Post: #51

It's good to give the benefit of the doubt in threads like these, after all the best work done here is helping men who come here frustrated and confused about women and life.

Saying that, it seems to me OP didn't come here to seek advice, he came here to make a point against game and/or seek validation for his unhealthy mindset. It wasn't quite clear from the first couple posts but now it is I think. Every response of his is a counterpoint, dismissing what is written, not acknowledging the fine points made by others. I don't see much of an honest attempt to understand or try a new way, seems like someone trying to make a point. He wants to be told his choices and despair and misunderstanding is correct, not fix it. That is mgtow.

He's possibly a mgtow playing a game here attempting to show game and manosphere tenants are worthless or "contradictory", or he's simply a dude with issues that no one here can help him correct because he just wants to keep playing the game of "..well my logic says" instead of trying something new that millions of men know works. He doesn't seem to want to work through it, and now he's adding snark on top of it.

A troll or a disingenuous man, either way a waste of time.

Post: #52

3-day suspension.

Low value game-denialist with trollish symptoms.

Post: #53

^^^ Damn, Tuthmosis be like:

Post: #54

How many lays do you have from cold approach?

Everything in your post is written third hand: "I hear this about women." How much actual experience do you have?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say not very much. Your post sounds like ego protection stemming from a scarcity mindset. "I'm not sure I can do this easily so I want a guarantee that my investment of time and effort will yield me something I like"

This is not a condemnation - I had the same mentality very recently. I think you've got some inner game issues work through.

The ultimate answer to your question is: either you find pussy motivating or you don't. You say you don't find the prospect worth the work.

Okay. Then why are you here? I suspect that deep down you do really want it, but you want some guarantee that your ego won't get hurt in the process.

Well here's the bad news- you have to let go of that ego. It WILL get hurt in the process. But you are not your ego. You can let go of seeing the process of learning as "debasing yourself" and simply see it as something you do in order to get what you want.

Full disclosure, I've only got one lay under my belt so far, so let that inform how you view my opinion. To that note though, I will say I subscribed to this mentality of "women aren't worth the effort" for a couple years, and I find I have more happiness in my life now that I'm striving for it without letting my results define my sense of self-worth.

I will get there (in fact I've got a standing net with a friend that I will get laid by the end of next month or I pay him $20), is just a matter of time, persistence, and finding out what works and what doesn't.

Post: #55

To OP - You are reading too much, and you're using it as an avoidance weasel. Go out and get girls.