Post: #51

Some wonder why the guy keeps buying her gifts and sponsoring her even though he's aware she's pimped out.
Simple matter! He might have crushed her. A friend of mine had gotten into a similar situation.
While hanging out in St.Pete we got into a locally famed Zavistbar where he hooked up with a stripper, a stunning beauty no shit. He kept going there over and over during the whole time in the city giving her presents and extra money basically for no big deal, a lap and so on. Alas, thats what infatuation does to a regular guy.

Post: #52

Takes a certain type of personality to be OK with strippers & sex workers in general...Also there are levels to this...

Once had a long chat with my pornstar friend & her domintrix friend. Changed how I used to manage my sex life.

Also being in proximity they become humanized. They still have female drive which many times is being surpressed.

However the social engineering beats out many non-workers due to experience cumulateed. The ones who are good are great at teasing and leading an experience in a fun manner.

This isn't the majority though, you can tell almost instantly when you stumbled upon an experienced gal.

The doom & gloom is a misconception or hanging amongst the wrong girls. Some get an ego boost, others logically understand it's money/survival, others are just addicted to sex.

I've come across a few who were witty as fuck, entertaining just hanging with them. Other times they instigate certain sexual experiences that makes you understand how much men lack the comfy aspects of sexuality.

Men in general are by far the most uptight of all when it comes to sexuality. Life is wayyy better when you don't have a serious outlook towards sex.

All that said...No matter how SOLID these girls might feel, deep down their female wiring is screaming for change as feeling truly empower within her female faculties isn't congruent with their lifestyle. This is where alot of the so called internal issues come up.

I've seen my female friend complain how subpar her sex life has been in the past decade or so. She rationalizes that she is just TOO WEIRD to ever be satisfied and how despite her image she has not had a good sex life since her 20s. (Despite STILL hordes of guys thirst for her)

If I were to ever be a pimp, she'd be credited to opening my eyes to possibilities. These women aren't in the spotlight & super low key YET racking in $100k-$200k which isn't much BUT the flexibility & peace of mind is there as they're not flashy. Gives em the freedom to do whatever they truly want to do in life.

When we talked about those realms and they broke it down to me...It was 100% objective and the intention was to make money while enjoying sexuality.

The stories of the past shows they're desensitized which IMO is ideal as people make sexuality this BIG DEAL.

It's to the point where on average I think only gays are truly able to live a 100% hedonistic life. They say the average partners a person has in a lifetime is 4-12...

If we strip away the cultural & religious roadblocks, I just can't comprehend that. Look beyond the civilized society and you have literally FUCKING ANIMALS.

Research sex and the olympics, how many free condoms are distributed. Look at sex related news...

Society denies the rawness of human sexuality. The shit has been driving us since we were humans.

I'll just stop here though as I'm getting way off topic.

P.S...On a whole your average local stripper is meh. Drama, dull life & potentially self-centered as she's the "it girl" of her town. A chick will see another making money with her new fake ass...Then go get one herself. Like anyone in general you can always find some good and take those lessons, just so happens on average these women can provide lessons in terms of sexuality & an easy going sex life. Men like to blockout & judge missing out on seeing a more unconventional lens.

P.S.S...Like all things there is a darkside which should be avoided. However, use as the explorer should be aware enough to disregard the BS. The similarity in different realm would be tiger woods a few years back & high end scene, where most of these chicks aren't even getting paid. Some civilized world we live in ha!

Post: #53

(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)JacksonRev Wrote:  Most of their money is made from a few customers, and the guys that blow massive amounts on a stripper really just want a little female contact and someone to talk to, and for whatever reason won't make the jump to hookers.

That's interesting and something I never understood... Many guys will blow thousands on strippers and not even get to have sex. Why not just pay a hooker and cut to the chase...?

Post: #54

^They feel more of a connection with the stripper, who will spend time with them talking and getting to know them.

With a hooker, there is no time to build rapport. The interaction is more transactional and the client has to leave as soon as he busts.

I know an Asian guy that spends too much money in strip joints, he likes being the centre of attention. Of course this comes at a price and the girls milk him for the attention.

Post: #55

(08-22-2017 12:31 PM)Darkwing Buck Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 04:35 PM)JacksonRev Wrote:  Most of their money is made from a few customers, and the guys that blow massive amounts on a stripper really just want a little female contact and someone to talk to, and for whatever reason won't make the jump to hookers.

That's interesting and something I never understood... Many guys will blow thousands on strippers and not even get to have sex. Why not just pay a hooker and cut to the chase...?

There are some guys who pay hookers and do not have sex, they just want to talk.

Post: #56

(08-22-2017 10:02 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  Takes a certain type of personality to be OK with strippers & sex workers in general...Also there are levels to this...

(SNIP)

If we strip away the cultural & religious roadblocks, I just can't comprehend that. Look beyond the civilized society and you have literally FUCKING ANIMALS.

First, I want to say that for a man to pay for sex is not a good thing. This is part of my inner core value set and it would be hard to alter it.

There are those who are whole, and those who have an item (or many items) they lack to be whole; a scar in the mind, so to speak.

Sadly, many in this world are hurt in this way. How many of us can claim to be truly whole?

Yet most of us here, I hope, make up our minds to be the best men we can be. We study, chat, and put in the hours in the field. Piece by piece, we grow more whole.

Sluts and johns are a part of this not-whole group, but they seek to be whole by being with other men and women like them, as if they think this will fix them.

Money and sex pass from hand to hand, the deed is done, but both sides still do not feel whole. The human to human link is cut down into a trade deal.

Maybe some can be saved, but like hard drugs many reach the point of no return. The slut fucks for cash at 23, 24, 25... maybe even 30. Then her johns will not call her again. No one wants old goods. The johns she does fuck are not "good" men, but dregs, even if they can pay her - the sick, the fat, the crass and low-class-but-new-rich.

The john will pay for fucks as long as he still has money. Stare into the bored eyes of a used up slut as he pumps away. Maybe if he pays more she can act more alive. But it will still be an act. Every link to every woman he meets will be a fake.

Even lions in the wild can fuck for real. It takes a "civil" world to make a beast this fake.

Post: #57

I honestly don't get why strippers are seen as some kind of holy grail of game.

It's common knowledge that most of them of are fucked up, damaged girls with drug problems.

Yea maybe they're relatively hard to pick up vs a random coffee shop chick, but who cares?

Going on that logic should you then book a one way ticket to Saudi Arabia or North Korea and challenge your pickup chops there, because that would be a REAL test of your game?

Plus if you don't get your head chopped off or wind up in room 101, your efforts would probably be rewarded with a much higher quality woman than whatever strip club ho you're patting yourself on the back for picking up.

I'm not hating, I fucked a stripper once. Wasn't impressed then, and still don't see the appeal.

Whores who gobble dicks are a dime a dozen. How about a data sheet on finding a sweet, feminine, nurturing girlfriend who has brains, standards and some semblance of dignity and loyalty?

Apples and oranges, I know.

Post: #58

@Williamdoor I agree P4P isn't a profitable path mainly meant being around sex workers in terms of learning experiences & the undercurrent of society. (Not actually bangingnany of them, although nothing stops you from doing so)

Everything else comes down to interpretation...

Thing is MEN aren't built to have ONE girl. That's a society made constraint to make the world civil as 1 bucket of men would get weeded out rather quickly.

It's so embedded into society that even my dumbass has dealt with it for 2.5 years. Nonetheless, P4P is deemed the only outlet for those guys to fufill their genetic urges till it dies down with lower risks of them being outted.

Whoring has been one of the oldest vices...

On a consciousness level though I agree "whole" is elusive and is subjectively individual. I know most men would say MY RELATIONSHIP is the ideal. However, I've come to realize this is one realm that was "if it aint broken don't fix it"...

No reason I shoulda ended up in a relationship when I knew I have no affinity for it, now stuck in a dramatic and morally testing situation.

I was whole prior when I was free to just explore life. Socially & Sexually I no longer had to worry, I could just live stress free. Now I play a role and fufill obligations.

All humans in their own way try to reconnect with that whole. The mistake is thinking we can find it in other. Modern society havwn't grown domestically enough to create a win/win for both female gentics & male.

Their are outliers who I've found BUT also extreme outliers (like myself) are at disadvantage of needing to live rather unconventional just to survive as adapting isn't much of a possibility.

Strippers are just the new trend "it girls". IMO sex workers of all types are glamoured up versions of ok to attractive women. The know how to flaunt sex appeal as opposed to the hotter girl next door who lacks any projection of sexuality.

Sex workers are aware of the "undercurrents"...

The truths are all around us. Look at the avg IG girl followers compared to people who do some form of non-sexual art, wisdom, research or movement that could potentially inspire & change lives. Instead guys want to just look at an ass shake or some tits.

Then go outside and look how civilized the world SEEMS...
- People look & look away when they're noticed looking at someone
- People acting civilized no form of sexuality being display for the most part
- No one approaches people who peak there interest whether sexually or non-sexually
- People avoid as much attention or potential positions to be judged as possible (dont want to slip infront of all these people)

Yet check DM boxes of these people, the level of thirst and scheming going on online. Society is deluded in that sense only an act/facade.

P.S...Strippers & sex workers are of little interest sexually in my eyes. I enjoy them more as friends than having sexual experiences.

Post: #59

I have been feeling like a stripper magnet the last year. I'm headlong into my 4th stripper now. Colombiana (27yo), followed by Venezueliana (23), Brasiliana from Nitro (lots of Rio condescension from this 33yo), and now an Argentine (36-37yo) two met at the club and two at the after bar where the second one started bringing me. It's fun but nothing more. I'd never consider them longterm material.

One thing I've realised is that they are best used as arm candy in daylight. It's hard to beat the looks from other chicks when they see a sexual, young creature wanting to be seen with a 40yo guy. Does he have money? Does he wanna marry us even though we're so fucked up? Plowing is for nighttime with these girls. Beautiful snow is best seen during the day by other potential bangs. And seen by many.

My current MO is to bring her for a first drink to the after bar around 8 o'clock. There are always a few from the day stripper shift still hanging out getting food and seeing what normal guys they can meet before heading back to their shitty apartment or screaming kids. I present myself as being that guy. Nice suit jacket, shoes and watch does the trick. And fnally, order a drink from Europe that they don't know it works wonders.

Post: #60

(08-24-2017 02:38 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  I honestly don't get why strippers are seen as some kind of holy grail of game.

It's common knowledge that most of them of are fucked up, damaged girls with drug problems.

Yea maybe they're relatively hard to pick up vs a random coffee shop chick, but who cares?

Going on that logic should you then book a one way ticket to Saudi Arabia or North Korea and challenge your pickup chops there, because that would be a REAL test of your game?

Plus if you don't get your head chopped off or wind up in room 101, your efforts would probably be rewarded with a much higher quality woman than whatever strip club ho you're patting yourself on the back for picking up.

I'm not hating, I fucked a stripper once. Wasn't impressed then, and still don't see the appeal.

Whores who gobble dicks are a dime a dozen. How about a data sheet on finding a sweet, feminine, nurturing girlfriend who has brains, standards and some semblance of dignity and loyalty?

Apples and oranges, I know.

Because strippers are the all-in-one package of sexual decadence. They are the hallmark of a good time. These women are pre-selected, typically in the top 20% of looks, are sexually and morally unhinged, stay up late and party, and have access to other women who are exactly like them. They make great bed mates, arm candy, and party pals. Sort of a no-brainer.

Not all men are looking for "Mrs. Right"