018 08:31 PM
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RE: Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral
(07-26-2018 05:49 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Taking the example of some kid getting in trouble for fingering a girl who was passed out in an alley as "all heterosexual males are 2nd class citizens" is ridiculous.

There's a crazy echo chamber effect in this community and too many fear-mongering dudes who are out of touch.

I assure you that real-life is quite different from what you read from hysterical stories on the web.

"Jack Montague and his attorneys recently discovered that David Post, who chaired the hearing panel against the basketball player, had been directly involved in getting his accuser to file a claim against him.....But Post was called in to assist Yale’s Deputy Title IX Coordinator Angela Gleason in convincing Montague’s accuser — referred to only as Jane Roe in court documents — to file a formal complaint against him, after she had opted for an informal resolution that wouldn’t punish the former basketball captain."

Real life is definitely different, but make no mistake, men are either second class citizens or walking targets in many academic and corporate environments (where sadly I spend my time). For example Yale bureaucrats literally conspired to get a kid expelled, because he was a star athlete and they wanted to show they were "serious" about fighting the fake rape culture they invented. I would also be unsurprised if politically motivated DAs in democrat controlled areas started pushing show trials to bolster their reputation.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33651/yal...ashe-schow
07-27-2018 09:43 AM
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Never forget. This case still makes my blood boil.

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09-23-2018 10:47 AM
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RE: Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral
I don't remember what made me search up Brock Turner on here, I guess I figured there would be some quality analysis. Fucking mind blown. I'll admit that I was hoodwinked and in the "looks pretty cut and dry, guilty as fuck" camp. Mad props to TLOZ and others for their analysis. I've taken precautions before (voice-recording a few sexual encounters with some suspect chicks, etc.) but man...Life, everything as he knew it, changed forever in one night...Terrifying.

Not going to stop me from going out and slaying box though
10-30-2018 09:46 PM
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RE: Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral
(07-27-2018 09:43 AM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  
(07-26-2018 05:49 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Taking the example of some kid getting in trouble for fingering a girl who was passed out in an alley as "all heterosexual males are 2nd class citizens" is ridiculous.

There's a crazy echo chamber effect in this community and too many fear-mongering dudes who are out of touch.

I assure you that real-life is quite different from what you read from hysterical stories on the web.

"Jack Montague and his attorneys recently discovered that David Post, who chaired the hearing panel against the basketball player, had been directly involved in getting his accuser to file a claim against him.....But Post was called in to assist Yale’s Deputy Title IX Coordinator Angela Gleason in convincing Montague’s accuser — referred to only as Jane Roe in court documents — to file a formal complaint against him, after she had opted for an informal resolution that wouldn’t punish the former basketball captain."

Real life is definitely different, but make no mistake, men are either second class citizens or walking targets in many academic and corporate environments (where sadly I spend my time). For example Yale bureaucrats literally conspired to get a kid expelled, because he was a star athlete and they wanted to show they were "serious" about fighting the fake rape culture they invented. I would also be unsurprised if politically motivated DAs in democrat controlled areas started pushing show trials to bolster their reputation.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33651/yal...ashe-schow

It was called The Duke Rape Case. The guys stood solid and prevented a miscarriage of justice that probably saved thousands of other young men.
10-30-2018 11:50 PM
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RE: Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral
(10-30-2018 11:50 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  
(07-27-2018 09:43 AM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  
(07-26-2018 05:49 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Taking the example of some kid getting in trouble for fingering a girl who was passed out in an alley as "all heterosexual males are 2nd class citizens" is ridiculous.

There's a crazy echo chamber effect in this community and too many fear-mongering dudes who are out of touch.

I assure you that real-life is quite different from what you read from hysterical stories on the web.

"Jack Montague and his attorneys recently discovered that David Post, who chaired the hearing panel against the basketball player, had been directly involved in getting his accuser to file a claim against him.....But Post was called in to assist Yale’s Deputy Title IX Coordinator Angela Gleason in convincing Montague’s accuser — referred to only as Jane Roe in court documents — to file a formal complaint against him, after she had opted for an informal resolution that wouldn’t punish the former basketball captain."

Real life is definitely different, but make no mistake, men are either second class citizens or walking targets in many academic and corporate environments (where sadly I spend my time). For example Yale bureaucrats literally conspired to get a kid expelled, because he was a star athlete and they wanted to show they were "serious" about fighting the fake rape culture they invented. I would also be unsurprised if politically motivated DAs in democrat controlled areas started pushing show trials to bolster their reputation.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33651/yal...ashe-schow

It was called The Duke Rape Case. The guys stood solid and prevented a miscarriage of justice that probably saved thousands of other young men.

ESPN did a great 30 for 30 documentary called Fantastic Lies, which was about the Duke case. I would recommend everyone see this film, especially college men or those planning on going to college. It just shows the abuse of power and the lengths that some prosecutors will go to railroad someone for personal interests. It also shows the insane hysteria and knee-jerk reaction by professors and students on an American campus.

Luckily these young men had a great support system with strong, stable families who could afford quality legal representation. There are probably a lot of young men who did not have the same resources available to them and as a result got chewed up by the system.
10-31-2018 01:03 AM
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