Post: #1

Here in England, the free TV is not half bad. There are a lot more channels to browse through which is great since I have no intention of paying the TV tax and some version of cable.

However, one thing that i've noticed while channel surfing are the constant WW2 european theater documentaries. I probably see at least two documentaries a day with such titles as: "Britain on the road to victory" and my personal favorite "Hitler: History's Warning".

Back in the states, there would probably be maybe 1 documentary a week about some random theater in world war two placed between an ancient aliens documentary. I enjoy the history of the war and personally find the pacific theater and African theater to be under rated..

I've asked a few English folks this question and they all seem to get very uncomfortable. I always preface it with mentioning the multitude of other places battles took place. We get it, the war took place here. Why keep constantly reminding yourself of it?

This constant barrage of European WW2 documentaries kills me. Why is England so obsessed with playing the same content and theater day in and day out?

Post: #2

There were many different things going on and hey, we won. We also like to point out the US joined later and it was lill 'ol us fighting against Hitler

I like the documentaries and thankful for the generations who fought back and maintained this island but what they fought for is gone and they have been tossed aside by the baby boomers and younger generations.

A lot of old people who fought in the war or were affected by it like to be reminded of a better Britain, a united Britain where you could actually know half the people on your street and not need faecbook to know whats going on.

[insert immigrant rambling here]

Where are those old people now? Well they're currently in hospital most days, alone, in nursing homes, dead or dying.

Those documentaries are now a mere tool for historians to get funding for their work and live an easy life. Nobody has any connection with WW2 now and it shows and the Federalists in Europe are just doing what Nazi Germany wanted to do, except a few changes here and there.

Post: #3

The main reason is because it was the first war to be filmed.

So theres almost unlimited footage to churn out documentaries.

I love them.

Post: #4

(05-15-2016 04:30 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Here in England, the free TV is not half bad. There are a lot more channels to browse through which is great since I have no intention of paying the TV tax and some version of cable.

However, one thing that i've noticed while channel surfing are the constant WW2 european theater documentaries. I probably see at least two documentaries a day with such titles as: "Britain on the road to victory" and my personal favorite "Hitler: History's Warning".

Back in the states, there would probably be maybe 1 documentary a week about some random theater in world war two placed between an ancient aliens documentary. I enjoy the history of the war and personally find the pacific theater and African theater to be under rated..

I've asked a few English folks this question and they all seem to get very uncomfortable. I always preface it with mentioning the multitude of other places battles took place. We get it, the war took place here. Why keep constantly reminding yourself of it?

This constant barrage of European WW2 documentaries kills me. Why is England so obsessed with playing the same content and theater day in and day out?

The two parts in bold are the answer to your question.

One part is to make money, but the other part is for political reasons.

It's a way of creating and enforcing social control. Brainwashing.

Post: #5

*Show documentaries about half a million of your native countrymen dying in a world war to save their ancestral homelands from foreign invaders*

*bundle up and auction off your homeland to islamists, arabs, north africans, and south asians in the current day with nary a life spent defending it*

Post: #6

A cynic would say it's predictive programming in the run up to some conflict in the near future. Recall that there was a burst of high profile war movies/miniseries (Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, Enemy at the Gates, Pearl Harbor, etc) leading up to the middle eastern conflicts of the 2000s.

Speaking of WW2, I always found the "Why we fight" documentary to be highly ironic.
"What are we fighting for?"
'Freedom.'

Ah yes, the freedom to be enslaved into fighting and dieing in a war of which they have no say over (draft and selective service). The freedom to have their family wealth (gold) stolen at gunpoint. The freedom to have the fruits of their labor stolen (income taxes).

War is a Racket.

Post: #7

Quote:Back in the states, there would probably be maybe 1 documentary a week about some random theater in world war two placed between an ancient aliens documentary.

The History Channel used to be nicknamed "The Hitler Channel" as it played more of that stuff ten years ago.

Only more recently (5 years or so) did they get into more of the aliens and Freemasonry, etc.

They were buying a lot of these documentaries from UK companies for rebroadcast in the US.

As mentioned, there is a ton of archival WW2 footage available, so the cost of production can be kept low.

Post: #8

Probably the best UK WWII documentary is Dad's Army.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #9

Once in a while the History channel gets tired of Hitler and switches to shooting Japs for a show or two.

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Post: #11

Maybe it should remember the Brits on their last time of glory, like the World Cup 66. Kind of strange nostalgia.

Post: #12

"Hans... are we the baddies?"

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold

Post: #13

It stokes up passionate patriotic and nationalist sentiment about a victorious war where the threat of invasion was real....

....and because the enemy was nationalistic white men the narrative is reinforced by redirecting any of that nationalism away from becoming anti-immigration sentiment.

"You aren't against those poor refugees, are you? That smacks of Nazism, and it was a proud display of British values when we fought that evil and destroyed it. Our finest hour, indeed. The refugees are poor and helpless, welcome them. Now that Vladimir Putin, on the other hand, that's another Hitler we need to take care of...."

Post: #14

Stephen Ambrose Wrote:"The British had as many problems, if not more, in recovering from victory as the Germans did in recovering from defeat. The British … what did Britain get out of the war? Not very much … not very much. She lost a great deal. I suppose, if you want to look at it positively, she got a moral claim on the world, as the nation that had stood against Hitler alone for a year and had provided the moral leadership against the Nazis at a time when everyone else was willing to cave in to the Nazis."

Seen at 38m 30s

Post: #15

Two reasons why you'd think that the only history the UK has is the European theater of WW2:

1. It was the greatest Pyrrhic victory in history. No other nation has gone from running a global maritime empire to a basket case in such a short time.

This is why the 'plucky British underdog' which stood up against the European top dog story was invented. This hides the fact that Britain was the top dog not Germany and that it was thrown out of Europe with its tail between its legs. The UK had nothing to show for its victory after the empire was mortgaged to the Americans who later foreclosed it. There could have easily been a coup d'état in the UK owing to the swift decline of the country (Lord Mountbatten above was rumoured to have been planning one in the 1970s). Therefore the victory was marketed as a 'moral' one.

2. The WW2 narrative is very important in multicultural countries where it can be leveraged to explain how Hitler was fighting against multiculturalism ergo all the new, imported and invented victim groups which now live in the West. Nativists can therefore be compared with 'the Nazis'. WW2 can easily be used to support yet more world bombing by the US or UK and the huge migrant invasion of Europe.

Post: #16

1. It was the last hurrah of the British Empire. After WW2 we fell from 'global superpower' to 'fairly important but not the big player'. Rose-tinted glasses and nostalgia does the rest.
2. It was a victory to be proud of, one that defies logic: the logical decision in 1940-41 would have been to seek terms with Germany, but we didn't. We kept fighting and that's something to get behind
3. As stated before, the amount of footage allows all these documentaries to be made
4. Judged by modern standards, all colonialism and empire building is evil, and Britain did a lot of it. With full on rose tinted glasses on, in standing up to Hitler the British Empire sacrificed itself nobly and gained redemption.
5. Few wars thus fought in the last few hundred years have been so easily categorised as the 'goodies' against the 'baddies'. It's easy to get jingoistic and proud in fighting and beating history's most evil man.

Post: #17

I'd suggest you guys check out

Ken Burns: The War

World At War In Color

For starters.

World War 2 is one of my fascinations.

Post: #18

The WWII documentaries being pushed hard all lead inevitably to holocaust brainwashing which leads to "we must willingly accept all the migrants and welcome and embrace them, whatever". It's all a part of the liberal globalist agenda.

Hopefully the truth will come out soon.

Post: #19

(05-15-2016 05:04 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  The main reason is because it was the first war to be filmed.

So theres almost unlimited footage to churn out documentaries.

I love them.

WWI was also filmed. Much less attention is given to WWI (despite British and French casualties being far higher than WWII) because of the lack of a holocaust propaganda agenda.

Post: #20

Also, watching trench warfare is like watching people play poker when you don't know what their cards are. Boooring.

I imagine there's just a lot less public interest in WWI. In WWII there's the whole good vs evil thing; it seems a lot more black and white. What the fuck was WWI even about? Most people have no idea, and it's not like there were a lot of WWI veterans around to talk about what it was like in the last 30-40 years either.

Post: #21

But a LOT more people died in western europe in WWI! So it deserves to be remembered. I'm old enough to have a grandfather who served in WWI and one who served in WWII. Bothe WWI and WWII were horrible, brutal destructive wars. Nothing like the romantic fiction portrayed in the films.

The difference is the media can push their muslim migrant loving agenda with WWII by analogy to the Jewish holocaust. (i.e. if we don't accept unlimited amounts of Muslims into Europe, we are as bad as Hitler).

This agenda should be resisted by all possible means, even including challenging the Holocaust story.

Post: #22

I'm not saying it doesn't. I think WWI was both fascinating and horrific. The tactics were slow to adapt to the lethality of industrial warfare and it was the meat grinder of all meat grinders.

Many more people died at the Battle of Somme than in the entire American Civil War. More soldiers died on the first day of the Battle of Somme than the west has lost in the Middle East in the last century. Death on that scale is hard to grasp; it is awe inspiring in a terrible way.

But, most people don't care, and the TV stations aren't going to put out shows that the average idiot won't watch. That's all I'm saying.

Post: #23

There's not much footage from WW1, the documentaries that exist, are good.
I find WW1 much more fascinating than WW2, introduction of air, tanks, proliferation of repeating guns, and how tactics had to change due to all this new tech.

Post: #24

Here's one for ya: http://www.hellstormdocumentary.com/

Post: #25

(05-15-2016 10:54 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Stephen Ambrose Wrote:"The British had as many problems, if not more, in recovering from victory as the Germans did in recovering from defeat. The British … what did Britain get out of the war? Not very much … not very much. She lost a great deal. I suppose, if you want to look at it positively, she got a moral claim on the world, as the nation that had stood against Hitler alone for a year and had provided the moral leadership against the Nazis at a time when everyone else was willing to cave in to the Nazis."

Seen at 38m 30s

The World At War is one of the greatest TV documentary series of all time. It was made in the early 1970s so a lot of participants from WW2 were available for interview.