Post: #1

I have been having a shitty dryspell for 7 months. Not feeling very motivated and still in a fucked upo dead end job. Could you function in society as a celibate? Having a great job, friends, own house without getting laid? Or a prolonged dry spell means one ends up in a mental asylum or like Elliot Rodger?

Post: #2

Look at the source of the problem and solve it.

Why are you not getting laid? Is it because you are not approaching? Are you spending lots of time at home?

You are in South African man, this is one of the easiest places in the world to get laid. If you are not getting laid because the women you like are avoiding you, go for different type of girls. I presume you are white, just approach a bunch of black girls and you will be getting laid real soon. If you were in Toronto, I would probably understand it but in South Africa? Come on man, no reason for dry spell there.

Post: #3

Guess there is a cloud in every single lining. I quit drinking and clubbing and cut off my social circle of playa friends. Thus I have to run daygame which as you know has low ROI.

Post: #4

Yes you can. Look around you, you'll see countless betas (I'm not implying you're one) who are practically invisible to women, living without female affection, and they still function more or less normally. Wackos like Elliot Rodgers are a rarity.

Actually, this characteristic is also one of the differences between men and women. Before the advent of civilization, nearly all women successfully reproduced. On the other hand, less than 50% of men reproduced. While alphas were busy enjoying all the poon, betas were left on the sidelines to play with themselves, or invent something, like civilization. That means that unlike women, men are evolutionary adapted and more capable of enduring dry spells without going crazy. This is most evident when you look at unmarried, childless, 30+ women from your surroundings and compare them to their male peers. You'll find that the majority of those women are jaded and crazy to a certain degree. Some are just depressed and sad, while others have completely gone bonkers.

Don't ignore your problem, but don't worry so much that it paralyzes you. Think of it from another perspective: there are hordes of guys who would be lucky if their current dry spell was only 7 months long!

Roosh had a good article about those moments when you think nothing is going like it should:

http://www.rooshv.com/just-keep-going

Post: #5

I'm in the same boat as you. Just instead of seven month dry spell mines been lifelong. I know what you feel I have a constant headaches, low energy and a terrible self esteem. I always tried to do stuff to take my mind off of it. Also I think throughout history most men had sexual access to women. I think the reason that only 40% reproduced was not because of the Alphas hogging all the women. Rather it was because a large percentage of men died before they reached sexual maturity because of war and disease.

Post: #6

(06-06-2016 07:45 AM)Khan Wrote:  Yes you can. Look around you, you'll see countless betas (I'm not implying you're one) who are practically invisible to women, living without female affection, and they still function more or less normally. Wackos like Elliot Rodgers are a rarity.

Actually, this characteristic is also one of the differences between men and women. Before the advent of civilization, nearly all women successfully reproduced. On the other hand, less than 50% of men reproduced. While alphas were busy enjoying all the poon, betas were left on the sidelines to play with themselves, or invent something, like civilization. That means that unlike women, men are evolutionary adapted and more capable of enduring dry spells without going crazy. This is most evident when you look at unmarried, childless, 30+ women from your surroundings and compare them to their male peers. You'll find that the majority of those women are jaded and crazy to a certain degree. Some are just depressed and sad, while others have completely gone bonkers.

Don't ignore your problem, but don't worry so much that it paralyzes you. Think of it from another perspective: there are hordes of guys who would be lucky if their current dry spell was only 7 months long!

Roosh had a good article about those moments when you think nothing is going like it should:

http://www.rooshv.com/just-keep-going

Hm, I would argue with you. Many women have learned to adapt without men as they know that no matter their looks (in the west) they can still get laid and get much better looking men than themselves to support them. Remember, most guys in tough cities like Washington, DC, Toronoto, San Jose are still Blue Pill and will be more than happy with their overweight, boring, lazy partner as long as they get laid on a rare occasion.

So, where are you finding these "jaded" women? For example, I live in a metro area of 6 million people (Washington, DC) and even these supposedly single 30+ women still have standards that are very high. They may be a bit crazy, but unfortunately function pretty well in the fucked up USA. In many western society's based on my experience even older single women have learned to ignore men and carry on with their lives normally and on rare occasions when they do go out and look for relationships there is no shortage of guys throwing themselves at them. In my area most of these cougars I see still manage to date up. It is a sad truth but in the west there may be more of these Elliot Rodgers cases especially in large cities that have sex inbalances.

Post: #7

Society is geared towards celibate men.

So yes.

Post: #8

(06-06-2016 10:08 PM)TripleG Wrote:  Hm, I would argue with you. Many women have learned to adapt without men as they know that no matter their looks (in the west) they can still get laid and get much better looking men than themselves to support them. Remember, most guys in tough cities like Washington, DC, Toronoto, San Jose are still Blue Pill and will be more than happy with their overweight, boring, lazy partner as long as they get laid on a rare occasion.

So, where are you finding these "jaded" women? For example, I live in a metro area of 6 million people (Washington, DC) and even these supposedly single 30+ women still have standards that are very high. They may be a bit crazy, but unfortunately function pretty well in the fucked up USA. In many western society's based on my experience even older single women have learned to ignore men and carry on with their lives normally and on rare occasions when they do go out and look for relationships there is no shortage of guys throwing themselves at them. In my area most of these cougars I see still manage to date up. It is a sad truth but in the west there may be more of these Elliot Rodgers cases especially in large cities that have sex inbalances.

There you have it. By our standards they are crazy, but they manage to fit in well in this weird society of ours.

I agree with everything else you said. Maybe I used the wrong word - these women are not all jaded, but certainly are crazy. You're right, it's hard to be jaded when you don't have to lift a finger to get something in life and on every step the whole society is reminding you how great you are.

I live in a large city (1 million people) in Eastern Europe.

Post: #9

You can be celibate and function normal, but I don't know you can really be happy. Society (traditionally) is geared toward being with only one woman, not being celibate. If we are talking strictly scientifically speaking, the meaning of life is to survive and reproduce. Reproduction is essential for overall mental health because it is what we as human being were designed to do.

I think it's important to not let yourself be celibate for too long. In my experience this usually correlates with how much work you are putting in trying to meet and date women. Put in the work and you will get laid... anywhere.

Work meaning if your game is weak working on it. And if you your game is ok, just approaching and going on dates.

(06-07-2016 06:19 AM)Khan Wrote:  

(06-06-2016 10:08 PM)TripleG Wrote:  Hm, I would argue with you. Many women have learned to adapt without men as they know that no matter their looks (in the west) they can still get laid and get much better looking men than themselves to support them. Remember, most guys in tough cities like Washington, DC, Toronoto, San Jose are still Blue Pill and will be more than happy with their overweight, boring, lazy partner as long as they get laid on a rare occasion.

So, where are you finding these "jaded" women? For example, I live in a metro area of 6 million people (Washington, DC) and even these supposedly single 30+ women still have standards that are very high. They may be a bit crazy, but unfortunately function pretty well in the fucked up USA. In many western society's based on my experience even older single women have learned to ignore men and carry on with their lives normally and on rare occasions when they do go out and look for relationships there is no shortage of guys throwing themselves at them. In my area most of these cougars I see still manage to date up. It is a sad truth but in the west there may be more of these Elliot Rodgers cases especially in large cities that have sex inbalances.

There you have it. By our standards they are crazy, but they manage to fit in well in this weird society of ours.

I agree with everything else you said. Maybe I used the wrong word - these women are not all jaded, but certainly are crazy. You're right, it's hard to be jaded when you don't have to lift a finger to get something in life and on every step the whole society is reminding you how great you are.

I live in a large city (1 million people) in Eastern Europe.

Post: #10

I hate to sound patronizing, but at the moment you shouldn't be focusing on women, because based on your writing, your Well Being isn't where it needs be my friend. I used to be on the same boat, and was also trying to Bang my way in order to feel better, but that doesn't work at all my man! Modern women may have plenty of faults, but they sure can sense when a man has a negative aura around himself, and is in a Funk. 1) You mentioned that you're in a dead end job, so you must have a plan in place to rectify that. Read the Great post of MrLemon about his Heart Attack to fuel your motivation to instill that plan. And 2: When a man drops is circle of friends, that usually means that they were either dead end friends... or that your current emotional energy prevents you from being around guys who have their shit together, when you don't... yet.

If the latter is the case, just let them know that you'll be working on yourself for a while, and that you'll come around when you get better... and if they're major playas they'll understand and support you. Your Well Being is the Oil of your body while your confidence is your Gas, and you are currently running low on Both. Well Being is the hardest one to prop up, so focus on that. Women will still be there when you'll feel better. Don't forget that a woman does not have the ability to elevate a man at it's highest level, so even if you Bang one today, it would only be a temporary boost, just like someone boosting your Car Battery with some Booster cable. The Problem is still there, and needs to be fixed.

Post: #11

(06-06-2016 07:45 AM)Khan Wrote:  Yes you can. Look around you, you'll see countless betas (I'm not implying you're one) who are practically invisible to women, living without female affection, and they still function more or less normally. Wackos like Elliot Rodgers are a rarity.

Actually, this characteristic is also one of the differences between men and women. Before the advent of civilization, nearly all women successfully reproduced. On the other hand, less than 50% of men reproduced. While alphas were busy enjoying all the poon, betas were left on the sidelines to play with themselves, or invent something, like civilization. That means that unlike women, men are evolutionary adapted and more capable of enduring dry spells without going crazy. This is most evident when you look at unmarried, childless, 30+ women from your surroundings and compare them to their male peers. You'll find that the majority of those women are jaded and crazy to a certain degree. Some are just depressed and sad, while others have completely gone bonkers.

Don't ignore your problem, but don't worry so much that it paralyzes you. Think of it from another perspective: there are hordes of guys who would be lucky if their current dry spell was only 7 months long!

Roosh had a good article about those moments when you think nothing is going like it should:

http://www.rooshv.com/just-keep-going

So basically the betas got shit done while the alphas banged away. I think Roosh had an article titled 'why we need the beta male'. The betas do the boring stuff that doesnt get them access to girls but keeps things running.

Post: #12

Betas invented marriage to distribute girls equally. Or else, as has been the case, only the alphas be getting laid.

Currently we are reverting back to pre-civilization state when it comes to the idea of marriage. And thus now it is, once again, the alphas who get all the girls.

Post: #13

Again I think men treat steady sexual access (with any willing woman who passes the boner test) as synonymous with life-fulfillment. And for men that may be the case. But women tend to set the bar higher.

Remember Amy Schumer's infamous statement where she said that despite being fat she can "catch a dick" anytime she wants? Well, the average woman needs more reassurance than the fact they can "catch a dick". They are looking for commitment from a high-status man, and they're not going to get it unless they are high SMV. She wound up shacking up with a relatively dorky beta-bux. The average woman with her slutty rep and mediocre looks but no fame would not do as well.

So while yes, women beyond a certain point do find it hard to even get laid, most fixate their misery on not being able to attract the right sort of guy with the right amount of commitment. Just getting stuffed on the regular doesn't matter to them as much as it does to guys. Because of this key point of difference, they're never going to empathize with us and we'll never empathize with them.

Post: #14

@Op question
I don't think so. I think this is why do many men are not driven today.

Post: #15

No way, a week or two without pussy and I want to take an automatic weapon up the nearest clocktower.

Post: #16

^Try a year or two without pussy. Since I stopped drinking and pay for play its been a drought.

Post: #17

Since you work hard and don't spend a dime on booze & drugs you must have a lot of money...
Anyway, you got out of your playa's social circle and don't go out anymore so how do you wanna meet new pussy ?
Online dating ?
Celibate doesn't mean ostracizing yourself.

Post: #18

I was thinking about this when I woke up today, for some reason.

I actually think it's about the possibility of sex, not the sex itself.

In the days when more people got married, men still may only have been banging their wives once every few weeks. But their proximity to sex was much closer than the average man today who is single.

The married men of the past knew that all they had to do was roll over and say something smooth to their woman, and they may get laid.

An example is Howard Stern. Extremely successful, but I remember in the 90s he would talk on radio about how he only bangs his wife once a month.

But at least the possibility is there. They live in the same house etc. So he was able to function at work without worrying about sex.

Today, because of the viciousness of women, and the high standards on online dating, maybe 50% men are extremely worried that they may not get laid for the forseeable future.
I imagine this creates the biggest issues in productivity.

Another reason why day game is important. Don't rely on online.

Post: #19

(10-12-2018 08:32 AM)Pride male Wrote:  ^Try a year or two without pussy. Since I stopped drinking and pay for play its been a drought.

Yeah dude I stopped drinking too.To think that daygame is the only cure is madness.Im a night gamer the night excites me.

Just cause you stopped drinking it does not mean you still can't go out at night..Just drink soda water..

You still have skills from the night you have to go out and hit it RSD style to get back on the horse..

Go get massages and shit go for make outs with chicks increment back to lays..Im saying this as I m going through it too but Im side dick for a chick..But I've been thrown off my game as my body detoxes .I want to have Yoga Meditation energy like the chicks who teach it have.I want to bring new intensity and drinking fucks with this..I also got into powerlifting and drinking fucks with that...I got into meditation and drinking fucks with that..Drinking fucks with pick up .

If you go back to game while drunk you will be fucked in the future .If you are daygaming then switching back to night should be easier.Daygaming to me is setting up dates ,number farming..Night is ONS, is fun and for making friends..

Post: #20

(06-06-2016 07:45 AM)Khan Wrote:  Yes you can. Look around you, you'll see countless betas (I'm not implying you're one) who are practically invisible to women, living without female affection, and they still function more or less normally. Wackos like Elliot Rodgers are a rarity.

Actually, this characteristic is also one of the differences between men and women. Before the advent of civilization, nearly all women successfully reproduced. On the other hand, less than 50% of men reproduced. While alphas were busy enjoying all the poon, betas were left on the sidelines to play with themselves, or invent something, like civilization. That means that unlike women, men are evolutionary adapted and more capable of enduring dry spells without going crazy. This is most evident when you look at unmarried, childless, 30+ women from your surroundings and compare them to their male peers. You'll find that the majority of those women are jaded and crazy to a certain degree. Some are just depressed and sad, while others have completely gone bonkers.

Don't ignore your problem, but don't worry so much that it paralyzes you. Think of it from another perspective: there are hordes of guys who would be lucky if their current dry spell was only 7 months long!

Roosh had a good article about those moments when you think nothing is going like it should:

http://www.rooshv.com/just-keep-going

You do realize we are the descendants of the ones that reproduced right? The reason the others didn’t reproduce is because they died before having the chance to.

If you’re alive today, you come from a line of men that had what it took to survive and reproduce. Civilization was created by strong men with wives, not single men.

Only geniuses can afford not having a family without being considered a failure by society, and even then, it’s better if they have children to pass on their genius genes.

Post: #21

That depends on which society you live in and what the words "function" and "normally" mean to you.

In most societies, celibacy (interrupted only by marriage, maybe one or two girlfriends before or during marriage, and/or prostitutes) is the rule and not the exception for all but the most high-value men and sometimes cult leaders. So, in most societies, I would say that you can function normally as a celibate man because that is statistically what most men do.

So the next question to ask is: "is it possible for you to function abnormally by not being celibate for as long or as often as most men or to utilize the same solution that they have historically by getting married (not advisable in several countries such as the US)?"