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Works that you consider to be genius
The other day Paracelsus and I had a discussion about whether George R R Martins' book A Song of Ice and Fire is a work of genius. He said no and I said yes. Someone also mentioned Harry Potter as genius.

What do you consider genius? Whether it is painting, music, literature or movies?

For me Animal Farm, A Song of Ice and Fire, Pulp Fiction are somewhere on my list.

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04-22-2016 02:50 PM
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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
Could it be about inventions? The bicycle is a brilliant invention, so simple and efficient.

Also the AK-47, and the helicopter are particular favourites.

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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
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Choose any number of his films

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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
Most of the classics. Especially The Divine Comedy.
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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
Any piece of art that has his own uniqueness and changed the way we perceived the world before its introduction

It can be philosophy,music, paintings,literature,etc
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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
(04-22-2016 03:09 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  [Image: kubrick.jpg]

Choose any number of his films

His early movies were pretty weak, but to have this string of movies in a row is pretty remarkable.

Eyes Wide Shut
1987 Full Metal Jacket
1980 The Shining
1975 Barry Lyndon
1971 A Clockwork Orange
1968 2001: A Space Odyssey
1964 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
1962 Lolita
1960 Spartacus
1957 Paths of Glory
1956 The Killing

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I think Leo Da Vinci was incredible. Everything he did from his inventions to anatomy drawings and obviously his paintings were mind blowing to me.

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(04-22-2016 06:05 PM)GillesDeleuze Wrote:  Any piece of art that has his own uniqueness and changed the way we perceived the world before its introduction

It can be philosophy,music, paintings,literature,etc

Agree with this as a benchmark. Below are some that come to my mind:

Music- Stairway to Heaven (mainstream, but genius)
Film- Life is Beautiful (making a comedy about the Nazi's and World War II was brilliant)
Literature- Camp of the Saints (for Jean Raspail's prophetic accuracy in 1973, and disturbingly seeing it come to fruition before our very eyes)
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I love Pulp Fiction but I wouldn't classify it as a work of genius… More an anthology of accumulated knowledge DJ'd into a masterpiece… On second thoughts maybe that classifies as genius but I'm not convinced.
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Mussorgsky - Night On Bald Mountain
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In mathematics: Cantor's theory of infinite sets and Godel's Incompleteness theorems. Both men had genuinely new ideas and saw much further than their contemporaries. In music: Bach's 24 fugues from WTC. He is peerless for his creative writing within highly constrained forms.
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The Sopranos.

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Anything from Shakespeare. Dark, disturbing, thought-provoking.
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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
The painting Forward Retreat by Mark Tansey.

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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
Most of the books mentioned in the "Famous books that you thought sucked..." thread are absolutely genius, and it breaks my heart to see them shit-talked.

Basically, the canon is genius. That's a pretty fail-safe guide.

Modernity, I guess it has to stand the test of time. I could go on and on about filmmakers. Fellini, Antonioni, Godard, Rohmer, Bresson, Melville, Bergman, Herzog, Tarkovsky, Bunuel, Mizoguchi, Ozu, Capra, Ford, Scorsese, Altman.

Top of the heap of the moderns is Bob Dylan. And in sports, Roger Federer. For economics and philosophy, Hoppe.

(I mean that, taken as a collective, their life works are genius)
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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
A side note - someone mentioned the movie "Lolita": do you think that book could have ever been released today?
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(04-23-2016 12:45 PM)johnbozzz Wrote:  A side note - someone mentioned the movie "Lolita": do you think that book could have ever been released today?

Yes, sure, but in today's version the little girl would be a trans boy.

Gay cakes and trans bathrooms: the most important human rights issues of our times, surely.
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(04-23-2016 02:08 PM)911 Wrote:  
(04-23-2016 12:45 PM)johnbozzz Wrote:  A side note - someone mentioned the movie "Lolita": do you think that book could have ever been released today?

Yes, sure, but in today's version the little girl would be a trans boy.

Ha. They'd likely be able to release the book if it was made into a graphic novel, and sold in some kind of niche bookstore.
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(04-22-2016 03:06 PM)britchard Wrote:  Could it be about inventions? The bicycle is a brilliant invention, so simple and efficient.

Also the AK-47, and the helicopter are particular favourites.

The Kalash took some inspiration from the ground-breaking German machine-gun, Sturmgewehr 44. Both were brilliant engineering inventions.

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RE: Works that you consider to be genius
Of Human Bondage - Maugham
Whatever - Houellebecq
A Picture of Dorian Gray - Wilde
Confederacy of Dunces - Toole
Augie March - Bellow
Anna Karenina - Tolstoy
Brave New World - Huxley

Good call by Durango with Camp of the Saints.

Oddest of the bunch is a book called Red or Dead by David Peace... The book is written in a repetitive, "just the facts"-style. It lists attendances and line-ups for every single game that Bill Shankly managed at Liverpool. A cynic would say that the author went nuts with the "copy and paste" function on Word, or that it was written by an rudimentary computer program...

^ I know that's not the best advertisement, but I've never seen anything like it. Genius. I couldn't put it down.
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The Bible. It has stood the test of time.

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(04-23-2016 06:04 PM)Baldwin81 Wrote:  Of Human Bondage - Maugham
Whatever - Houellebecq
A Picture of Dorian Gray - Wilde
Confederacy of Dunces - Toole
Augie March - Bellow
Anna Karenina - Tolstoy
Brave New World - Huxley

Good call by Durango with Camp of the Saints.

Oddest of the bunch is a book called Red or Dead by David Peace... The book is written in a repetitive, "just the facts"-style. It lists attendances and line-ups for every single game that Bill Shankly managed at Liverpool. A cynic would say that the author went nuts with the "copy and paste" function on Word, or that it was written by an rudimentary computer program...

^ I know that's not the best advertisement, but I've never seen anything like it. Genius. I couldn't put it down.
What did you think of Houellebecq's "Elementary Particles," if you've read it?
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^ ANOTHER question by johnbozzz!!

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