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^ Add in the unfunded liabilities (ridiculously generous pensions etc) of every first world nation and factor in negative population (ie: tax base) growth.

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(10-06-2016 07:59 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Great article illustrating the total absurdity and hopelessness of our fractional reserve central banking system:

RT Wrote:IMF: Global debt rises to all-time high $152tn

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has raised concerns over ballooning global debt that has reached 225 percent of the world’s gross domestic product (GDP), which could lead to financial crises.
“At 225 percent of world GDP, the global debt …is currently at an all-time high. Two-thirds, amounting to about $100 trillion, consists of liabilities of the private sector which can carry great risks when they reach excessive levels,” the IMF said.

In 2002, global debt stood at 200 percent of the global GDP.

https://www.rt.com/business/361769-globa...cord-high/

Who does the world owe that much money to? Aliens? Who had more money to lend out than the entire world is worth anyway? Jesus.

It's all a huge ponzi. Each nation owes each other the money and guarantee each other's debt. That's why (((they))) cannot let any of the individual countries default, because it leave other countries holding the bag unable to repay the added debt load of someone else defaulting.

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I'm starting to think the only way to save (rebuild) western civilization is for Hillary to win, followed soon by a nuclear volley with Russia.

Even if Trump wins, the core tenants of leftism aren't going anywhere. Women + nonwhites + brainwashed white males will just push heavy for the next globalist running. Birthrates and legal immigration alone will ensure a permanent march left.

If Hillary wins, we will likely have a radioactive purge within 12 months, the liberal cities would get wiped out. I bet tons of Mexicans would head back south if much of the US became radioactively contaminated.

I actually think the aforementioned scenario is highly probably in nature's course of things, except I think Trump will indeed win and avoid this altogether, although US loses in the long term.

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(10-11-2016 06:29 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  I'm starting to think the only way to save (rebuild) western civilization is for Hillary to win, followed soon by a nuclear volley with Russia.

Even if Trump wins, the core tenants of leftism aren't going anywhere. Women + nonwhites + brainwashed white males will just push heavy for the next globalist running. Birthrates and legal immigration alone will ensure a permanent march left.

If Hillary wins, we will likely have a radioactive purge within 12 months, the liberal cities would get wiped out. I bet tons of Mexicans would head back south if much of the US became radioactively contaminated.

I actually think the aforementioned scenario is highly probably in nature's course of things, except I think Trump will indeed win and avoid this altogether, although US loses in the long term.

If you are talking about rebuilding culturally and socially, I hope it doesn't take a nuclear war to do so. However, it very well might. I think it boils down to economics. Women attend college and graduate school at higher rates than men. In Urban areas, women under 30 earn higher wages than men. These trends will only continue. We all understand that the reported discrepancy between salaries of men and women is bogus. In the West, women no longer need men financially or for physical protection. Through the ages, this is where men earned their respect from women and society in general. Times have changed. The only time you hear the word "masculinity" outside of a community like this, is when it is being used mock a man. So in your scenario, this would wipe the slate clean if we were forced to "start over".

Trump is more of a wildcard with regard to war and nuclear proliferation. He is in favor of nuclear arming countries who do not yet have nuclear weapons. Hillary has her share of "intervention" in the world, supporting the Iraq war and going into Libya. Since World War II, foreign policy hasn't changed much between the two political parties. As an example, Democrats and Republicans support aide for Israel, most recently approving 38 Billion over the next ten years.

There are differences in domestic policies between the two parties. However, domestic initiatives are usually neutralized by Congress. Trump has been a wildcard, but historically there is very little difference between the parties with regard to foreign policy.

By the way, you have a great Forum handle.

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Video from 2012, Judge Napolitanos show was cancelled right after this on Fox Biz.
Four years ago I would have thought this was crazy talk. Now I see the Judge as a visionary!

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MEMA

Make Elections Matter Again.

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(10-11-2016 06:29 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  I'm starting to think the only way to save (rebuild) western civilization is for Hillary to win, followed soon by a nuclear volley with Russia.

Even if Trump wins, the core tenants of leftism aren't going anywhere. Women + nonwhites + brainwashed white males will just push heavy for the next globalist running. Birthrates and legal immigration alone will ensure a permanent march left.

If Hillary wins, we will likely have a radioactive purge within 12 months, the liberal cities would get wiped out. I bet tons of Mexicans would head back south if much of the US became radioactively contaminated.

I actually think the aforementioned scenario is highly probably in nature's course of things, except I think Trump will indeed win and avoid this altogether, although US loses in the long term.

I'm not sure you really fathom what a nuclear exchange, even a limited one, would do.

You think birth rates are bad now? Try knocking up a chick when after a few nukes have dropped and a few nuclear power stations have gone critical in the aftermath. Hope you've got lead-lined underwear.

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Great quote that sums things up nicely:

Quote:The Saudis and Russians made a big discovery after the fall of the Soviet Union: that you couldn't beat the United States the country, but you could corrupt American politicians for what amounted, in their world, to chump change. You could spent a billion dollars on some useless piece of Soviet military junk, or you could spend on a junket. The junket was more effective.

Once they had blazed the trail, the Chinese followed. This system of international "cooperation" was called the "Rule Based International Order". The Saudis and Russians killed the nuclear power future to prop up oil prices. This was called "Environmentalism". Then the Wahabi lobby decided to invade the West. This was called "Multiculturalism".

It rattled along swimmingly until the wheels fell off the wagon and the curtain went up with everyone's britches down. This was called "2016".

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Man, the one message that stuck with me from Roosh's last book was the Elite's plan of depopulation. It makes so much sense now that Roosh outlined it. Saw in the news this week, Warren Buffett has donated 1.3 BILLION dollars to Abortion groups over the last decade, it is simply incredible to watch how these people are out to destroy our society.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/buffet...on-in-2015

Quote:According to an article last year by Bloomberg, the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation has paid for a “birth control revolution” in recent years by pouring millions into research, testing, and promotion of safer intrauterine devices.

Former foundation director Judith DeSarno explained the billionaire’s motivation to the business magazine: “For Warren, it’s economic. He thinks that unless women can control their fertility — and that it’s basically their right to control their fertility — that you are sort of wasting more than half of the brainpower in the United States.”

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Just a random thought.

Could people on this board and elsewhere stomach Trump not changing the path we're on?

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(10-15-2016 07:45 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Just a random thought.

Could people on this board and elsewhere stomach Trump not changing the path we're on?

Who knows if he will change much, it will be tough sledding through the GOPe and the SJW Dems in terms of implementing all of his policies.

But what we need to be optimistic about is how he has awoken the beast. How many people have had their eyes open in the last year? I know I am a different person with a totally changed outlook on society now, in combination with Brexit, Radical Islam, The Establishment, etc.

Even if he can't change much, many people now are WOKE as FUCK, and the tide is starting to flood in the other direction!

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Trump faces an uphill battle, but he will fight for our side. I expect him to cut the best deals he can, with foreign nations, giant corporations, and the Dems. Some of those deals might look ugly to us, but he'll view them as furthering his goals towards MAGA.

I don't think he'll actually usher in the Trumpenreich, or restore patriarchy to its rightful place in society.

I think he will do more good from our point of view than we could have ever expected looking forward from early 2015.

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Can the US hold together through the divide a Trump/Hillary victory would cause? The past year has been an eye opener about how easy it is to burn through towns and cities.

Not to say trump supporters are anything like the degenerate BLM rioters but would a Hillary win evoke an even bigger wound onto those who supported Trump?

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Let's not pretend that a Trump victory is going to banish all evil like the cleansing light of God himself.

There's over 50 years of marxist rot that have infested the west along with all the degenerate critters scuttling throughout that rot.

My best hope is that Trump, win or lose, has ignited the fighting spirit of the Right. Truth be told a Hillary presidency could be the villain the Right needs to usher in full scale rebellion. If Trump wins then patriotic Americans would be left to place their faith in the system and let Trump do his work. If he failed then the forces of freedom would lose four to eight years sitting on their hands.

Truly the near future is just impossible to predict. The best time to start stockpiling food, medicine and ammunition was yesterday.

“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

I am reminded of this almost every day now.

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Post-election, what should we do to keep the movement going? Trump win OR lose.

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Keep gnawing at the rotten structures.

Keep triggering.

Be one of the thousand voices in the chorus, but never loud enough to make you a target specifically.

Bleed the beast. Usher in its full insanity. Show its true colours then stoke the fires of rebellion.

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(10-16-2016 09:58 AM)redbeard Wrote:  Post-election, what should we do to keep the movement going? Trump win OR lose.

Keep your eyes peeled. I don't think it's going to be a problem keeping the movement going. I think it's going to be a problem keeping it constructive, healthy, and without subversives.

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My maternal grandfather who brought my Scots-Irish Protestant family from the working class to the upper middle class after learning construction when building the Empire State Building faithfully listened to the Late Alistair Cooke's "Letter from America" on the radio each week.

Even after decades, I still mourn the demise of my grandfather but I carry on his legacy with my respect of Alistair Cooke.

Take heed Americans, this prophecy could be to the US as Jeremiah's were to Judah.





Cooke on America

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(10-16-2016 08:45 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Let's not pretend that a Trump victory is going to banish all evil like the cleansing light of God himself.

There's over 50 years of marxist rot that have infested the west along with all the degenerate critters scuttling throughout that rot.

My best hope is that Trump, win or lose, has ignited the fighting spirit of the Right. Truth be told a Hillary presidency could be the villain the Right needs to usher in full scale rebellion. If Trump wins then patriotic Americans would be left to place their faith in the system and let Trump do his work. If he failed then the forces of freedom would lose four to eight years sitting on their hands.

Truly the near future is just impossible to predict. The best time to start stockpiling food, medicine and ammunition was yesterday.

“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

I am reminded of this almost every day now.

I'm not naive enough to believe such a thing could happen, we're not in the age where everyone who was favoured by the former leader is snuffed out or transferred to far away lands.

If you have been following Brexit (its pretty boring), the pound is being hit and our traitorous MPs are demanding a say. It was put down by the prime minister luckily for now. This whole thing won't be enacted till March 2019....

We voted in June this year and they want to wait till then.

If they put this much effort into the status quo for a non-entity such as the Uk I want to know how they'd react to a Trump Presidency.

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I think someone brought this up on the forum recently, but it is so staggering that it bears repeating here. I was absolutely flabbergasted to learn that many US government agencies that have nothing to do with law enforcement or conflict of any kind now have their own armed agents and SWAT teams with full equipment. The list includes:

- Department of Education
- Department of Agriculture
- Railroad Retirement Board
- Bureau of Land Management
- Tennessee Valley Authority
- Office of Personnel Management
- U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service

DAFUQ? Why would Railroad Retirement Board require a SWAT team? Some retired engineman writing bad checks or what?



Imagine an armed raid on your house with submachine guns and armored transports over the fact that you fished in a creek without a license or that your child was studying from an unapproved textbook. A precedent for that seems to be closer every day.

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^ This is a cover to stick state sponsored murderers on the payroll without having to alarm people by putting them all in the same basket.

10,000 black-baggers in a single outfit would justifiably freak people out, so they spread them and their funding around to different agencies waiting for whatever it is they're waiting for.

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Quote:I'm starting to think the only way to save (rebuild) western civilization is for Hillary to win, followed soon by a nuclear volley with Russia.

Um yeah no thanks.

The great thing thats now happening though is people are now, to some degree, equating Hillary with nuclear war and Trump with peace. A reversal on the previous perception (see articles like: '9 terrifying things Donald Trump has publicly said about nuclear weapons').

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So I'm just a newb in all this, but should there be veritable reasons to be alarmed at what seems a constant provocation of Russia by certain western factions to enter armed conflict or is it just more noise and business as usual going on in the world of us expendable mortals?

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(10-17-2016 12:33 PM)El_Gostro Wrote:  So I'm just a newb in all this, but should there be veritable reasons to be alarmed at what seems a constant provocation of Russia by certain western factions to enter armed conflict or is it just more noise and business as usual going on in the world of us expendable mortals?

Imagine if Iran went in dry on the Saudis for hurting both Syria and Yemen. The Saudis are having one hell of a rough ride fighting these Houthis and the US is doing its best to lie low and help out.

Now what would happen if Iran made it an open war between themselves and the Saudi's? What then?

If the US wades in we can guarantee a Russian intervention on behalf of Iran. If the US wants to stop Iran tearing the Saudi's apart they would have to commit to destroying Iranian installations, ships and vehicles.

Again, would Russia tolerate such an act considering the last 10 years of US/NATO aggression?

This is why the current administration should be removed ASAP. They have nothing left in the political tank and NATO will do nothing without US approval.

Hillary is more of the same so guaranteed something big will happen. Trump is a fresh face and a new guy on the block. He will ask for a climbdown and negotiation.

The Russians will listen to him.

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The nationalist momentum continues, this time Brazil's leftist party got decimated in weekend elections.

Im not too keen on SA politics other than they are mostly left wing and corrupt to the core.

Forbes: Brazil's leftists absolutely clobbered in elections

Quote:It was a terrible weekend for Brazil’s left wing political parties.

The once ruling Workers’ Party was utterly clobbered on Sunday’s second round voting in state mayoral elections. In Rio de Janeiro, the party known as PSOL was beat up so badly that the lead candidate Marcelo Freixo, who had marijuana legalization as a key platform, garnered less votes than the 1.3 million of voters who chose neither candidate. Marginally popular evangelical leader Marcelo Crivella won with 1.7 million votes, followed by the second place finisher — a vote for no one. Anti-privatization, Rio celebrity fave Freixo came in last of the three.

Meanwhile, the Workers’ Party lost in all seven mayoral bids on Sunday.

The municipal elections stand as a testament to the public’s resounding no-confidence vote in the Workers’ Party and its former allies. While PSOL is a tiny left wing party that splintered off from the Workers’ Party run by Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, former ally the Democratic Movement, or PMDB, also lost their bid for mayor in one of Brazil’s left wing strong holds, Porto Alegre. The city is the capital of Rio Grande do Sul, home of Brazilian supermodel Gisele Bundchen. The city’s mayor is now from rival Social Democrats, a pro-business, pro-privatization party that governed Brazil for 8 years and ultimately drove it into the arms of the International Monetary Fund.

Those moves back in the late 1990s led to 14 years of Workers’ Party rule. But year after year of party-related scandals, including those while Lula was overseeing an economic bonanza, has turned the party into a laughing stock.

This year’s impeachment and indictment of Lula successor Dilma Rousseff was the last straw. Lula’s party was completely ousted from Brazilian cities on Sunday.

Dilma was indicted by the Senate in August for cooking the books on government accounts. But a look under the hood in the Brazilian capital shows that the real reason had more to do with the massive Petrobras scandal. Brazil’s flagship enterprise was used as a piggy bank for the party. Contractors were paying bribes to get lucrative government contracts. Money was siphoned off into Swiss bank accounts, real estate, and into re-election campaigns. The schemes made the party, supported primarily by union workers and the working poor, one of the most powerful and wealthiest political machines in Latin America in less than a decade.

That level of corruption brought Petrobras down, led to the canceling or to work stoppage on many government contracts with companies tied to the scandal. Tens of thousands were laid off as a result. Brazilian unemployment is close to 12%. The economy will contract 3% this year at least, and be lucky to grow 0.5% next year.

The Petrobras scandal has led to dozens of arrests. Lula has been accused of receiving bribes and gifts in the form of real estate. He maintains his innocence and until now the federal criminal court in Curitiba, the city court in charge of ruling on white collar crimes of private citizens, has not made any judgement in his case. The fact that he is under investigation likely takes Lula out of the running for a 2018 presidential bid, something he said he was actually considering even as his party was imploding.

According to recent polls, Lula’s rejection level is just over 50% due to the corruption scandals.

Sunday’s election results will have no significant market impact. The country is clearly moving away from the ‘Lulismo’ of the past 14 years. And despite some heavy support among Rio de Janeiro’s A-list, Freixo fell hard to a wealthy, conservative evangelic that has also been part of the Petrobras graft scheme investigations. It may have been a case of the lesser of two evils in Rio. On the national front, however, the voters opted to kick to the curb the party that ransacked Petrobras, and the economy.

Dilma and Lula reportedly did not vote this weekend. Sounds almost like a vote of no confidence in themselves.

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